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Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Basically, this movie (coming to theatres) will address every item raised by Fahrenheit 911, issue-by-issue.



Here are some links, but ~WARNING~ some of the images and videos in these links might be disturbing to some:

Primary site:
http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

Secondary site:
http://65.36.166.137/

32 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

This is the dumbest idea I have seen yet. What a pathetic attempt to try and get back at Micheal Moore for creating Fahrenheit 9/11. Now we are turning the movie business into a political battle, great.  Insane

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

You can distort propaganda in either direction.

Both movies have their own agendas, and both are nothing more than propaganda.

Now, if you want to see a really good propaganda film, check out

Triumph des Willens

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025913/

I do believe however, that Moore's film is closer to the truth, what I see in 41.11 is just more fear mongering from the right.

[Edited 2004-09-28 22:54:31]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

try and get back at Micheal Moore for creating Fahrenheit 9/11. Now we are turning the movie business into a political battle, great.


No shock there... he left himself WIDE (no pun intended) open for this sorta thing to happen.

I would've been surprised had it NOT occurred.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

Directed By
KEVIN KNOBLOCK


I had that once, hurt like hell.

Signed,
Falcon84


User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

Sounds great! I just ordered one.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Moore's film is closer to the truth

...you've gotta be kidding us with this, huh?!  Wow!


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

...You've gotta be kidding us with this, huh?!

Its just simple logic CB, when people spread the truth, the typical response is people running to cover themselves as quick as they can. That's exactly what they are doing. Not saying Moore's film is entirely based on facts, but its obvious that is whats happening here.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

As a foreigner watching the US American election, I wonder if I should laugh or cry.

But I sure hope I will never witness something similar hateful, cynical and word-twisting at home.



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

NoUFO, I feel the same way about Germany.  Smile

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

NoUFO, I feel the same way about Germany.

What about German elections really get to you?


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Its just simple logic CB, when people spread the truth

Alas, more didn't do that by a longshot, so how could that theory possibly apply here?


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8761 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Fahrenheit 9/11 and Celsius 41.11 have to be a movie version of the classic a.net Bush vs Kerry flame war: Both sides have legitimate arguments, some extremists on both sides twist them to fit their agendas, and in the end they post line after line "disproving" what the other guy just said. Brilliant.  Insane

I'm gonna get drunk once this fucked-up campaign is over, no matter who wins the election. Too much bullshit to take, and the saddest thing is it's about the future most powerful man of the world.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

Bushcheney2004: Sounds great! I just ordered one.

Ben, are you telling me that it was ConcordeBoy's post which told you about this "masterpiece"? You don't have a copy already? It's the "most anticipated and talked about DVD this election season" and if it wasn't for a.net - a web from euroliberal Sweden - you wouldn't know about it?
Dude, it's still 35 days to go till the election - not a good time to slack on your fanaticism now. Please consider this to be a fair and friendly although serious warning. Otherwise I shall report you to Dubya himself and initiate removal of your nick, since you're clearly not living up to its standards.


[Edited 2004-09-29 00:22:54]

User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

NoUFO ... dah ... the USA is a dunce when elections are concerned ... look in the Balkans if you're looking for "fun" ....

In mid 90s Slobodan Milosevic (the same SM currently imprisoned in Hague) won the presidential elections in several communities with more than 100% (record community had him get around 110% of all votes and the opposite candidate getting 0 votes). Go figure.

But to be honest we have our own share of stupid politicians... Take one J.P., the former president of the Slovenian Parliament. He entered a disputed area on the border between Slovenia and Croatia (both countries claim the 2x2 mile area ... - and it's arid land ... the problem is that it's connected to a nice little bay  Big grin) and when leaving wouldn't showing the Croat border post his ID ... got boxed in the stomach and dragged to a Croat courthouse ... stupidity on his part. Elections or no elections. Stupid politician. :>

D.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Bushcheney2004,
We can talk about that in 2006.

Damirc,
Words fail me.  Wow!



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineNW747400 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Looks great, can't wait to see it!
NW747400


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out.

KERRY 04



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17821 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1282 times:

"We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out.
"
KERRY VOTED FOR THE WAR!!!!!



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1275 times:

He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's.

Now that we know there aren't, the smart people (including Kerry) want us out!



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17821 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1266 times:

"He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's."

He STILL would have voted for the war if he knew then what he knows now. How do you like them apples?

[Edited 2004-09-29 05:34:11]


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1259 times:

He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's.

Bush told people there were WMDs based on the intelligence he received.

Think about why Bush made the decision to go to war......it was because everybody was telling him that Iraq was surely a threat and had WMDs...........which is probably why Kerry voted for the war as well -- because 3 major intelligence agencies, including our own, 100% believed Iraq to be a threat with WMDs.

It's funny how you blame Bush for acting on bad intelligence, but defend Kerry's decision which was made for pretty much the same reason and basis as Bush's decision was made.

Typical hypocritical liberal crap.



-NWA742

[Edited 2004-09-29 05:47:24]

User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Everyone told Bush that America was going to be attacked too. But he went on vacation. Face it Bush invaded Iraq for their oil. Now this DVD is going to scar you into voting for Bush. I'm more scared of Bush than the terrorists !!! Defend America Defeat Bush !!!


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

"We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out."

Not that he will get the chance, but I would agree, he probably would retreat... It must be in his genes.


User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Not that he will get the chance, but I would agree, he probably would retreat... It must be in his genes.

I would rather pull the fine soldiers out than to watch many of them die every single day for nothing.
They have removed Saddam now. That was their goal. But that created a mess that they will never be able to fix. So the only thing they can do is to retreat and look at the only bright side hey got from this: They got Saddam.


[Edited 2004-09-29 08:54:49]

25 Santosdumont : This new film will be the furthest thing from an objective rebuttal to Michael Moore. Some of the older folks here will recognize Citizens United as t
26 ConcordeBoy : We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out. About the only way he could do that... would be to do exactly what he's saying he'll do: pande
27 Damirc : MaverickM11: He STILL would have voted for the war if he knew then what he knows now. How do you like them apples? How can you be so sure of that? I'd
28 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : How can you be so sure of that? Um, because John Kerry himself SAID IT, perhaps? ...of course, before flipflopping with Diane, and saying he wouldn't
29 MaverickM11 : "...of course, before flipflopping with Diane, and saying he wouldn't have if he'd have known what we know now (ya know, by employing the Federal Psyc
30 ConcordeBoy : Though, ya gotta admit.... saying that he wouldnt have gone to war knowing the outcome, has to have Kerry kicking himself. When ya sit back and ponder
31 Qb001 : It looks like a stupid movie to me. Bush is an elected (well...) official. And Fahrenheit 9/11 is about Bush, his record, his administration, his lies
32 MaverickM11 : "That Celsius 41.11 movie attacks the messenger, Michael Moore." That's because Moore, and the object of his movie, the Bush administration, are the S
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