Alle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
In my school, Högstadieskolan Lönkan, i should get a 1st Degree reproach if i come late to a class, i should get a 2nd Degree reproach if i disturb the lesson in any way, but luckily all teachers don't give me reproaches for coming late. When i get 5 1st degree reproaches or 3 2nd degree reproaches i'll get detention, where i have to come to the school at 7AM on Friday morning and do some crap jobs (like cleaning etc.). If i'd be caught of smoking (no don't misunderstand me, i'm NOT smoking) i'd be given a detention straight away. Also if i'd do something REALLY BAD they could fire me from school temporarily up tp 3 months. So, how are the punishments at your school?
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2810 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
I don't know, but the name of your school doesn't sound too American and I've never heard of reproaches as punishments before so I'm guessing you're not in the US. The punishment system at all of the public schools I've attended or know of in the US (or at least here in Chicago) is simply dumb.
Most minor violations earn you a detention, which means you stay after school for 25 minutes doing whatever you please except sleeping or talking. Most kids play video games, listen to music, or do homework.
Intermediary is the SAC, or Saturday Assigned Classroom, this is also known as a Saturday Detention, it's halfway between a detention and a suspension. This is what you get if you miss a detention, and it is two hours on a Saturday of doing whatever you please, sleeping and talking quietly included as long as you're in the room for two hours (bathroom breaks are every half hour).
Larger violations earn suspensions, which means you are required to miss a day of school or more, the more days for the worse offenses.
If you're in Special Ed. type BD, Behavior Disorder, and you cannot be trusted at home, the school will assign you an in-school suspension, meaning you spend the entire school day in one room doing whatever you please except talking, sleeping, or eating. Like the life-sentence in prison, the in-school suspension is the ultimate nonpunishment, it consists of absolutely nothing and offers no gain that anyone can see. Many BD students I know intentionaly earn themselves in-school suspensions so that they can spend the day playing video games, surfing the web, or just skipping all their classes.
Last but not least is expulsion, removal from the school. Expulsion is possible through two means. If you are a minor and miss 16 or more consecutive days of school unexcused, the school expells you until the next year. If you commit a crime of some high degree you are expelled without option of return unless your parents call up the school board and throw a fit.
Here is a classic example of how students manipulate the system:
1. All students are required to where small, plastic ID tags. Some students elect not to.
2. The students who do not where the tags are given a detention as punishment.
3. The students fail to come to the detention and are given either three more or a Saturday Detention.
4. The students fail to come to the more severe Detentions.
5. The student is suspended for one day as punishment for missing detentions.
6. The student complains to his or her parents that he or she has been given a friggin' suspension for the mesely crime of not wearing an ID.
7. The parent, assuming he or she wants the kid to go to school, calls the school and tells them to get a life.
OR 7. The kid gets a day of school to do drugs, get laid, go to the park, or sleep in late just because he didn't wear an ID tag.
Students regularly boycott these punishments. More than once students have jointy refused to wear IDs, and there's nothing the school can do. Also students have been known to organize anti-Saturday-detention groups and thirty or so kids at once will end up being given suspensions, whereupon they simply come to school anyway and the school can't do anything but swallow it - if they call the parents the usual response is that if the kids are that determined to go to school, they shouldn't be stopped.
In my career in the public school system around here I've been given probably more than 100 detentions (at least 25 this year, so probably more than that). I have served only 5 or 6 of these (only 1 this year). I have been suspended on 3 occasions, only 1 of which I actually found myself at home, and I've been given 4 Saturday Detentions, only 1 of which I served. I was nearly expelled from Junior High but my parents threatened the school board and my move to a different school was thereafter recorded as a 'transfer'. I literally don't know anyone who hasn't gotten detentions unless they're a goody-two-shoes, and I don't mean that demeaningly. I mean if you actually stand up for anything, you have to get detentions. They give them out for standing up before the bell rings, not wearing IDs, coming in late, and so forth and so on. The system ultimately fails though because there's nothing done to the student him or her self... you skip detentions and end up with time off school. You tell your parents you've been suspended for something mesely and they call in and say that's absurd. It's a pathetic system, I really love beating it up. (That was sarcasm).
Suffice to say, nine out of ten kids I know have no respect for the school system, and the other one out of ten never thinks about it anyway. Teachers and staff members who preside over detentions are generally scoffed at regularly. Many teachers have adopted this approach and will let students do what they please as long as it actually is harmless, and will skip detentions and go straight to SACs or just bite through the rules and do something actually punishing like take their grade down a letter. It's at the point in my high school where when a teacher who is known to be a detention-giver gives an order it is quite noteably optional to obey it. In my homeroom students come in late from the hall where they've been socializing and the teacher gives everyone a detention. None of them ever go and the teacher screams his mind out at them the next day and they just sit there and smile and then laugh to each other at how red his face got. It's a cruel thing they do, but really it's just stupid. If the kids wanna' stand in the hall and talk for a while during homeroom - a 20-minute period during which nothing productive is achieved - then who really give a damn? A lot of the time other teachers are out there talking to them, and often the student-liked teachers will stand around talking to a student making him or her late so that a student-disliked teacher has to give the student a detention. The student them just smiles, points at the other teacher, and walks right through the punishment without further ado. Because law requires that the school keep permanent record of grades and allows even minors to go back and challenge a grade, teachers must use the grade-reduction punishment sparingly.
This is all the result of democracy. I don't mind at all. The reasonable teachers get it and let the kids do what they want - they realize that if you're not in class, if you sleep through class, etc., you won't learn. And without fail it's those students who hurt their own grades. Punishment self-inflicted. Students who don't wear IDs are just not worth punishing to many teachers. What's the point? I've shared many a conversation with teachers on that subject. My Government teacher, who shall remain safely anonymous, doesn't punish. That's his rule. If you misbehave in class he'll tell you to shut the f*ck up, but he won't give you a detention. You can't have a group of dictators in a democracy, and that's why it doesn't work.
N312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2684 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1928 times:
Taken from the student handbook (online).
A student's personal conduct during school, at a school activity, or outside of school is an indication of his desire to remain or not to remain at Catholic Central. A student who displays a negative, uncooperative or disrespectful attitude will be asked to leave Catholic Central. The following are considered offenses which will be dealt with by appropriate disciplinary action:
1.Verbal or physical cruelty toward others.
2.Disrespect for authority.
3.Destruction of property.
4.Use of profanity or vulgar language.
5.Possession of immodest literature.
6.Illegal or immoral conduct.
7.Use of tobacco in any form.
9.Cheating -- students cheating will lose credit for the test, assignment, or final examination.
10.Possession, use or sale of illegal drugs in the school, on the campus or at any school function will result in expulsion.
11.Possession, use (under the influence) or sale of alcohol, whether at school or at a school function, will be treated as a very serious offense, and will be dealt with accordingly.
12.Possession of any sort of a weapon, at school or at a school function, will result in immediate expulsion.
13.Laser pointers are never allowed on school property under any circumstances.
14.Any communication devices (cellular phones and beepers), and private sound equipment
(portable CD and cassette tape players, radios, computer games, etc.) are not permitted during school hours and are subject to confiscation by the Administration.
15.Any threats made towards members of the Catholic Central Family, and its properties, may result in immediate expulsion.
CARE OF PROPERTY
Students must always respect school property and the property of the school's neighbors. Paper and other trash are to be disposed of in proper receptacles. Hallways of the school building are to be kept clean and neat. Costs for damages to the building, the equipment or the vehicles due to unauthorized use, rowdyism or malicious behavior will be assessed to the responsible party or parties. Other appropriate penalties will be imposed.
1. REGULAR ABSENCE
When a student is absent from school, two things are required:
a. A telephone call and
b. a note signed by a parent/guardian when the student returns to school.
On the day of an absence, a parent/guardian must telephone the school (313-534-0660) between 7:30 A.M. and 10:00 A.M., stating his/her name, the student's name and ID number.
Upon his return to school, a student must first report to the Attendance Office with a formal note, properly signen by the parent/guardian.He will then be given a stamped absence slip, which he will show to each of his teachers at the beginning of each class; the teacher will sign the slip, and the student will return that slip to the Main Office at the end of the day.
NOTE: If a telephone call was not made and a formal not not presented, the student will receive a detention for that day.
A student representing Catholic Central in any school function/contest (including practices, rehearsals, etc) is required to be in school for three (3) class periods on the day of the activity.
2. PRE-ARRANGED EXCUSED ABSENCE
For a pre-arranged excused absence, a note must be written by the parent/guardian one week in advance, for approval by the Dean of Students.
NOTE: It is the student's responsibility, not the teacher's, to see that homework/school work is done completely, in all cases of absence.
1. TARDINESS TO SCHOOL
a.The student who arrives late for school will receive a detention for after school on that day--no exceptions will be made. Excused lates for medical reasons, etc. must be arranged for prior to that day.
b. The student arriving after 8:00 A.M. must secure a late slip from the Attendance Office to present to a teacher for admission to class.
Failure to follow a, b, or c above will result in another detention.
2. TARDINESS TO CLASS DURING SCHOOL DAY
Students are expected to be in class on time. A violation will result in appropriate disciplinary action.
Excessive absences or tardies, excused or unexcused, will be dealt with by the Administration.
Usa_boeing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1921 times:
It sounds like the teachers at your school are annoying! My school is much more laid back.
If you are late for a class, the teacher will mark you down, it you get four lates, you get three detentions. Most teachers don't care unless you are really late. They'll let you slide for up to about 30 sec. If you disrupt a class, the teacher will just yell at you and put you out in the hall or keep you after class for a few minute. If you did something really bad, they'll send you to the office.
Detention: This is a 45 minute stay after school. I never got in trouble with the school (not many people do), but I've heard this is a pain. They make you do homework, and if you don;t have any, they make you copy the dictionary.
If you don't go to detentions, or if you did something really really bad, they send you to ISS(In-School Suspension), which I heard REALLY SUCKS. They put you in a room with all of the other people who got ISS. It has no windows, no air conditioning, no nothing. The desks are against the walls with a wall on each side. Your teachers give you the work for the day, and you have to do it. If you are done, they make you sit there and do nothing. No books are allowed. The teacher who runs ISS is bad too. He yells and screams at everyone. THis is probably why people at my school behave.
If you do something REALLY bad, like threaten someone, they give you OSS (Out of School Suspension). All they do is send you home.
We also have those ID tags, but all they require is that you carry them with you. They "say" they check them if yo are in the halls with a pass, but they never do. They never use them.
Soku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
Private Christian school
Late-Get a pass from the office 5 tardys = one detention. detention is during lunch working or cleaning.
uniforms- Tucked in shirt, belt, 2 buttons buttoned for polo shirts. All but one for button up shirts. Don't ask me what it is with girls
classroom discipline - varies from teacher to teacher one makes us pay $.25 doubles every day after $2.00 dtention. keep talking a blue sheet (u have to work during lunch) don't work regular detention. classroom infractions inclue interuption, chewing gum, and sleeping (except in study hall we still sleep thou).
Do something reall bad IN SCHOOl Suspension, you know things like swearing flicking off teachers. In the in school we sit in a little booth all day (about the size of an airplane lavatory) without lunch while you stare at white walls and go crazy.
after an in school next step expulsion.
didn't do homework thats an afterschool detention 35 mins long.
Westjet_737 From Japan, joined Nov 1999, 869 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
In my school if youu are even holding a cigerette in the hallways it is a policy that you are automaticly expelled.
(I have never smoked and never plan to)
If you get a un-excused late you go to the late room for a detention. (Never had one, even though I am late for almost every class the teachers don't really care.)
If you mis-behave, be disruptive or fool around. you will get a detention. (These are all given by individual teachers they vary from teacher to teacher anywhere from 5mins-1hr. Never had one of these either)
If a majority of the class fools around the entire class is given a Detention from that teacher. (There have been about 10 of there in my class this year. 8 of these were from math class, I did not have to go to any of these, I always behave in math class since math is so very important. (Because of that I have a 100% average in math) The other two were from homeroom, there are no exemptions from this one. They are about 5 mins long.
Iainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
My school was pretty much as most of the above
3 tardies - detention
ditch - detention
4 detention - Saturday school
Drugs/Alc. - Kicked out unless you are popular and your parents donate a lot of money, or you are on a sports team!
Fight - 3 days suspended unless any of the above mentioned.
I only got a couple detention however the principle would sign them off as I was graduating in 3 years instead of the normal 4. According to him this is quite rare and an honor for the school, and if I was doing that I did not diserve them.
LOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1889 times:
$2.00 for a detention what kinda school you going to??
Well we have a fight in our school everyday. yesterday i had a fight with 2 guys, i kicked their sorry @$$es. Anyway 26 people from our school got expelled and 47 have been suspended. Our school even made the Chicago Tribune because some mexican kid brought a gun to school. (5 students were arrested that day).
EGKK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
At my school, today, a boy got expelled from maths lessons, 4 detentions for 4 months and a report!! Mind you, he was pissing me off aswell, by singing "I know a song that will get on your nerves...." It was a bit funny.
in the past I had detentions and litter patrols for being late, which are these things where you have to go around school with a teacher and about 4 other people and take a bag with you and pick up ALL the litter! One teacher makes us get the chewing gum out of the floor!! YUCK!!
Lewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1864 times:
I can get a detention of 1-3 days if I do something really bad. If I am caught smoking my parents will be notified butI won't get a detention. But if I do it for the second time, I will probably get one. I can also get kicked out of school if I write on the walls or desks or if I destroy school property. Thats because vandalism will be considered a crime when I go to university.
America West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1847 times:
These are our punishments...
1. Verbal Reminders
2. Loss of privileges
3. Teacher/student conferences
4. Seperation from class
5. Phone call home
6. teacher note to parent
7. parent/teacher conference
8. student note to parent
9. daily report sheet
10. counciling session
11. letters of apology
12. community service
If none of that stuff works, the teachers will give us a "Warning Card". Its a card that goes home for your parents to sign. It tells the teachers name, the date, and what you did wrong. You have to return it the next day with a parent signature, or you will get another one. If you get 3, that means a detention. If you don't show up for your detention, you get a in-school suspension. If you get to many in-school suspensions, you can be expelled.
I have only gotten one in-school suspension. That was when I was caught talking about a teacher.
Us330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4053 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1843 times:
In order from the lightest to the hardest:
1. Early Arrival Detention (Arrive at 7:15 am)
2. Lunch Detention (Clean the trays off the lunch line)
3. After School Detention (Do whatever any teacher wants you to do)
4. Saturday Detention (Go to school on saturday and perform manual labor)
5. In-School suspension (You must attend school, but spend the entire day in a small, windowless room)
6. Out of school suspension (self-explanatory)
Co LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1832 times:
In our School District (Middle School) the kids get the "Board" if they act up. The teachers and administrators can paddle kids. They use this large board with holes drilled into it, quite sick huh? Thats typical here in Mississippi. They dont do this at the high school. ISI, Punish Work, Suspensions, Detentions are also common.