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Mt St Helens Erupting!  
User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
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Plume estimated by KOIN 6 helicopter reporter at 12000 ft so far. Going to go see if I can see it... any NOTAMS yet?

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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

It's on cnn now! wow

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

Got it on Fox News!

If you have an opinion on a topic, you should in detail express why you have the opinion and what made you come to that conclusion.



User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

Got a pilot report that says the ash cloud is oriented SSW towards PDX...

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Hey

i am watching fox news right now and it said that people going from LAX-SEA or SFO-SEA or vice versa will have a great view of this!! This is so exciting!!



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

ATCSCC ADVZY 044 DCC 10/01/04 VOLCANIC ACTIVITY BULLETIN
FVXX20 KWBC 011916 WSI DDS:011918
VOLCANIC ASH ADVISORY
ISSUED: 2004OCT01/1916Z VAAC: WASHINGTON
VOLCANO: ST. HELENS 1201-05
LOCATION: N4612W12211 AREA: US-WASHINGTON
SUMMIT ELEVATION: 8363 FT /2549 M/
ADVISORY NUMBER: 2004/003
INFORMATION SOURCE: NOT AVBL
ERUPTION DETAILS: NOT AVBL
OBS ASH DATE/TIME: /Z
OBS ASH CLOUD: NOT AVBL
FCST ASH CLOUD 6H: NOT AVBL
FCST ASH CLOUD 12H: NOT AVBL
FCST ASH CLOUD 18H: NOT AVBL
REMARKS: WE HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION SUGGESTING A
POSSIBLE ASH EMISSION. WE WILL GATHER FURTHER
INFORMATION ANDISSUE A FULL ADVISORY AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
THIS PRODUCTS HEADER WILL CHANGE FROM KWBC TO KNES
EFFECTIVE OCT 28, 2004.
NEXT ADVISORY: AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
011920-012300


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

Hey

it is menchonig the FAA and saying that the clouds went up 16,00 feet.
They are now being told to divert around Mt.St Helens. They are tlkn about canceling flights.



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 165 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

It was interesting -- A guy had just finished reporting his report on KIRO Seattle and he's like "No! Wait a minute come back to me" -- and bang, there it was. Live. neato!

User currently offlineCharlib52 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 165 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Aa777jr--

Because the biggest risk is to airliners at altitude, not poeple on the ground.

Sounds appropriate to me.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

>>>why is this post on Airliners.net?

Because aircraft use the same sky that the ash is billowing, and ash can affect aircraft ops...


>>>They are now being told to divert around Mt.St Helens.

I'm sure they're -deviating- around it; diversions are another matter entirely...


>>>They are tlkn about canceling flights.

As someone who cancels flights, who exactly is "they" ???



User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Live coverage on http://www.kgw.com

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Ash can shut down airline engines.

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Hey

i belive they where talking about the FAA  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Ash chokes out the oxygen. It also has a habit of melting components.

Looks like it's starting up again.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Airline United
Flight Number 964
Departure City (Airport) San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Departure Time 10/01/2004 11:13 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Seattle, WA (SEA)
Arrival Time 10/01/2004 12:42 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
Current Altitude 7,900 feet
Current Groundspeed 308 mph
Flight Status In Flight


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

>>>i belive they where talking about the FAA

The airlines cancel flights. If the ash becomes such that flights can't be safely operated into PDX, SEA, or wherever, the airlines will start cancelling.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3595 times:

I don't know about you guys, but right now I wanna be on United 964. Right now it should just be passing St. Helens.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

OK, here's the latest...

About 10 minute's worth of eruption earlier, mostly steam, some ash, tops 12,000-16,000... (This is nowhere near as severe as the effects of the 1980 eruption..) SEA ARTCC is routing traffic around it.

ATCSCC ADVZY 047 DCC 10/01/04 VOLCANIC ACTIVITY BULLETIN
FVXX20 KWBC 011939 WSI UKS:011944
VOLCANIC ASH ADVISORY
ISSUED: 2004OCT01/1938Z VAAC: WASHINGTON
VOLCANO: ST. HELENS 1201-05
LOCATION: N4612W12211 AREA: US-WASHINGTON
SUMMIT ELEVATION: 8363 FT /2549 M/
ADVISORY NUMBER: 2004/004
INFORMATION SOURCE: GFS MODEL WINDS. GOES-10.
USGS.
ERUPTION DETAILS: ASH EMISSION AROUND 19Z
OBS ASH DATE/TIME: 01/1930Z
OBS ASH CLOUD: ASH NOT IDENTIFIABLE FROM SATELLITE
DATA. WINDS SFC/FL160 MOVING TO S 10-20 KNOTS.
FCST ASH CLOUD 6H: NOT AVBL
FCST ASH CLOUD 12H: NOT AVBL
FCST ASH CLOUD 18H: NOT AVBL
REMARKS: A VERY SMALL AREA OF ASH JUST SOUTH OF
THE VOLCANO COULD BE SEEN AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN GOES IMAGERY AT 1915Z
BUT WAS TOO FAINT TO SEE BY 1930Z. PLUME IS
MOSTLY STEAM BUT WITH SOME ASH. THE ACTIVE
EMISSION LASTED ABOUT 10 MINUTES AND IS NOW
BELIEVED TO BE OVER BUT A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF ASH
REMAINS AT Macedonian Airlines (Greece)">IN THE ATMOSPHERE. ASH TOPS ARE ESTIMATED
TO BE BETWEEN FL120 AND FL160. ...
THIS PRODUCTS HEADER WILL CHANGE FROM KWBC TO KNES
EFFECTIVE OCT 28, 2004.
NEXT ADVISORY: WILL BE ISSUED BY 2004OCT02/0145Z
011949-020144

[Edited 2004-10-01 22:11:08]

User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3299 times:
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Alaska has apparently delayed and/or cancelled a handful of arrivals/departures at PDX until 2pm just in case... Looking at PDX's website, there aren't many other delays, etc.

User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

Latest report is that ash cloud went up 10,000 feet. It was a very small eruption. But man I wish I was at the Johnson Ridge Observatory today, or on the CO flight to Houston at noon! Last time I took that flight we went right over Mount Rainier and MSH.


But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

Update:

http://www.kgw.com/travel/stories/kgw_100104_travel_helens_airport.2bb4723b.html



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Ash chokes out the oxygen. It also has a habit of melting components.

Umm...no....

The biggest threat to aviation is the ash, yes. Two reasons: It's HIGHLY abrasive (imagine being sandblasted at 500mph) and it has a tendency to coat the hot sections of jet engines. Melting ash forms glass...not something you want in your engines, that's for darn sure. Multiple engine failures have been caused over the years due to this.

Little tiny bits of rock damage the leading edges of the aircraft (especially things like windows).



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineZephyr98 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Just checking my flights from SLC to PDX and SEA, currently not showing any delays or cancellations for DL or OO.


Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints...
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

It's pretty much dissipated now...

User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2691 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

Whoever would've thought Mt. St. Helens would erupt so soon again? And it had been a thousand years in between its eruption prior to 1980 and its 1980 eruption? THat is incredible it could erupt just 24 years later!


Fly one thing; Fly it well
25 CainanUK : Whoever would've thought Mt. St. Helens would erupt so soon again? And it had been a thousand years in between its eruption prior to 1980 and its 1980
26 Samurai 777 : Whoever would've thought Mt. St. Helens would erupt so soon again? And it had been a thousand years in between its eruption prior to 1980 and its 1980
27 CactusHP : What is St. Helens going to do? Half the mountain is blasted away! CactusHP
28 DLKAPA : It's not what's IN the mountain, it's what's BELOW the mountain. Actually I think today wasn't really an eruption, just one massive volcanic Fart.
29 Samurai 777 : ^^ That's right - what's below the mountain counts, not in the mountain. A volcano's magma chamber typically lies several miles underground. It also s
30 L-188 : You know strictly speaking as somebody who has been ashed by volcanos several times, Mts. Spurr, Redoubt, Augustine, Shishaldin, Pavlof. And have been
31 AzoresLover : L-188, that's about right. I was there when it blew its top in 1980, and believe me the noise was INCREDIBLE!!! It was SO intense!! We'll have to see
32 Post contains links and images B757300 : http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/ Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument
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