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Why Do Conservatives Hate Hillary Clinton So Much?  
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4037 times:

Hillary Rodham was born in to an upper-middle class family of suburban Chicago. She was a Republican until she met William (Bill) Jefferson Clinton. Clinton himself was a southern conservative Democrat so there was no sharp contrast in ideology.

Hillary Rodham Clinton was not the first First Lady to play an active role in her husband's administration. Other First Ladys' such as Nancy Regan, Betty Ford and Eleanor Roosevelt played active roles in there husband's administrations.

Now a U.S. Senator from New York, she has proven to be very moderate. The Senior Senator from New York (Charles Shumer) has a more liberal voting record than Hillary Clinton yet conservatives love to rack her name across the coals.
What gives?

If John Kerry loses this election, Hillary Rodham Clinton my be the nominee in 2008 and she could very well win.
What are conservatives going to do then?


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4024 times:

If John Kerry loses this election, Hillary Rodham Clinton my be the nominee in 2008 and she could very well win.
What are conservatives going to do then?


Hyperventilate. Just hyperventilate.

Will be nice to return to the days when right wing "reporters" could get away with calling the Presidents daughter a dog, doncha think?


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4018 times:

Because they hate Bill, it's called guilty-by-association.

A good 99% of people do it, it ain't right, but it still happens. Heck I've seen you do it, so calm down. Big grin



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User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4015 times:

I suspect it has something to do with the fact that she spoke-up during almost all of Bill's legislatures except his last presidency.
The fact remains that ,at that time, she didn't hold any official office, was never elected for something and actually shouldn't have been so loud.
Being the spous of a political figure doesn't give you the voice and you are not supposed to abuse your position so that you can proclaim your beliefs.



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User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13554 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4015 times:
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I don't hate Hillary Clinton. I do, however, have a profound difference of opinion with her politically.

I think the thing most people (myself included) find most distasteful about Mrs. Clinton is that she displays her political views with an "I know what's best for you," attitude that almost comes across as condescending and smug.




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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

"I think the thing most people (myself included) find most distasteful about Mrs. Clinton is that she displays her political views with an "I know what's best for you," attitude that almost comes across as condescending and smug."

Perhaps.
But all politicians do. Pomposity is the hallmark of the profession.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Anyone who loves liberty and values freedom ought to despise that statist Hillary.


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User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3982 times:
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One reason why I dont like Hillary she said once
"America could be a good country"
And no I do not think she will be elected because too many southern beleifs of women.(men who would not put a women in charge)



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

And no I do not think she will be elected because too many southern beleifs of women.(men who would not put a women in charge)

And you think that being a misogynist is a Southern thing? How naive and bigoted.


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Not only the arguement of putting women in power, but she has a terrible, limited track record. 4 (then it would be 8) years of Senator experience...a crappy one at that...sure as heck doesn't entitle her to it....you know the only reason she went for NY senator was for "resume" experience. I don't think America is ready for another 4 Clinton years...ever.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

The type of men who are afraid of Hillary are those who feel esmasculated at the drop of a hat. "Aggresive" women really scare these types... they don't know what to do with them ... so they trash them..anyway they can. An aggressive male is simply a determined and driven achiever.. the same woman be comes a loud mouth biatch.


BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

My only beef with Hilary is the way she waltzed into senatorship of a state to which she could clame zero connection...all she had was fame.


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5386 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

I think they hate her because she represents a strong, independent woman, something the modern ERA-hating Republican party detests. To most modern Republicans, a woman has to be some submissive piece of arm candy *cough Laura Bush cough* in order to be of use. As for misogyny, when a Southern Republican is running on a platform of making ALL abortion illegal, including in cases of rape, incest, or when the child's life is in danger and demeaningly refers to his opponent as "a nice lady," as Jim DeMint is doing here in South Carolina, then yeah, I could see how some would regard Republicans and Southerners as misogynists.


South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

It's not just conservatives. I am a true and proud liberal, and I can't stand her.

If she were to run in 2012 (after kerry has two terms) I don't know what I would do.

I am pissed that she felt she deserved to be senetor. I could have respected her if she had gone back to Little Rock and ran for congress, and worked her way up, like eveyone else has to do.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

Why Do Conservatives Hate Hillary Clinton So Much?

Simple. It's because she blatantly pushed a health care reform despite having no mandate to do so. She was an unelected first lady. To venture into policy areas was inappropriate.




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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5386 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

To venture into policy areas was inappropriate

Just about every modern first lady has done this, from Eleanor Roosevelt to Laura Bush.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

Just about every modern first lady has done this, from Eleanor Roosevelt to Laura Bush.

Not as blatantly & aggressively as HRC. Nor in such a central policy area as health care.

Nancy Reagan and her "just say no" drug slogan is harmless. HRC and her aggressive health care reform is unacceptable meddling in political policy.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5386 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

HRC and her aggressive health care reform is unacceptable meddling in political policy.

Which she undertook under her husband's appointment of her to the commission in light of her performance on a similar commission in Arkansas. When the President of the US asks you to sit on a commission or a panel, one's hardly in a position to say no. Had she NOT, then she would have been castigated for "not caring about America's health care system." Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Garnetpalmetto:
You raise a good point as you usually do .  Smile

Modern day Republicans seem to forget that the first woman elected to the Senate was a Republican.

There are a few good women in the U.S. Senate from the South such as Mary Landrieu and Blanche Lambert Lincoln.
Dole and Hutchinson are just cheerleaders.


The people here who are bashing Hillary Clinton are ignoring the fact that Nancy Regan was a hands on First Lady as well. Why do you folks ignore that?



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3907 times:

My only beef with Hilary is the way she waltzed into senatorship of a state to which she could clame zero connection...all she had was fame.

New York was an ideal choice because it had an open Senate seat and is the most liberal state in the country. In other words, it was the easiest possible choice. Her quest became even easier when Rudy Giuliani dropped out of contention (he was never officially in) and was replaced as the Republican candidate by Rick Lazio, who ran one of the poorest campaigns imaginable - after getting the nomination, just a few months before the election, his first order of business was to take a two-week family vacation.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3893 times:


Because she's got balls...



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Mary Landrieu, good? LMAO!

New York was an ideal choice because because she never would've possibly been elected in Arkansas. EVER.



And the tired old schtick about how Southerners or conservatives can't stand accomplished women just shows how bigoted the announcer of such a "fact" is.

My mother, for example, is a fine lady from Mississippi, and compared to her, Garnetpalmetto hasn't accomplished 1/4 of what she has, and BN747 not even 1/2. For example, by the time she was 25 she already had two bachelor's degrees, taught high school for a year, obtained her PPL, and was married. That's more than either of you can claim.

And yes, my mother thinks Hillary is trash: not because she's powerful, but because of her demonstrated lack of morals and integrity, plus her consuming lust for power.

[Edited 2004-10-06 07:26:58]

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5386 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

My mother, for example, is a fine lady from Mississippi, and compared to her, Garnetpalmetto hasn't accomplished 1/4 of what she has, and BN747 not even 1/2. For example, by the time she was 24 she already had two bachelor's degrees, taught high school for a year, obtained her PPL, and was married. That's more than either of you can claim.

So your mother is a motivated, driven woman. Good for her, MD-90. In addition to that, she turned out a loyal son who I do enjoy sparring with via a.net. Call it the Old South vs. New South showdown  Wink/being sarcastic

I'm speaking from my experiences though, and from what I've seen, conservatives in the South (not of our generation, mind you, but of 1-2 generations ahead of us) do have problems with women in positions of power. Going back to the Senate race here in SC, one somewhat prominent Republican backer has stated that he believes Inez Tenenbaum is ill-qualified because "women are more emotional." Now if that doesn't sound like tripe from some 1950s rag supporting the Cult of Domesticity, I don't know what else is. Attack her for a lack of experience outside of being our Superintendent of Education, sure, I can deal with that. Criticize her work as Superintendent of Education, again, I feel is fair game. Saying she's incapable of the job because she possesses different genitalia? THAT's the kind of crap that gives our fair home a bad name, MD-90. Thankfully, I do believe it's dying out as that generation retires and dies away and people like yourself - who were exposed to strong women who could do all that AND raise a family - begin to take positions within the Party.

And by the by, had I wanted to, I could have gotten two B.A.s at this point in time. However, after losing my father halfway through my Sophomore year of college, I dropped the B.A. program in History so that I would have more time to spend with my mother. I judged her sanity and mine to be more important than an extra diploma at that time.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

"I know what's best for you," attitude that almost comes across as condescending and smug."

Sounds like most of the liberals. Especially attorneys in the DC metro area.

Guess it's contagious.


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

Perhaps because she is basically a socialist.

And the stong woman argument has no merit. See Liz Dole, and Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

I think too it may because she is basically a coat tail rider who couldn't even control her own house, but yet expects us to believe she could control a country.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
25 BN747 : My mother, for example, is a fine lady from Mississippi, and compared to her, Garnetpalmetto hasn't accomplished 1/4 of what she has, and BN747 not ev
26 Arniepie : I don't know if it is already mentioned here but I seem to recall that Oprah Winfrey also carry's a lot of moral weight and some said that she would a
27 Jamesag96 : "When your mom has had dinner with Donald Trump..." I don't know if you really want to go there, I have heard about his "dinners."... "...your mom can
28 Aerobalance : I do not care for her socialistic views.
29 Garnetpalmetto : Y'all call her a socialist, yet she campaigned for Barry Goldwater back in the day...hmm....just think had history been different and she never met Bi
30 MD-90 : When your mom has had dinner with Donald Trump, flown to London and met up with the owner of an NFL football team and attended a game with him (to the
31 Jaysit : Hillary really opened herself to VALID criticism when she waltzed into Congress with her healthcare plans (did she really think that Republicans were
32 Cptkrell : Well, I think Hillary is pretty much of a socialist when it comes to "us". It's O.K. for "them" (ie: the country club of $400K+ partners and such), bu
33 Boeing7E7 : Her "Jew Bastard" comments don't help her image much either.
34 Cptkrell : I guess I've had my head in the sand, but don't remember the "Jew Bastard" comment. If true, it will lower her even another notch, IMO. Regards...Jack
35 Boeing7E7 : She refered to Dick Morris and a "F'ing Jew Bastard".
36 Post contains images EA CO AS : she blatantly pushed a health care reform despite having no mandate to do so A very valid point as well. When your mom has had dinner with Donald Trum
37 Sv7887 : Hi All, I'm more of a moderate, but I don't like Hillary at all. Say what you want about Bill Clinton, but he was considered a charming guy. The guy h
38 N6376m : I don't know about everyone else, but for me it's her CANKLES that drive me up the walls.
39 VSLover : i like hillary. shes partnered with marc jacobs, and together they have produced the most fabulous t-shirts available. the $65 t-shirts go to a downto
40 BN747 : What kind of accomplishment is that? Having lunch with the Donald, big deal. Having the money to go to Athens, wow. Name dropping is such an accomplis
41 Post contains images EA CO AS : Re-read the thread, player-hater, the nutjob said... Garnetpalmetto hasn't accomplished 1/4 of what she has, and BN747 not even 1/2 Re-read what you w
42 BN747 : Could you DO my job? I seriously doubt that, too... If you're doing it.. I'm 100% sure I can... the question is.. would I want to? Without knowing wha
43 Post contains images EA CO AS : Dude whatever's got you corked..seek relief immediately! I tried, but your mom wasn't home. Seriously though...BN, you're a smart guy - and even thoug
44 Superfly : Yyz717: Nancy Reagan and her "just say no" drug slogan is harmless. ..and ineffective. Cptkrell: I'm also of the opinion that even though Hillary is d
45 NW747400 : "I am pissed that she felt she deserved to be senetor. I could have respected her if she had gone back to Little Rock and ran for congress, and worke
46 BN747 : EA CO AS... dude the love/hate respect is mutual... BN747
47 Post contains images Superfly : Will someone please put to any peice of legislation that Senator Hillary Clinton has introduced that could remoltly be considered 'socialist'. How com
48 Post contains images EA CO AS : How come no one screams SOCIALISM when tobacco cartels get subsidies? Now THERE'S a bit of irony - the government pays subsidies to tobacco cartels...
49 BN747 : How come no one screams SOCIALISM when tobacco cartels get subsidies? Because those that are screaming 'Socialism' are too far gone and locked into fu
50 Superfly : BN747: By the way, thanks for that post about Dubya's professor Sup'fly... I've shared that with a slew of people and they were absolutely blown away
51 Csavel : I have no great love for Hillary, either, and as LHMARK put it, she got elected to a state she had zero attachment to. I cringed when she put on that
52 MD-90 : The vast majority of men in the South don't have a problem with a women being president. We just have a beef with socialists, which means we have a be
53 BN747 : LMAO. My mother will play Solitaire, but she doesn't have the time to waste on a measly internet forum. MD90, congratulations... you've proven worthy
54 Post contains images Boeing7E7 : Because those that are screaming 'Socialism' are too far gone and locked into fuming at 'average Joe lunch-bucket' scamming off welfare/unemployement
55 Smithfly114 : Because she is the devil incarnate . . . .
56 Post contains images Superfly : MD-90: But I suppose that people who can't manage to get married or have kids... What on earth is that supposed to mean? That was a lifestyle choice h
57 Banco : Can I ask...: If she's criticised for not being elected but pushing health care reform under Clinton's presidency, what is the difference between her
58 Post contains images Superfly : Banco: Conservatives in the United States just like to b!tch, cry and scream bloody murder for the sake of bitching, crying and screaming bloody murde
59 An-225 : My mother will play Solitaire, but she doesn't have the time to waste on a measly internet forum. But I suppose that people who can't manage to get ma
60 MD-90 : Two children is hardly "cranking out kids". Being married and raising a family is a sign of maturity, however. One that many of the adults on this for
61 Post contains images Banco : Is anyone actually going to take the time out from ranting at each other and answer my question?
62 Post contains images LHMark : Give MD-90 a break. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to kids and marriage. He wrote a book on it. Here's an excerpt:
63 Post contains images KROC : If you see any loose chicklets lying around, feel free to return them to MD-90, since he just had his china sprayed all over from a Haymaker thrown by
64 MD-90 : Banco, it's already been answered. They don't hate her, they just despise her. 1). Her blatant lust for power and desire to control others 2). Her bel
65 Post contains images PROSA : She refered to Dick Morris and a "F'ing Jew Bastard". She could have just called him a "f***ing foot fetishist" and no one would have minded
66 BN747 : 1). Her blatant lust for power and desire to control others 2). Her belief that she knows best, so tax away and let government take care of you, desp
67 Falcon84 : I think the thing most people (myself included) find most distasteful about Mrs. Clinton is that she displays her political views with an "I know what
68 Post contains images Superfly : MD-90: Being married and raising a family is a sign of maturity, What kind of B/S is that? Any chump can get dragged to the alter and get a woman preg
69 Post contains images Banco : MD90, Superfly, I suppose it's as much as I'm going to get. I was kind of hoping to get an answer from those who actually dislike her, but oh well...
70 Post contains images Superfly : Banco: Honestly, I was never a HUGE fan of Hillary Rodham Clinton but he right-wing nuts here in the U.S.A. hate her so much, I love her by default. I
71 Jasepl : But Superfly, I though George Bush is the anti-Christ! At least that's the Pope said, according to an infamous thread here on ANut.
72 MD-90 : Oh, I actually dislike quite a good bit. But unlike BN747, I'm not a bitter, hate-filled person. Now that she has beenelected U.S. Senator , her votin
73 BN747 : Oh, I actually dislike quite a good bit. But unlike BN747, I'm not a bitter, hate-filled person. ...said the 'Butt-Klown' (in hood and robe) while pou
74 Post contains images Falcon84 : Here, we have the weekly meeting of the "Group Formerly Known as RWAK", discussing their favorite subjects, like their hatred of Hillary Clinton. Refr
75 JeepBoy : Hillary! *yay* This woman is the only hope the USA has of ever redeeming itself to the rest of the world. Why republicans despise her is patently obvi
76 Post contains images Superfly : Falcon84: That photo is funny! Jasepl: THe Pope was correct. I have always respected the Pope and he is spot on in that statement.
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