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19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732  
User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Since not everyone was excited about the FRA meet, some members have decided to proceed with a long awaited and much discussed DUB meet regardless of the others plans (which anyway seem to have moved to April if the latest poll is to be believed)

Something along these lines, though plans could of course change depending on the wishes of attendees.

Saturday:
- People arrive
- Some spotting (easy to reach location without a car, if the weather is particularly poor we can always hang at the airport pub)
- Sit down meal followed a night out in the temple bar area.

Sunday:
- Visit of the Guinness storehouse etc.
- Back to the airport, some more spotting as individual members leave.

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23

With Ryanair's 737-200s still operating a number of UK-Dublin routes, it is an ideal chance combine this meet with a last flight on one. I tried to consider a way of having the whole group do a return from DUB but concluded this might be too time consuming and expensive.

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

For anyone in the US, Aer Lingus offers New York - JFK to Dublin flights that weekend for a total of US$ 331 return incl. taxes. Flights options are as follows:

Dep JFK Friday 18th / Arr. DUB Saturday 19th
EI104 18:00-05:30 (non-stop)
EI110/EI132 18:50-07:45 (change in Shannon)
EI108 21:20-08:50

Dep. DUB Sunday 19th / Arr. JFK the same day
EI109 16:30-19:00
(other earlier flight options departing arr. JFK 13:00 and 15:45 for US$40 more)

http://www.aerlingus.com

Jeremiah





Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

I would rather be at FRA, because the weather will be nicer than DUB, it may be cold, but who cares? Also, a lot of us want FRA.

Kiwi the wannabe brit

Edit: I was too rude first time around

[Edited 2004-10-06 20:56:48]

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

KiwiNanday: "Four Words: Not Going To Happen"

Given five of us are already commited to attending, I expect it to happen. Look we don't have ambitions to get tens of members to come, just a few more would be perfect.

Many who attended the MAN/LHR meets confirmed that with so many people, you don't have time to really get to know everyone. The organisation also becomes complex with everyone wandering off in different directions.

Jeremiah

[Edited 2004-10-06 21:02:43]


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2734 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4072 times:


Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23



Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4699 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4066 times:

Teahan, there were around 30 people at AMS, and as far as I have seen no-one really wondered off to anywhere, maybe apart from the place we were standing to the snack car, but that's not what I call wandering off.

So it's just how you organise the meeting I guess, and if you don't want to organise a big meeting, np, as long as it suits you, but don't say it won't work.

"Four Words: Not Going To Happen"
The FRA meet?, I've got 3 words for you: "Wait and see". The FRA meet will happen, it's just trying to get the most people happy, and not setting a fixed date at the beginning. Yes we will set a date soon too, but we know what people wanted.

Anyway, you've put me, Erwin and Ben in a tougher spot then we were allready in, namely organising another meeting at a date wich (as seen by the latest list) is very popular for FRA as well.

"As for the unclarity in the FRA thread Ben and I will take full responsibilty. It sure isn't easy to find a date in 2 options, wich both do not really stand out, we will try to sort it out ASAP"

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:05:28]


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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

"Four Words: Not Going To Happen"

I find this a VERY selfish remark. Ben, Bob and Erwin have put some effort into FRA and are really trying hard to sort out this mess, if anything you have put more pressure on them with DUB, let them sort out FRA before starting a meet of your own!.

kaz


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

@Kaz:

That quote ("Four Words: Not Going To Happen") were KiwiNanday's words, before he edited them out, most certainly not mine.

In fairness, we had decided on the February date for a DUB meet when FRA was postponed until April.

Jeremiah

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:12:20]


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineMikec From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 247 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4018 times:

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23


User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Ok I Apologise.

But i still think it was not fair rushing into a DUB meet when FRA was still in the making. not fair at all


User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3978 times:

Kaz,

I agree with you totally on this. From what I have seen to date, the FRA meet is still potentially going to be 19/20 Feb. I'm sure that there are people who would like to do both FRA and DUB if they were at different times of the year so why have them compete and have people forced into choosing one or the other?

I'm just getting the impression that because FRA looks to have been chosen over DUB that some are trying to devalue the FRA meet. Of course, you are free to organise whatever meet you like, when you like, but its the manner in which this has been done which I find unpleasant.

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:47:27]


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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

I have to side with Karis here  Big grin

Its making life difficult with 2 meets, I dont know which to go to...  Big grin

Oh what the hell I will be going to FRA in feb...



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4699 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

so that makes 3 of us (posted my initial reply earlier up the post)


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User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Hi, David,

>I'm just getting the impression that because FRA looks to have been chosen over DUB that some are trying to devalue the FRA meet. Of course, you are free to organise whatever meet you like, when you like, but its the manner in which this has been done which I find unpleasant<

I agree with Kaz and you. It's sad to see this is happening. I'm not planning on attending any of the meets but, if most of the attendees at the FRA atendees are going there from other countries and a good deal of the DUB meet atendees are locals , couldn't the DUB meet be at least a week later (or earlier)?



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

I'd personally prefer to attend a Dublin meet to a Frankfurt one, but the Irish tourist visa policies have become quite ridiculous lately - requiring a guarantee from an Irish sponsor, Gardai clearance, a non-refundable 100 Euro application fee and 6-8 weeks processing time. Of course, one can simply walk across the border from Northern Ireland without any checks. Just goes to show that there is no incentive to follow the law....

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson

Perhaps - DUB is more convenient (£30-£50 from BLK as opposed to £140+ from MAN), but I may be on holiday that weekend. Who knows!

[Edited 2004-10-06 23:44:08]


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User currently offlineAviationfreak From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1166 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

I don't like this at all. People are working very hard to solve the difficulties we have and now this. This makes it only more difficult for them. How childish!

Sander



I love both Airbus and Boeing as much as I love aviation!
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

...the Irish tourist visa policies have become quite ridiculous lately - requiring a guarantee from an Irish sponsor, Gardai clearance, a non-refundable 100 Euro application fee and 6-8 weeks processing time. Of course, one can simply walk across the border from Northern Ireland without any checks. Just goes to show that there is no incentive to follow the law....

That's strange. I got one earlier this year in Bombay and it was quite painless. They didn't want any spomsorship etc, nor did they want tickets or hotel reservations. The nice lady simply entered all kinds of info into a computer, took my money (about Rs 3,600) handed me back my passport and asked me to come back two days later. Took all of 15 minutes.


User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Just want to clear something up.

Don't blame Teehan for this. The mix up is my fault, not his. He planned a DUB meet after we moved the FRA meet to April, and then people started moaning because they wanted it in February. So please don't blame Teehan for this.

British767


User currently offline707CMF From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

hey hey... I might want to try the FR BVA-DUB line then...

But I will not decide until early Juanuary...

Cheers,

707


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter

Will have to wait and see a little bit longer, got to get time off work ect..ect. Still, hope to make it to DUB again, had a very enjoyable day there this summer.

Dan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

I got one earlier this year in Bombay and it was quite painless. They didn't want any spomsorship etc, nor did they want tickets or hotel reservations.

Most visas are significantly easier to get in India than elsewhere in the world, mainly because they process applications in such volume that "legitimate" frequent travelers with solid bonafides are shuffled along quickly. The same countries' missions in first-world countries though seldom have to deal with visa applications from locals and are hence immediately suspicious when a non-citizen comes in to apply.

I am still smarting from the note the Czechs sent me 3 years ago sayign that "we do not seek to encourage tourism visits by citizens of India, hence we are unable to issue you a visa at this time". Also the South Africans who wanted a US$1000 cash bond placed in escrow before they would issue me a visa. Or the Costa Ricans who insisted on a referred visa and $5000 bond to simply transit (not even transfer planes - just sit on the same plane on a through flight) through SJO. And of course the US whose visa procedure has been known to make grown men cry on a regular basis. None of which I will visit for personal reasons anymore, and Ireland is likely to join them if this nonsense continues.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Sorry, but I don't understand the problems of certain people. There is a meet at DUB and there is a meet at FRA.....so... everyone is free to decide where he/she wants to go!

This is not an "Our meeting has more attendees than your meeting" contest!

Patrick


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

This is not an "Our meeting has more attendees than your meeting" contest!

Unfortunately, I have the feeling that having two meetings at the same time will inevitably turn into such a contest, and will negatively effect the quality of both meets. Better keep it at one.



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk

Just remind me to leave my Rangers top at home  Wink/being sarcastic

BTW, Why are some people moaning about two meets? Either go to one or the other.



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
25 Shamrock_747 : I'm very interested in coming to DUB, may well combine it with a trip to County Louth to see some family. It's a shame that a date clash may occur but
26 Post contains images Pe@rson : Lord Pe@rson ( ) is here to give judgement on this matter. --- The fact that two meets are being organised and developed concurrently is, in my view,
27 Post contains images GKirk : Of course, Pe@rson advises you all to travel on that wonderful airline.... Aer Lingus
28 Post contains images Pe@rson : Nope! People can fly on whichever airline they like. Hell, even I fly BA and BD sometimes. Ooooops, shouldn't have said that, eh?
29 Post contains images GKirk : Pe@rson flies on real airlines? *GKirk drops dead* (Dont celebrate JGPH1A you b@st@rd!)
30 Jasepl : Most visas are significantly easier to get in India than elsewhere in the world, mainly because they process applications in such volume that "legitim
31 Chris78cpr : I think that the reason that LHR/MAN/AMS meets were fairly succesful was down to the fact that they wern't that large affairs. Now that everyone has s
32 JGPH1A : Re: *GKirk drops dead* (sings) Ding Dong the Pot-Bellied Gnome Is Dead, The Gnome Is Dead, The Grotty GNOOOOMEE is dead !! 'Tis the merriest day in al
33 Post contains images Pe@rson : LOL. It's very rare that I do, mind you, but hey. And I think the fact that FR is - and will probably always be - far more profitable than BA, BD and
34 JGPH1A : Here endeth the Gospel according to St Michael of the Holy Seat Cover - Thanks Be To Boeing. (oooh stone the blasphemer !).
35 Post contains images Pe@rson : LOL. You idiot.
36 Post contains images GKirk : Either that or Pe@rson is not actually the devils son....just an adopted love child of MOL?
37 Gordonsmall : Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec Perhaps: 707cmf Runway23 m
38 MYT332 : Well i'll go along if im not busy. Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepi
39 BestWestern : Place me down as a perhaps...
40 Post contains images GKirk : "Place me down as a perhaps... " To buy the first round?
41 MYT332 : Well i'll go along if im not busy. Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepi
42 GKirk : Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec Perhaps: 707cmf Runway23 m
43 Post contains images Sabena332 : GKirk (Will show you how to drink properly) I will do that too, let's see who of us is better . gordonismall (getting us all a bar tab after the first
44 B747-437B : The woman at the Indonesian embassy in Paris was a real bitch and demanded all kinds of things, including an actual ticket before she even considered
45 Post contains images A3204eva : I am still deciding on which meet to attend. DUB has a strong chance, as it is only 20 minutes across the sea If i do chose DUB over FRA, I will be fl
46 Jasepl : When did Ireland get a consulate in Mumbai anyway? I remember when I checked a couple years ago all applications had to go through Delhi. If its that
47 Aviationfreak : Please accept my apologies for what I said earlier in this thread. I usualy read the whole thread before I reply but I didn't this time so I missed Te
48 B747-437B : I am still smarting from the note the Czechs sent me 3 years ago sayign that "we do not seek to encourage tourism visits by citizens of India, hence w
49 Post contains images Mrniji : How silly. I remember when we travelled in the mid 90s to the Czeck republik (my parents had the Indian passport, me as only one the american), they g
50 Jasepl : Evidently India has reciprocated against the Czech Republic over visa policy Are you sure India retaliated over the Czech visa policy? Or was it reven
51 LO231 : Until I review Aer Lingus ID-discounts, count me in as a maybe for DUB, FRA would be too expensive with only LH flying out of BRU - monopoly issues? R
52 LO231 : As for now: Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec Perhaps: 707cm
53 Jetset7E7 : Aer Lingus is the cheapest at around £60 from MAN Ryanair is £90 for the same weekend! I am still a maybe on this meet Mark
54 UTA_flyinghigh : A number of DUB based members. This means a number of a.net photographers who do not have a forum username. Will
55 Post contains images LO231 : Hi there! I just found a Ryanair fare from Brussels/Charleroi to Dublin fo r64 EUR taxes included. Not bad, huh? I was just wondering if anybody knows
56 Pe@rson : 2 of FR's 4 daily flights between CRL and DUB are operated by CRL-based machines (read: 738s) and 2 are operated by DUB-based machines (read: 732s unt
57 UTA_flyinghigh : Btw I have enquired as to whether avisit of FLS Aerospace's installations would be possible - I'll keep you posted. Will
58 Post contains images LO231 : Thanks for the info, Pe@rson! That means when I come to the DUB meet, I'll be on a 738 inbound and on a 732 outbound (yay!) Do you think I should wait
59 Gordonsmall : As for now: Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec gordonsmall (W
60 Pe@rson : LO231 - well, there's currently no sale for Feb, but there could be later. That said, weekends don't normally feature in sales, so you'd be running a
61 Post contains images LO231 : Yeah, I know, but I was looking for the flights solely for the upcoming DUB meet
62 Mhodgson : Pe@rson - there is unlikely to be a sale for that weekend as it is also school holidays in the UK.
63 Chris78cpr : I can safely say that i am washing my hair that weekend! Chris
64 BA757 : The last place I will ever go is DUB - I hated the airport and Aer Lingus. I won't fly FR and I will probably never fly EI again (what a shit service,
65 Post contains images MYT332 : Chris, yea enjoy washing your hair in JFK. As for this: MYT332 (Who is only really coming cos he's got a gig as a second rate porn star in Galway on t
66 LO231 : Anybody thought about making any hotel bookings yet? As for now: Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of
67 ANstar : I'm also keen to come along but will decide beginning of Jan. Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DU
68 Teahan : Ok great to see this meet moving ahead. I'm a little busy with coursework these days which is why I haven't had much time to follow up thing here. Giv
69 Post contains images Runway23 : Well Guys Bad News My IB Mock Exams are from the 21-25st of February and no way I'm going to Ireland the day before. Instead wouldn't it be better to
70 Post contains images Sabena332 : I have time on every weekend in February, so no problem for me when the meeting is one week earlier or later. Btw: A few days ago I checked the fares
71 Teahan : Has anyone booked anything? Jeremiah
72 Post contains images Sabena332 : Has anyone booked anything? I wanted to book, as I already mentioned, but it was too expensive (too few miles for too much money), so I will non-rev,
73 Teahan : 707cmf has requested he be moved to the commited to showing up list: Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A numbe
74 Horus : I'd like to add myself to the perhaps list. I'm still thinking which meet I should go to, DUB or FRA. I've been to FRA several times but never to DUB,
75 UTA_flyingHIGH : I would like to know the exact date until January to find a good and cheap hotel (hard to find if you book only a week or so in advance). Patrick To a
76 ANstar : I might book soon, but want to be assured that it is going ahead on the dates specified as some earlier posts were asking if we had booked yet etc etc
77 Jetset7E7 : Just ot of interest, FR used a 738 on their afternoon flight to DUB 2day from MAN. Was surprised when that turned up. Didn't catch the reg tho. Mark
78 Post contains images UTA_flyingHIGH : I might book soon, but want to be assured that it is going ahead on the dates specified as some earlier posts were asking if we had booked yet etc etc
79 Post contains images Teahan : "Teahan - he lives there, rhaa." I don't know whee you got a mad idea like that from cause he most certainly does not. 19/20 February it is! Jer
80 Runway23 : Ok well seeing that it is definately 19/20 february, I won't be coming. A pitty really as had the meet been a week later I'm sure more people would ha
81 A3204eva : Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec gordonsmall (Who will not
82 Teahan : Committed to showing up: UTA_flyinghigh Sabena332 Pe@rson Teahan (myself) A number of DUB based members. Airplanepics mikec gordonsmall (Who will not
83 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Not booked them yet Teahan, just know which ones I will be booking when I next get paid Dan
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