Commander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1823 times:
As I started to read the link of what Mr. Hersh said, I stopped suddenly when I saw Berkeley as the location.
Mlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1643 times:
I didn't realize Berkeley was an irrelevant area in the US.
Just to the silent majority who oppose biased reporting.
I mean, for the right price I’ll fight a lion. - Mike Tyson
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15728 posts, RR: 47 Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
"Now you know Airplay."
LOL, I thought everyone knew that.
"Just to the silent majority who oppose biased reporting."
AKA those who admire Mao, Stalin, Castro, and Guevarra, but HATE those cold blooded murderers like Bush, Blair, and Starbucks.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
Ahhh Berkley.
The land of the left wing.
Remember this is the same town that wouldn't let their fireman put US flags on their Fire Engines in October of 01.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1510 times:
So the next time GWB gives a speech in New York City (or any of the "blue" states), I take it that you people will disregard his words?
Or if Seymour Hersh spoke at the University of Chicago (you know, that bastion of American economic conservatism - which I suppose doesn't matter to you people anymore because the GOP no longer stands for economic conservatism) or some dumbcluck Southern Fundie school then his words would get elevated to pearls of wisdom you'd all suck up?
Or is it just that any critique of GWB and his precious war, however valid, is ripe for ridicule and censorship?
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
No, it is just that Berkley is infested with Stupid people, who border on communist thinking.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
"No, it is just that Berkley is infested with Stupid people, who border on communist thinking."
Perhaps some are part of the loony left. But Berkeley is also one of the best academic institutions in the country, if not the world. With some of the best thinkers and researchers in the world, let alone some of the highest admission standards. Can't say that about Ol' Miss or the University of Alabama now, can you?
In any case, since when did the audience shoot the message or the messenger?
Or does the loony right just react in a pavlovian manner and foam at the mouth when Berkeley is mentioned. I thought that honor had been appropriated by Hillary?
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1480 times:
Berkley is promoted that way by the left.
There are much better schools.
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Corpsnerd09 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 448 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1459 times:
What's the point of arguing this.
You right wingers will never believe anything any leftwing media says, and consider the extreme right wing media to be "fair and balanced"
and
You left wingers will never believe anything any rightwing media says, and consider the extreme left wing media to be "fair and balanced"
here's a new flash.
NO MEDIA IS FAIR AND BALANCED! NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY CLAIM TO BE THEY'LL ALWAYS FAVOR ONE OVER THE OTHER!
Now leave some of that whinning for the debates.
If you really want to do it, you will find a way; if you don't, you'll make excuses.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1453 times:
"Berkley is promoted that way by the left.
There are much better schools."
LOL.
Oh yes, I'm sure the left influences those mighty standards of science, engineering, math and economics that Berkeley constantly bests. MIT, Harvard and Stanford are perhaps UCB's only competitors.
But then I doubt you'd make it into any of those, either. You know, if conservative "thought" were of such a fine caliber, then Ol Miss and Liberty University would be at the forefront of human achievement.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1443 times:
This isn't even an issue of right and left.
Its an issue of the VENUE where a speaker spoke. Since when did a VENUE negate a speaker's message. As I pointed above, if those standards were adopted, then every speech that Dubya made in that bastion of blueness - Manhattan - should be discredited.
Jeez, I watched Christopher Hitchens speak at Berkeley last year, and his pro-war stance while unpopular was contested and his audience was both combative and very well-informed. For those of you rightwingers who are clueless, Hitchens is the acerbic and very sharp writer who parted ways with the Nation on the issue of the Iraq War.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1397 times:
They just cut their heads off one by one.
Oh, sorry, that must have been justified because Mr. Hersh, the good people of Berkeley and our Canadian friends have been silent on the subject.
Sorry, but Seymour Hersh has exactly the same credibility as Rush Limbaugh.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
LHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 51 Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1378 times:
Wow. L188 is still worried about the communists! Sorry to go off topic, but that's priceless.
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20853 posts, RR: 55 Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
Wow, the level of denial is breathtaking!
Guys, if you can´t stand to find out what´s going on, why even bother throwing up a smoke screen like that?
These findings are not really new for the most part; And you´ll probably see more of it. It´s the consequence of a propaganda-driven war and in no way really untypical for that.
Qb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1137 times:
They just cut their heads off one by one.
Oh, sorry, that must have been justified because Mr. Hersh, the good people of Berkeley and our Canadian friends have been silent on the subject.
Well, I just saw GWB, a few minutes ago, talked about bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq. Those whose role it is to bring this plan about have no business killing innocents; it defeats their purpose. If you don't see that, please consult an optometrist.
But here we have an excellent example of the right-wingers killing the messenger, rather than to address the issue: are some US troops commiting atrocities in Iraq, yes or no? Unfortunatelly, it seems that the answer is yes.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1115 times:
Yes the speaker in Berkley is part of a propaganda war against the United States, One that I note you seem all too happy to take part in unfortunately.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
25 Klaus: L-188: Yes the speaker in Berkley is part of a propaganda war against the United States, One that I note you seem all too happy to take part in unfort
26 Commander_Rabb: Since when did a VENUE negate a speaker's message. HAHAHAHAHA! When it's BERKELEY. NEXT!
27 RT514: Interesting (albeit not surprising) read. Thanks for posting, Qb001. The fact that people are citing the location as a reason to attack the credibilit
28 Pacificjourney: RT514 you are obviously not keeping up with the news. It's no longer a 'war' it's now a 'policy initiative' ... which is pefectly fine.
29 RT514: It's no longer a 'war' it's now a 'policy initiative' ... which is pefectly fine. LOL! Thanks for the correction, Pacificjourney.
30 Captoveur: I had been avoiding this thread because I knew it would be stupid, but KROC is right, this one has it coming
31 Banco: I don't understand why anyone would be in such denial about the possibility of atrocities being committed by troops. In such a situation it's always l
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