Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1510 times:
So the next time GWB gives a speech in New York City (or any of the "blue" states), I take it that you people will disregard his words?
Or if Seymour Hersh spoke at the University of Chicago (you know, that bastion of American economic conservatism - which I suppose doesn't matter to you people anymore because the GOP no longer stands for economic conservatism) or some dumbcluck Southern Fundie school then his words would get elevated to pearls of wisdom you'd all suck up?
Or is it just that any critique of GWB and his precious war, however valid, is ripe for ridicule and censorship?
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
"No, it is just that Berkley is infested with Stupid people, who border on communist thinking."
Perhaps some are part of the loony left. But Berkeley is also one of the best academic institutions in the country, if not the world. With some of the best thinkers and researchers in the world, let alone some of the highest admission standards. Can't say that about Ol' Miss or the University of Alabama now, can you?
In any case, since when did the audience shoot the message or the messenger?
Or does the loony right just react in a pavlovian manner and foam at the mouth when Berkeley is mentioned. I thought that honor had been appropriated by Hillary?
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1453 times:
"Berkley is promoted that way by the left.
There are much better schools."
Oh yes, I'm sure the left influences those mighty standards of science, engineering, math and economics that Berkeley constantly bests. MIT, Harvard and Stanford are perhaps UCB's only competitors.
But then I doubt you'd make it into any of those, either. You know, if conservative "thought" were of such a fine caliber, then Ol Miss and Liberty University would be at the forefront of human achievement.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1443 times:
This isn't even an issue of right and left.
Its an issue of the VENUE where a speaker spoke. Since when did a VENUE negate a speaker's message. As I pointed above, if those standards were adopted, then every speech that Dubya made in that bastion of blueness - Manhattan - should be discredited.
Jeez, I watched Christopher Hitchens speak at Berkeley last year, and his pro-war stance while unpopular was contested and his audience was both combative and very well-informed. For those of you rightwingers who are clueless, Hitchens is the acerbic and very sharp writer who parted ways with the Nation on the issue of the Iraq War.
Qb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1137 times:
They just cut their heads off one by one.
Oh, sorry, that must have been justified because Mr. Hersh, the good people of Berkeley and our Canadian friends have been silent on the subject.
Well, I just saw GWB, a few minutes ago, talked about bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq. Those whose role it is to bring this plan about have no business killing innocents; it defeats their purpose. If you don't see that, please consult an optometrist.
But here we have an excellent example of the right-wingers killing the messenger, rather than to address the issue: are some US troops commiting atrocities in Iraq, yes or no? Unfortunatelly, it seems that the answer is yes.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.