FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4 Posted (8 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 3182 times:
At school, evey month we get this assigment to go poll people and get their thoughts about different vehicles. Some of you may remember the topic about the Hummer H2, this month is the Chevy Avalanche. In my opinion, it is a beautiful vehicle, maybe too big but still a very good looking vehicle. What are your thoughs, and if you own one, please post pic's!!! Thanks for the input!
-future
FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3159 times:
In my opinion, it's a really good idea. If you need more seats, then you can convert it into an SUV, If you needed to haul some wood for instance, you can turn it into the truck configuration. It's a great idea!
-future
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7673 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3149 times:
In general it is an interesting concept. The removable mid-gate is somewhat useful should you need to haul extra long cargo. However with the body cladding it has more plastic than the rubbermaid section at Walmart. Just looks plain goofy and cheap, especially for a truck that can easily cost more than $40k. With the cladding delete it looks like a regular normal truck, except for the goofy looking buttress.
Like L-188 I suspect that the Avalanche is the answer to a question nobody answered... most would find a truck or a full-sized SUV like the Suburban fully suited to their towing, hauling, getting groceries, and so on.
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Tristarenvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
I agree w/the bunch. It's a "Why?" that no one asked. The Silverado w/4 doors can do the same task. It's a novel idea, that drop down wall, but I'd go with a Suburban.
If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3091 times:
I think it looks good, if I could buy any vehicle the Avalanche would be fairly high on my list...
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PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7251 posts, RR: 25 Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3082 times:
Sure you can tow a boat, but if I need the seats, I would be better off with a Suburban or a Yukon. If I need the bed a pickup truck.
At today's prices, not everyone can afford both a pick-up truck and a SUV. The Avalanche allows the flexibility of being a large 5 to 6 passenger vehicle or of having a long bed of a pick-up truck in one vehicle.
My brother jokingly stated that the Avalanche was Chevy's new big sedan.
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Captoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3080 times:
It tries to be a truck, it tries to be an SUV, it fails at both.
To get the full use of the truck bed you have to fold down the back of the cab, lets see someome haul a load of mulch and make their leather interior smell like poo.
On top of all this it is just another ugly gas guzzler to be driven by people with penis, or other inferiority issues.
Tristarenvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3006 times:
And the sad thing IS, that without the cladding, it REALLY looks like just about every other truck around.
Personally, I like the cladding. And IF I had the use for one, I'd get a cladded model.
If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38485 posts, RR: 80 Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2996 times:
I think it's ugly and stupid!
The only people I see driving these are young punks that couldn't afford a H2.
If you need the truck capabilities such as towing, get a Ford F-350.
For towing and hauling, the Ford Excursion is a good idea.
For hauling kids and groceries, get a Busick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.
These are much better alternatives to the Avalanche.
FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2961 times:
Call me crazy, but i think the Avalanche is better looking than all the pictures above... This is great for my report! Keep the replys comming!
-future
Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2379 posts, RR: 34 Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2944 times:
I thought ford had cancelled the Excurion, but looking at ford.com it still shows it listed. Oh well.
I think the Avalanche is a nice looking truck in the right colors. Its gas guzzling, big and expensive.... but if people can afford it more power to them.
North County From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 712 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2938 times:
Superfly is forgetting that the 'Burb is better then the "X".
FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
Yeah, i must agree, in the perfect colors, it is a beautiful truck, but in the BLACK paint job, i think it's UGLY!
-future
FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2901 times:
Dc10guy, as much as i want too, i can't put that in my report...
-future
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38485 posts, RR: 80 Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2880 times:
FutureUApilot:
Trucks aren't supposed to be pretty.
Not only are the Fords ability to tow superior to the Avalanche but have a plain industrial look. That's what a truck is supposed to look like.
The overstyled Avalanche just appeals to young guys who can't afford an H2.
It's all about appearance and impressing there peers after a high school football game.
You will hardly see one towing a boat, cattle or concrete.
WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
These responses aren't surprising considering all the people who posted disparaging comments own automobiles that are probably collectively worth half that of an Avalanche. Not to say that the price of an automobile should be a barometer of how much to trust someone's opinion, but you see where I'm coming from. Claiming someone purchases a car/truck because of certain shortcomings sure reeks of many more shortcomings on the accuser's end.
It is what it is. If you want it, it suits your needs (whatever they may be) and you can afford it, get one. If not, don't. Same goes for any car or truck. It doesn't get much simpler than that.
You get all these people who say 'WHY?' You don't see them asking people why they bought an Accord when they could do the same thing in a Civic. Or why they bought an $80 coffee pot that can brew 12 cups instead of a $50 pot that makes 8 cups. That's why there are so many different types of cars and trucks, not to mention all the different brands of food or coffee pots. I'll buy what I want with my money, you buy what you want with yours. Or in Flight152's case, your parents buy you what they want and then you lie about buying it yourself.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38485 posts, RR: 80 Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2843 times:
WellHung:
I agree with you on your 3rd paragraph. I did make the mention of shortcomings above and I was basing it off of what I see here in California. Maybe the market is different whare you live.
Keep in mind, those who knock your vehicle aren't doing it out of envy. As you can see, the alternatives I mentioned cost just as much as your Avalanche.
I can certainly afford an Avalanche but I'd much rather spend that kind of money on flight school.
Hell ANYBODY can buy an expensive car as long as they have a co-signer or agree to pay high interest rates. That's why you see so many Escalades in the ghetto and I hate to say it Avalanches in trailer parks.
Car salesmen are desperate to make a sale. Ironicly the Escalade/Avalanche are one of the highest reposessed vehicles on the market.
It's much easier for me to ride the subway to work. Only the CEO gets a parking stall in the building I work in. Otherwise it's $25.00 a day parking downtown San Francisco.
As far as value of my car, high blue book value is $7,000 today, only $3,000 less than the original sticker price of $10000. Keep in mind this is in 1977 dollars.
Adjusted for inflation, $7,000 is about $30,000 today so my car has tripled in value.
I hate to say it but I doubt the Avalanche will be worth 3 times it's price in 27 years.
One good thing about the Avalanche is that you CAN get the Durex diesel engine (made by that Japanese company Isuzu).
Why did General Motors have to 'outsource' that job too?
Captoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2816 times:
"You get all these people who say 'WHY?' You don't see them asking people why they bought an Accord when they could do the same thing in a Civic. Or why they bought an $80 coffee pot that can brew 12 cups instead of a $50 pot that makes 8 cups. That's why there are so many different types of cars and trucks, not to mention all the different brands of food or coffee pots. I'll buy what I want with my money, you buy what you want with yours. Or in Flight152's case, your parents buy you what they want and then you lie about buying it yourself"
Accord over Civic:
interior room
$80 pot@12 cups vs $50 pot@ 8 cups:
Someone who only drinks a couple cups of coffee does not need 12 cup capacity. If this person cooks they know that 12 cup pot most likely takes up extra counter space in their kitchen, something that most of us wish we had more of. Also, the slightly more expensive pot may better match the kitchen, thus minimizing the bitching from the signifigant other. Also, there may be various additional features on the $80 pot, like a timer, or maybe it takes standard filters and the $50 pot does not.
I still fail to see the point of an Avalanche, especially with the massive engine option some people get, I guess they sure are glad they have all that power on the drive to and from work, alone, with gas over $2.00/USG in most of the country right now.
So hung, turn that thing into a "pickup" and try hauling a load of manure, I dare you. or maybe throw a couple toolboxes in the back and lift them in and out a few times a day. I am pretty tall and I have a hard time reaching in and out of that truck bed. But hey, if driving a totally useless vehicle around that pretends to be a truck and SUV makes you happy, go for it.
Congrats on yet another flight152 ass kicking, I would grant you an Arodvaritek but it is just too easy to beat him up over his(parent's) car.
Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2809 times:
We looked at the Avalanche, seems like over kill and didn't seem very rugged. We like our Silverado and Tahoe, it'll pay off this year in the snow.
So I guess what I'm saying is, if you want a truck, get a Silverado. If you want and SUV, get a Tahoe.
[Edited 2004-10-19 17:27:05]
25 PHLBOS: That's why you see so many Escalades in the ghetto... Ironicly the Escalade/Avalanche are one of the highest reposessed vehicles on the market. Actual
26 WellHung: Superfly, no one knocking the truck here owns the alternatives you suggested. And I don't plan on owning it in 3-4 years, let alone 27, so that doesn'
27 Superfly: WellHung: It's a long bizzar story how I got my car but to answer your question, no I didn't pay blue book value. Boeing7E7: if you want a truck, get
28 MHTMDW: This is my truck it is a 1973 International Harvester Wagonmaster. There is nothing new about a shortbed 4 door integral bed/body pickup. [Edited 2004
30 PHLBOS: As far as value of my car, high blue book value is $7,000 today, only $3,000 less than the original sticker price of $10000. Keep in mind this is in 1
31 Superfly: PHLBOS: The Diamond Jubilee Mark V might go for about $9,000 in immaculate condition. I can't see one going for $30K.
32 MHTMDW: Based on the chassis of its Travelall model, International introduced the Wagonmaster in September of 1972 as a 1973 model. It was marketed towards t
33 Captoveur: "Well that's nice that the Accord has more interior room, but unless you are a disgusting fatbody (are you?)," No, I am 6'4.. A little extra leg and h
34 FutureUApilot: SuperFly, Your aboslutely right, It is "spiced" up more than the Fords, but that's one of the reasons i like it. Impressing my peers has nothing to do
35 Superfly: MHTMDW: I like the last of the independant auto makes. I am huge fan of AMC also. I'd love to get an 1982-1984 AMC Eagle stationwagon Limited with the
36 Superfly: FutureUApilot: Well if you really want to impress the girls and haul some ass, show up at school in one of these. You can fit the entire cheerleading
37 L-188: IH's are tough trucks, although I would get the earlier body style, not the box. Too bad they don't make trucks like that anymore. Anybody go to the a
38 FutureUApilot: Oh yeah SuperFly, that's what I'll get! I think i'll stick with my '82 Dodge Rampage! -future
39 MHTMDW: Superfly: Glad you like it. It's not my daily driver, for that I have a used Toyota. Love the wagon pix you posted, my brother just bought a 1989 Buic
40 Superfly: FutureUApilot: You have a Dodge Rampage? The K-based pick up truck. I had a K-based Chrysler LeBaron convertible. Same frame, powertrain as your Rampa
41 Superfly: MHTMDW: I got these photos from stationwagon.com http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/gallery.html
42 FutureUApilot: SuperFly, Yep, it is my first car, bought it form my grandpa for $1. The engine is a 2.5. Something interesting about it, the horn goes for no reason
43 MHTMDW: L-188 you might like this one then: It's for sale on a well know auction site just a few hours left! 8311 original miles Superfly: I would hate to fil
44 L-188: Yup that's the body style. Prefer that to the 70's box.
45 Superfly: FutureUApilot: You are lucky to have the 2.5 engine. The 2.2 is trouble. Sorry I can't help you out on the horn. If the horn is on it's own fuse, tak
46 L-188: The trick with finding a decent AMC is to get one before smog controls became the rage. Everyone I have seem made in the 1980's was pretty much all ho
47 Superfly: L-188: A friend of mines has a 1984 AMC Eagle stationwagon. He is considering dropping in one of those last generation 258cu" EFI engines that came wi
48 L-188: I dunno, it seems pretty insane to do anything with an Eagle. Of course most of those up here are rusted out. They where pretty popular because of the
49 Superfly: L-188: My friend's Eagle is in great shape (exterior/interior). That engine needs a major overhaul. It's worth fixing up. Every yuppie has a damn Suba
50 L-188: Hard to believe those Eagles where yuppie cars at their time, just like volvo's.
51 MHTMDW: Superfly: "Collectible Auotmobile" magazine June 2004 edition has a 14 page article on the Wagoneer 1963 -1992. A must for any fan of these vehicles.
52 MHTMDW: L-188: Like this one? Why not put a Navistar 6.9 or 7.3 into it, that way it would be all International still. This is a fairly popular swap.
53 Superfly: My favorite pick up truck of all time would be the 1992-1997 Ford F350 crew cab dually with 7.3 diesel. Favorite SUVs would be the International Trave
54 FutureUApilot: Superfly, why is the 2.2 trouble, just for curiosity's sake... -future
55 L-188: Right idea MHTMDW, but looks like the wrong drivetrain. That one appears to be 2WD. Actually might as well and go modern and use the in production 8 l
56 MHTMDW: I'll have to find a pic of a 1960's Travellall 4x4. Ther are some beauties out there. Here is an IH Wagonmaster 3/4 ton 4x4: This chassis was rated to
58 Superfly: FutrureUApilot: Ware do you want me to start? The 2.2 I had was Turbo charged so that might be part of the problem. Engine fires and overheating were
59 L-188: Thats more like it, MHTMDW. After market rims need to go though.
60 Superfly: L-188: You have the right idea for a truck Superfly, except loose the dualies, unless you have a 5th wheel trailer. I'd only buy a truck like that if
61 L-188: Towing a 5th wheel justifies the dually. That and I don't think SFO gets the snow and iced up roads we get up here. It amazes me that people up here p
62 Superfly: L-188: Well if I get a truck it wouldn't be here in SFO. I still kick around the idea of moving to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or even Montreal or
63 FutureUApilot: Superfly: Yeah, i won't haul anything in it except for some drum set's every other week. It would have been awesome to have a desiel engine... oh well
64 Superfly: FutureUApilot: I guess the non-turbo 2.2 is OK as long as you don't put too much strain on it. A drum set is OK to haul in that Rampage. The 2.2 engi
65 FutureUApilot: Superfly: Yeah, kinda, i don't know much about him, but i have heard a little bit of his work. It won't recieve too much strain, never goes above 60 m
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