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Why Is Car Rental Age 25?  
User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

I am 19 years old, and I can't rent a car. I was looking into this topic, and most places are 25, 21 being the lowest. However, only New York state allows 18, but you can get up to a 70 dollar surcharge a DAY!!! Even if you are under 25 you could get an age surcharge.

Why???? I have never been in an accident, had a traffic ticket, or even been pulled over by a cop in my 3+ years of driving. I think it should be a case by case intstance if you are under 21. Do they really think that there are no responsible people <25 out there? I guarentee that not everyone >25 is nice to a rental car.

Was the age ever lower in the US?


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Age discrimination.
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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

I guess it coincides with the age that insurance premiums drop. Unfortunately, you and I may have great driving records but theres so many more in the 16-24 age group that don't. Just a case of some people ruining it for everyone.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13612 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3348 times:
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I'd imagine the main reason is because insurance companies begin giving lower insurance rates to people once they hit age 25 based on the propensity for those UNDER 25 to have substantially higher accident rates.




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User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5531 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Yes, indeed, it *is* "age discrimination," but is certainly not unlawful age discrimination.

It's all about statistical likelihood of accidents.

Sorry.



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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Its based upon statistical data derived from accident investigations showing that 25 year old (mainly males) are the highest risk factor when it comes to car accidents, therfore insurance companies and rental agencies have come to a mutual economic agreement to place that restiction on rental cars.


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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2448 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

I used to have to rent cars when I was under 25. With some companies (I think Budget was the most lenient)... you can rent when you are 21, but usually pay like a $20 a day surcharge. I remember Budget would actually waive that fee when the car was returned if I was able to show I was on a business trip (which I was).

As for why you have to be 25 or more... blame statistics. People under 25 are statisically the most dangerous.



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

I also can not understand this stupid requirement. A buddy and I spent our holidays twice in California a few years ago, unfortunately we could only chose "Budget" as our rental car provider because both of us were under 25 during this time, it sucked because other rental car companies where cheaper than Budget. At least we got upgraded both times to a Mercury Sable and a Chrysler Sebring Convertible respectively  Big thumbs up.

I think this "only over 25" rules applies on most rental car companies in every country.

Patrick


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

Strictly for insurance purposes. Many companies will rent to those 21-25 for only certain classes of vehicles with a surcharge. Normally you will need to call the rental agencies reservations number to get a clear answer. Often you cannot do this online. Some will rent 18-21, most won't. Again varies by state and by rental agency.


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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

I always rent from Hertz in Canada - even the day after I got my full license never had anything but good experiences and unexpected upgrades.

But in the states they are really tight-ass and refused to honor my reservation. But at least they got a competitor to honor the same rate, which was a nice gesture.

Now Hertz is supposed to charge $15 per day if you are between 21-25 in Canada, but I have still never been charged that fee.


User currently offlineORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3208 times:

Yep, this one falls squarely on the shoulders of the insurance companies. I know Michigan is another state that forces companies to rent to drivers under 25, but like NY they hit you with tons of fees. I have been told that Enterprise is pretty liberal about renting to drivers 18-25 but haven't had any personal experiences...has anybody else ever rented from them?

User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

Whats the name of that movie I'm thinking of? you know the one with the rental car bash up piece there? when they absolutely totaled the rental car and then claimed they "hit a dog"?




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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

"Now Hertz is supposed to charge $15 per day if you are between 21-25 in Canada, but I have still never been charged that fee."

Same thing happens with me too, they seem happy as long as you have a credit card.  Smile



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

"Whats the name of that movie I'm thinking of? you know the one with the rental car bash up piece there? when they absolutely totaled the rental car and then claimed they "hit a dog"?"

Uh...Jackass the Movie

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User currently offlineIllini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

Now here's the best part though-

When I was 16 I was allowed to take a $180,000 airplane halfway across the state all by myself. When I got to my destination, they GAVE me the keys to a new Silverado 3/4 ton to go get lunch on the other side of town. Without even seeing my driver's liscense (but I couldn't rent a car)

When I was 18, I rented at 26' moving van with no problem and drove it 1000 miles, through heavy city traffic and rural mountian roads. With absolutly no experience or training. Nobody batted an eye. Yet if I wanted to rent a $6,000 econobox to drive across town, it never would have happened.

Go figure! Gotta love insurence companies. 2 more years :^)




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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Males under 25 maybe a higher risk but if you take in to account accidents per miles driven, young men are the safest drivers.
That average accident rate for males under 25 maybe 2 per year but may drive 20,000 miles per year.
The average accident rate for females over 65 may only be 1 per year but only drive an average of only 500 miles per year.
So who is the higer risk driver if they are only renting a car for 1 or 2 days?

AARP would have a fit if insurance laws were based on accidents per miles driven.




Also insurance companies don't charge based on ethicity but we all know how some new immigrants from certain countries drive. I will not point any fingers and I hate to sound like my friend Matt D but I think you know what I am getting at.  Big grin
Just imagine the outrage if insurance companies charged based on that.



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User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

I'm also 19 and the age limit on car rentals is damn annoying. It's easier for me to travel to and get around in a foreign country than it is here in the car-dependent states. So sorry U.S. travel industry, when I decide to travel overseas ill go to a country where I can actually get around without a car.


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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1986 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

In australia, you (any ages) can rent the in any car rental companies but your driver license must be fully qualified.


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2968 times:
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It's not my falt that 20% of the population under 25 can't drive worth a damn, I don't feel it is right. Just cause someone under 21 can't drive doesn't mean I can't drive better. Ya ya it's statisitics but something should be devloped like a quick driving test or something to determine if your a safe driver.


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User currently offlineAzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 757 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2954 times:
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Iowaman, you're fighting a losing battle. I went through it, too, until I got old enough to where I could rent. Isn't it funny..."Wow, you hit 25...suddenly you're totally safe and we'd LOVE to rent you a car!!"

That's the way the insurance industry is...probabilities, actuarials, calculations of risk. You can complain "until you're blue in the face", but you can't do anything about it.

Not that it's fair...it's just the unfortunate reality!

A thought: how about if there were some sort of program to recognize good scholars, like some car insurance companies have...if you maintain a certain GPA, or some such requirement, you get a reduced rate, as they feel you're in a lower class of risk. That would seem to me to be more practical than giving a driving test to see if someone is a safe driver. How could a simple driving test at rental time prove anything definitively????



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User currently offlineMHTMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Long ago and far away... okay Iowa City, 1983, the Hertz franchise in town would rent to students 18+ with a 100 dollar cash deposit. In 1985 I rented from National at O'hare at the age of 20, but i needed a credit card

User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2944 times:
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Personally, I think they should raise the driving age to 30 for women, 35 for men. They shouldn't let them drink or vote either. And the minimum age for enlisting in the armed forces should be 50 -- that would take care of all the wars. What a peaceful world we'd have.


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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

If I made money by lending people my cars, I would charge stupid punk kids more than older adults, too. Lord knows his mommy and daddy are probably paying for it anyway, not to mention the lack of respect for other people's property.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

"If I made money by lending people my cars, I would charge stupid punk kids more than older adults, too. Lord knows his mommy and daddy are probably paying for it anyway, not to mention the lack of respect for other people's property."

WOW! I agree 100%.

and for this one...

"Age discrimination.
Get out in vote in large numbers so you aren't f--ked with."


ROFLMAO.... Vote? What, is there a ballot initiative against Hertz and Avis?


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

"If I made money by lending people my cars, I would charge stupid punk kids more than older adults, too. Lord knows his mommy and daddy are probably paying for it anyway, not to mention the lack of respect for other people's property."

Considering I'm under 25, have never had an accident or speeding ticket, and am paying for my own car rental with my own credit card I don't think I should be charged the ridiculous extra fee. I could live with a one time extra fee, but not an added $20/day. Too bad there wasn't a way for rentals to quickly check for demerits on licenses before they rent.

Not only that, but the only near accidents I've been in were because of either some 40 something jackass corporate climber hotshot wannabe in his sedan riding my ass, or...you guessed it... Woman in an SUV or Minivan.

I love how people justify higher rates for young males by saying "statistically they get in more accidents". We all know if it was reversed young women would NOT be getting charged more, that would be sexual discrimination  Insane



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25 Superfly : Rent from Budget rental car. They are the best. Lowest rates on Lincoln Town Cars and Mercury Grand Marquis.
26 KYIPpilot : I love how people justify higher rates for young males by saying "statistically they get in more accidents". Get this. One of my friends is 28 years o
27 Post contains images Ltbewr : There may be exceptions in the USA as to car rentals to those under 25 (but probably over 21) if your rental is a temporary replacement for insurance
28 AzoresLover : KYIPpilot - You've stated very eloquently why most people absolutely HATE insurance companies. Unfortunately you really can't live without coverage. T
29 JeffM : "Rent from Budget rental car." EWW! I rented from Budget once. BIG mistake. Long lines, funky smelling car, no Neverlost, etc. And the Town Car was a
30 Anxebla : JeffM.... I agree with you.I prefer to use big companies, like Avis, Europcar or Hertz. Like DesertJets say, the limit age is due an insurance purpose
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