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Ashley's Story  
User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

http://www.ashleysstory.com

This TV ad was just aired on NBC 12 in Jacksonville, FL. It's quite possibly one of the best and most touching political ads Ive ever seen in my life.


Any comments? Just thought I'd share something that wasnt considered negative campaigning or mudslinging.


Fly Delta's Big Jets!
56 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2698 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

I'm not a believer that ads such as this are very effective -- they are too narrowly focused on something and not many facts to vote on. The Bush campaign could probably have spent their money and energy a bit better by making another ad instead of this.

Nick


User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

Wasnt paid for by the Bush Campaign.

(filler)



Fly Delta's Big Jets!
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

http://www.ashleysstory.com

- This way I can read what you all are talking about......



Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

That was hilarious. Got any more like that ?


" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6001 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

Geez, looks like Dubya is trying to choke her the way her holds her  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

I find it kind of pathetic that politicians are using someones tragedy to get sympathy votes.



User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1755 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

DTWclipper:

i think you are forgetting (or maybe just ignoring) the fact that this ad was NOT paid for by the Bush campaign




"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Jderden777

Click on the "spread Ashley's Story" link....sure looks like a candidate to me!

https://secure.securecontribution.com/voterfund/contribute1.jsp


Linked to:

http://www.progressforamerica.com/pfa/


Lets us not be Blind to the fact of what this really is.


User currently offlineMattCLE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Good detective work, Dtwclipper!  Big thumbs up

-Matt


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

i think you are forgetting (or maybe just ignoring) the fact that this ad was NOT paid for by the Bush campaign

Of course it wasn't. It was paid for by one of those 527 groups exploiting a loophole in the McCain-Feingold act which allows soft money contributions to pour into the campaign through the back door. You can also be sure the Bush campaign knew about it and at least tacitly supported it.

Using human tragedy to push a political agenda disgusting and outrageous. It's little more than a sad commentary on how low this campaign has sunk.

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Clipper is right. Josh Marshall had a story about this too http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_10_17.php#003730

Here you can see all the ads they are currently running, including Ashley's http://www.pfavoterfund.org/

It's a pathetic way to try and gain money and votes, IMHO.



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2516 times:



It's a good story, and certainly isn't supported by Bush or the Republican party.....so deal with it. Kerry can't get support like this.

Thanks for sharing it, 312RC.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineNW747400 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Yes indeed thanks for sharing this 312RC! As far as the other comments complaining about someone's suffering being used as a campaign tool, see deltaguys statement.
NW747400


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

DeltaGuy:

Who do you think Progress for America Supports?

And why is it you 16-20 year old right wingers can't accept the truth about your party without replying with vulgarities?


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

He cares so much, it only took 3 years for him to 'comfort' her. Nice job Mr. President.

User currently offlineNW747400 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

It's ok wellhung I understand being a liberal you have to do your best to discredit everything that might be good about the president, but as far as this is concerned he comforted her I haven't seen Mr. Kerry comfort her  Insane
NW747400


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

I understand being a liberal you have to do your best to discredit everything that might be good about the president

What good?


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

What good?

Indeed.

Did she go to any Kerry campaign rallies?  Insane

[Edited 2004-10-20 21:38:56]

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Wellhung,

Better Question...Did her handlers ask her where she wanted to go, or just manipulate her?


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Good question. One more - how much did they pay her father?

[Edited 2004-10-20 21:42:56]

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Ah, like the true value of Enron, we may never know!

User currently offlineNW747400 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Who'd wanna go to one of those?? We all know he served in Vietnam, and we know he doesn't think this is the right war at the right time  Insane. If you know that there's really not much going on at his rallies  Insane
NW747400


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

We all know he served in Vietnam, and we know he doesn't think this is the right war at the right time

Hey 747....it looks like your catching on. When you're old enough to vote (unless your drafted before then) we can count on your support. Those Liberal views of yours are wonderful!


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2395 times:

I wouldn't want to go to ANY presidential rally... but what's going on at the Bush rallies? Is it one big comfortfest or does he lie first, then proceed to the comfort phase? Lord knows with what he's done the past 4 years, a lot of people need a lot of comforting.

25 Ctbarnes : As far as the other comments complaining about someone's suffering being used as a campaign tool, see deltaguys statement. Which one? If it was the of
26 Post contains images NW747400 : No wellhung he does something apperantly unknown to John Kerry. It's called talking about your plan for the next four years Imagine that not just com
27 Continental : Don't give me that crap, it was obviously for publicity. Bush uses stupid crap like this to gain the votes of the idiots.
28 NW747400 : Ctbarnes, No not the picture. This statement "so deal with it. Kerry can't get support like this." NW747400
29 WellHung : That's what I said. He lies first.
30 Post contains images NW747400 : Continental, "Bush uses stupid crap like this to gain the votes of the idiots." So if I understand you correctly, Anyone who votes for Bush is an idi
31 NW747400 : "That's what I said. He lies first." Thats your personal opinion. Plus pure speculation. Your assuming all the crap about "he knew Iraq didn't have W
32 WellHung : NW747400, if you were old enough to vote, you would fit into that group. You don't understand him correctly.
33 Dtwclipper : Continental: You must learn to take the high road with the right wingers, they will burn themselves in the long run. It's always best to play nice wit
34 WellHung : No, no, he lies. You probably don't understant THAT correctly, either.
35 NW747400 : I understand him just fine. I will be old enough to vote next time around, and just because I can't vote yet doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. No
36 Dtwclipper : WellHung: I know he lies. I just like watching them back their rightwing behinds into corners, without being vulgar. dtwclipper
37 WellHung : The group referred to in Continental's original post. You still don't understand him correctly. Are you having a difficult time with reading comprehen
38 Commander_Rabb : Awesome ad, awesome girl, awesome country, awesome President. BUSH on NOVEMBER 2nd for all the right reasons.
39 NW747400 : "It's always best to play nice with them, because when you corner them, all the can do is swear and use vulgar pictures." I don't use vulgar launguag
40 Post contains images WellHung : Dtw - my post was directed at our 13-15 year old wannabe republican campaign hack, not you.
41 777236ER : awesome country, Presumably you don't like the majority who voted for Gore in the last election?
42 NW747400 : "Must be one of the children left behind..." Wellhung I don't go to public school. I still do not understand why you guys lower yourselves to persona
43 NW747400 : "The group referred to in Continental's original post." Oh ok so your callin my parents ( who are voting for Bush idiots)? Like I stated I don't like
44 Qb001 : Still can't make up my mind as the tear that I'm suppose to shed (sp?) should fall from my left eye or my right eye...[Edited 2004-10-20 22:25:50]
45 NW747400 : "The group referred to in Continental's original post." Oh ok so your callin my parents ( who are voting for Bush) idiots? Like I stated I don't like
46 WellHung : If your parents are voting for Bush because of ads like this one, then yes. If they were voting for Kerry because of some moveon ads, they would also
47 NW747400 : My parents are not voting for Bush because of an add like this. I understood what he meant. I didn't understand what group you put my parents in. NW7
48 WellHung : So you understood what he meant, but you lie and try to spin it so it appears he is calling all people who vote for Bush idiots? They sure are brainwa
49 Post contains images NW747400 : Nice try to paint me as a liar, but I didn't understand what YOU meant. Again nice try NW747400
50 Lehpron : I think it is cute that we couldn't help with the mudslinging once more. Allow me to interject: >>"I find it kind of pathetic that politicians are usi
51 Continental : After 8 posts, NW747400 finally gets it. Woohoo!
52 Post contains images NW747400 : After two posts Continental is still stooping to personal insult. Appearantly he has absolutely nothing useful to say NW747400
53 WellHung : No, he still doesn't get it. And now he's so confused what with the parents and all, he can't even realize he doesn't get it. Continental: "Bush uses
54 Continental : "No, he still doesn't get it." Apparently so, I wonder how long it will take!
55 Falcon84 : It's a good story, and certainly isn't supported by Bush or the Republican party.... Bullshit. Is that why Ashley and her family are in a Bush for Pre
56 N6376m : Couple of points: #1 - never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Remember Al Gore frenching Tipper at the DNC. It immediately gave him
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