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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

It seems that people who watch "Fox News" know less of what ACTUALLY happens in the world than people who watch other channels like CBS, ABC etc. How? "Fox News" lie to you...! "Fox News" say: "We report, you decide". That is wrong! "We decide, and you do as we say" should be the real slogan.
So why do you watch it??????????????????????????

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

I don't have cable so I can't watch it.


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User currently offlineCorpsnerd09 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

too bad L-188, you'd love it.


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Hate that pissant O´Reilly  Laugh out loud

Micke//SE



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

I probably would.

It sure would be better then My Socialist News Broadcasting Company, Clinton's News Network, See-BS and the others.

Of course some of our European freinds who have grown up watching left wing news only recognize that at centerist.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2008 times:

It seems that people who watch "Fox News" know less of what ACTUALLY happens in the world than people who watch other channels like CBS, ABC etc.

Please back your statement up with facts.......!!! Where did you get your information, what are you baseing this on..??



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

It's an ASSumption he's making. Just like the rest of the lemmings. Fact is, informed watchers also watch MSNBC and CNN. It's called being informed by both sides.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

I love to see those "facts" backed up...... Should be good for a laugh.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

While I unfortunately cannot watch anything more than the webcasts on the Fox News website, I find it a valuable source of information. If you watch CNN, and then the report on the same incident on Fox, there will frequently be little tidbits of information that got left out of CNN's report, because it did not fit their editorial slant.

And a poll from the FT seems to indicate that it is in fact more balanced than other stations, in terms of how many people from either side of the spectrum trust it. Taking the poll numbers on credibility, it appears to be 5 points to the right of center. CNN is 19 points to the left, NBC is 13 points to the left, ABC is 18 points to the left, and CBS is again 19 points to the left of center. The difference to you might be striking because you are not used to hearing news that is not so left-leaning, which you now think is fair. It's called brainwashing, and the media have done it for years.



All the networks should be watched, and the more diverse their opinions, the better. It is impossible to be entirely objective on all issues, so the best you can do is watch all of them, and know that the real truth is somewhere between the two.

Charles


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

I've actually watched all major news networks of the US.

Yes, it's true that MSNBC skews pro-left, Hardball is harsher on conservatives than liberals. It's true that FOX skews pro-right, Hannity and Colmes is dominated by Sean Hannity's daily GOP fillibusters. CNN? They used to be left of center but ever since Fox News rose they have tamed somewhat to compete. That is not the problem IMO, and I've mentioned this before. Private companies should be allowed to spouse whatever ideologies they wish.

The problem is that the US media claims to be fair and objective. And they go further: they actually boast on being more objective than media in the rest of the world, and they call European media 'biased'. I've heard this certainly on FOX, also on MSNBC, less so on CNN but nontheless have.

That's were they cross the line. US media is not fair and objective, end of story. If you watched only them, you would conclude that the United States is always right and everyone else is always wrong... The US must be populated by a race of infallible Gods. That's just pathetic. I can give 10 examples of this. They do a good job on investigative stories, like the UN corruption, etc, but do no investigations at all of their own local corruption.

Currently, European media has anti-American tones, at least from what I have watched, though much of that is more anti-Bush than anti-American (which in a way can't be separated). I can't say if Euro news outlets are claiming to be fair and objective, but if they are they are wrong too.



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User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1898 times:
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Well, once again CFalk has re-earned his respect rating from me. I am a person who will happily stand and refute your claim that Fox News viewers are misinformed and stupid.

The slant from CNN grew more obvious over the last six or seven years and can be identified with their editorial decisions including the Tailwind episode, to which I can speak as I met the guy prior to all that and knew after 5 minutes he was full of crap. The political bent of the producers at CNN has been well known and creeps, hell sometimes it flows into their stories.

I do agree with the above poster who said one must search through all the channels to see what stories are being slanted and which way. Usually the only reliable means to verify is to find out the common things being said by all.

I have found Fox News to be the ones that point out factual parts of stories not reported by other news agencies that seem to affect how the story will be interpreted. No one does this with Fox, as they usually don't leave out pertinent facts. THeir editorial and feature players come from both ends, and there are not many hardcore political operatives who work in the media while working the media. At least Fox's commentators don't play both sides of the reporting fence. I think it is nothing more than a political endorsement to employ a paid political operative of one side or the other. Talk show hosts who owe allegiance to the network and their viewers of either political persuasion are one thing, paid advisors to the Kerry campaign working for CNN is another.



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

I agree with Jeff..........let's see some backing to these statements of yours.

I'm ready for a laugh as well.



-NWA742


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

I'll take MSNBC over FAUX News anyday. Nothing I hate more than slanted news channels, and I feel that MSNBC is the least slanted of them all IMO.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Nothing I hate more than slanted news channels

Really, Usairwys757? Then you must hate CNN just as much as FOX, huh?



-NWA742


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Just about as much NWA, CNN becomes more Liberal slanted everyday. I cant hardly watch it anymore, even though I'm a Democrat.

User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3312 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

None of your global news channels is really interested in journalism.
All of them are huge conglomerates targeting audiences and making their advertising time as sellable and as expensive as possible.
Business interests are what colors your screens, not apolitical journalism or the primitive "just reporting what I saw with my two eyes", especially in these highly "patriotic" times. End of story.

CNN has followed an interesting center>right>center>left navigation in the last years. I guess all their anchormen/women have gone through regular retraining courses.
Fox employees on the other hand remained straight on their course, just past the edge of the tolerable.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

Just about as much NWA, CNN becomes more Liberal slanted everyday. I cant hardly watch it anymore, even though I'm a Democrat.

I'm honestly very surprised to here that coming from you.




-NWA742


User currently offlineNancy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 467 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf This is probably the study that Bofredrik is referring to, sorry I can't cut and paste, it's a PDF. In general the study analyzes people's beliefs about the reasons for going to war with Iraq - cooperation with Al Qaeda, WMDs as well as world opinion of the US. The Fox viewers had the most misperceptions. More of them thought that there were proven strong ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, that we had found large stockpiles of WMDs and that world opinion was much higher of the US than it really is. They also analyzed the results accounting for education and political affiliation. It's actually pretty interesting.

User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1761 times:

I'll stick to only watching the Daily Show for my news on the television, otherwise I'll get my news from the Associated Press online.


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User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Even if the alleged bias exists (which I think it doesn't), why would it be a bad thing? In my opinion, a bias is good, because it forces you to think, and consider the validity of statements.

Regards



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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

My beef with Fox News isn't its slant.. it's the fact that it's not really news.

All Fox News has done is to televise talk radio.

Take your everyday newscast.. it *used to go* something like this:

Anchor: "Today in Bosnia, there was... from Sarajevo, here's...." and you'd see a story from Bosnia.

Then..

Anchor: "In other news, there was an election today in Mexico.. from Mexico City, here's...." and you'd see a story from Mexico.

Basically, the news gave you the news. What Fox News does is closer to this:

Anchor: "Stunning developments today in the Scott Peterson trial.. we're going to spend the next 15 minutes with four 'experts' to tell us what they think about it." Inevitably, those people will end up arguing. And everyone likes to watch people argue with each other - that's why reality tv is so popular.

After those 15 minutes are up, you'll get this:

Anchor: "John Kerry attacked the President's position on Iraq today... We're going to spend the next 15 minutes with four more 'experts' to 'analyze' today's events."

So, in actuality, it's not Fox News, it's Fox Opinion. To be fair, it may not be their opinion - though oftentimes it is - but it's someone's. This is the same format that a lot of local talk radio programs have used for some time now.

The problem is this: that format has become so popular it's the standard.. now CNN does the same thing.

If you think I'm way off here, watch either of those networks for one hour and count how many times you hear the phrase "I think".

Meanwhile, real news is relegated to a 60 second "hop around the globe." At this rate, we're going to see a resurgence in the popularity of newspapers, because some of us actually want to find out what's going on without an "I think" from somebody else.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Watch TV and you become dumber, period.

User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

I heard an interesting comment from Jon Stewart from the Daily Show (Comedy Central). I don't have a direct quote, but he said something like "The media isn't liberal...its lazy".

He is so right. The fact is, newspapers and television news shows are interested only in ratings. Their constant race for market share is the source of the nuttiness, not any liberal or conservative bias.



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

And explain to me why the so called "moderate mainstream US media" refuses to show the "Stolen Honor" documentary that shows how Kerry's Perjurous testimony about the Vietnam war was used by the Gooks to torture our servicemen being held prisoner.


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

L-188:

I don't see them showing Farenheit 9/11 either.


25 L-188 : Well there is a good reason for that. Moore's picture isn't based on reality, truth, facts or history. This one is.
26 Post contains images Solnabo : According to Aftonbladet today O´Reilly had a threesome w SAS stewardess and he´s been siud for lots of $$$$$$$$$!!! Hope he gets busted, that pompu
27 Cfalk : O'Reilly IS a pompous asshole, that much I'll give you. But he's usually a CORRECT pompous asshole. Charles
28 FLVILLA : FOX news is just not professional enough for me, i don't like the way in which they take the piss out of other countries and act as if they are of cou
29 OO-VEG : Aftonbladet?? Now THAT'S a newssource to be proud of!! They'd better change it into Skvallerbladet. I guess you'd be better of with FOX then!
30 Dl021 : How do you get Fox News Channel in Europe? Is it commonly available instead of Sky NEws on the satellite networks? I am wondering because there are ce
31 OO-VEG : I don't have FOX. Last time I heard about them was when the local news showed that they have put the FOX channell next to the toilets at the Democrati
32 Dl021 : Anyone else, or are our European members dogging Fox News without seeing it? It would not be unprecedented...I remember Solnabo having F911 as part of
33 JAXpax : Despite being a Republican, I dislike Fox News. I find the stories disjointed and find they spend far too much time promoting themselves. I prefer to
34 Banco : DI021, not instead of Sky News, as well as. In the UK, at least, you can get Fox News on digital satellite and cable. I don't doubt for a second that
35 OO-VEG : Believe it or not but the Dutch TV broadcasted a US documentary about FOX yesterdayevening. (see: http://www.outfoxed.org/). So It's time for some mor
36 Thecoz : IMO, Fox news does promote itself way too much. I don't like how they report the news either. They dumb it down like you're a 5 year-old. Whenever I w
37 Captoveur : "According to Aftonbladet today O´Reilly had a threesome w SAS stewardess and he´s been siud for lots of$" Depending on what they looked like, it ma
38 Iakobos : Dl021, For your information, this side of the world is covered by a couple of dozen DTH satellites. Besides tv channels targeting their domestic audie
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