Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1349 times:
Contrary to popular belief in the United States, Rifkin says, all these social guarantees have not stopped Europe from competing successfully in the global marketplace. The European Union is the largest exporting economy in the world. The EU's $10.5 trillion GDP exceeds that of the United States. In many industries, European enterprises have overtaken American businesses (think of Airbus and Boeing). Europeans are pretty good at saving money while the American economy teeters precariously on a mountain of foreign-owned debt. And, even with those shorter work hours and long vacations, European workers' productivity now matches or exceeds that of Americans.
We may think they are nuts to pay such high taxes, but they think we are crazy to work so hard and have so little time to enjoy life. Rifkin thinks Europe may be the new model for the world. What do you think?
In my opinion the US economy and it´s free market ideals are already changing at this moment... so are the minds of its population..
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7949 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1178 times:
Well talking about Andorra ... there could indeed be a lack of freedom and happiness. But living in Stockholm shouldn't be that bad.
Back to the topic: I dislike those thoughts about how one country or a union of countries can form a role models for other nations. Liberty, safety, freedom, democracy, equal rights and - yes - happiness are global values but not the European or Us American understanding of social welfare or taxation.
Sebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1090 times:
The people's mind in the USA is still very odd seen from an European point of view.
Just look at their president, he wouldn't have a slight chance in Europe, especially with BS like "God gave me the mission ...".
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1080 times:
Some of the points about Europe vs. the United States are interesting, but I'd be rather less suspicious if the source were someone other than Jeremy Rifkin. He's the sort of person who's made a career out of saying and writing how bad American society is.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Rabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 1007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1055 times:
from my experiences living in the US vs. germany i am tempted to state the following thesis:
if you are part of the top 15 % (income, intelligence, education...), living in the US is probably better than living in germany. you have lower taxes and you can afford a superior lifestile.
if you are a part of the rest (or even the lower 15%), germany would be a better place to live. in germany, the rich are forced to subsidise a better lifestile of the rest of society. you dont have to worry about health insurance (and from my personal experience, i can tell you that the german socialised medicine is in an extremely good shape compared to average american services), you dont have to work that much, i actually think you have more freedom just because of that.