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Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry  
User currently offlineTechrep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Chuck Noe, NewsMax.com
Saturday, Oct. 23, 2004

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/22/152415.shtml


Sen. John Kerry’s decision to have Bill Clinton and Al Gore campaign for him could cost him the election if recent history is any indication.

Clinton’s campaign appearances and the disastrous mismanagement of handpicked party boss Terry McAuliffe led to the Democrats’ unprecedented losses in the midterm elections of 2002. Among the Democrat casualties of the Clinton machine: New York gubernatorial nominee Carl McCall and Florida gubernatorial nominee Bill McBride.

Then his “assistance” backfired and helped oust California Gov. Gray Davis last year.

Gore’s record of harmful “help” is almost as abysmal. Remember less than a year ago when everyone had all but crowned Howard Dean as the Democrat presidential nominee? Then Gore endorsed him.

“I actually do think the endorsement of Al Gore began the decline,” Dean told CNN in February.

Despite his own former boss’ similar taint, ex-Clintonista Paul Begala sniped to the New York Times, “I suppose people are going to be running away from Al Gore the way the devil runs away from holy water.”

So why isn’t Kerry running from Clinton and Gore as hastily as he’s trying to flee his Senate record? The aloof Massachusetts blueblood does not have a stranglehold on the black vote and thinks his emissaries can deliver it for him.

The ex-president's campaigning is "less likely to mobilize anti-Clinton sentiment than it is to mobilize Democratic constituencies like African-Americans, who've been lagging in their enthusiasm for John Kerry," said Doug Schoen, who was Clinton's presidential pollster.

The Associated Press noted Friday: "Still, all the talk about Clinton's allure with black voters may be overstated. His share of the black vote - 83 percent in 1992 and 84 percent in 1996 - was less than that of every other Democratic presidential contender since John F. Kennedy."

TechRep



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Definately Gore has absolutely no weight, and could actually be a detriment to the Kerry campaign. I would not be so sure about Clinton. Whatever else he may be, he is one hell of a good speaker, and his rejoining the campaign at the last minute (combined with a little sympathy for his recent heart problems) might be worth a point or two.

Charles


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8471 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2033 times:
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I just saw Clinton on tv in Philadelphia....I wish this election was over....


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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Funny because in 2000 everyone said Gore would have won if he had Clinton campaign for him, especially in a state like Florida. Gore, afraid of getting moral criticism from Bush, pretty much didn't have Clinton campaign for him. And it cost him the election. John Kerry would be stupid to make the same mistake. Clinton is still wildly popular and would be elected instantly if he could run again.

User currently offlineNUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Clinton still has a higher popularity rating than both Bush and Kerry so I'm not sure how he would hurt Kerry. I don't think Terry McAuliffe is going to have anything to do with Kerry and this election.

As for Gore, I doubt anyone really cares. Besides C-Span 2, he isn't getting a whole lot of coverage anywhere.

"His share of the black vote - 83 percent in 1992 and 84 percent in 1996 - was less than that of every other Democratic presidential contender since John F. Kennedy"

I think Kerry will take that 84% any day of the week. I would doubt that he has the same popularity amongst minorities as Clinton does.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Keep in mind that almost everyone Clinton's endorsed for high office has LOST!

The latest example thereof being Gray-out Davis.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6057 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Of course, using Newsmax, a well-known republican news outlet, makes this thread all the more credible  Insane

User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6057 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Of course, using Newsmax, a well-known republican news outlet, as a source, makes this thread all the more credible  Insane

User currently offlineNUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Gray Davis was never allowed to run after the recall, it was against California law for him to re-take his post.

The problem for the democrats in CA was that they had about 20 candidates running for Governor and all their votes were divided while the republicans concentrated on getting Arnold in power. I don't know what that has to do with Clinton.

As far as other candidates he helped Doyle win as governor in Wisconsin as well as Feingold in the Senate his wife also won the senate seat in NY. I think Clinton has had a very substantial impact on quite a few races but maybe not as much on others.

But as far as strategy I would think he has a much better appeal amongst minority voters over Kerry.... who knows



"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4130 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

The latest example thereof being Gray-out Davis.

Gray Davis was a different matter as a large number of Californians (Democrats included) didn't like him and his policies.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4130 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Notice Kerry's interesting hand gesture in this pic? Is that ASL or Punk Rock?  Big grin




"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

I dunno about that pic.. doesn't that look kind of like the sign of Satan? Is Kerry trying to discretely get some support from the ever-powerful underground Satanist lobby?  Big grin

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

Could be, especially considering Kerry's ties to Satanism.




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User currently offlineTechrep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

And.....I repeat, kiss of death.

TechRep


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

L-188 - nice Photoshop smear.


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