Cessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 18 Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
As someone who follows the american election process very closely, I'm wondering how many times in the past has it occured that a candidate, although clearly trailing during a campaign, has ended up winning the election in a so-called "upset"?
Since the beginning, it would seem that George W. Bush has been the leader in the polls. Is there still a chance for a Kerry Victory?
The only upset, or semblance to one I can think of is the Kennedy/Johnson victory of 1960 against Nixon/Lodge. A good article on this here:
Cessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1857 times:
I though there was another one. Yes, Truman certainly did "give 'em hell" on that one. The democrats would be so lucky to pull a Truman in the upcoming elections; of course, this years case would in no way be as spectacular as the 1948 win. Interesting fact that Newsweek had polled 50 journalists with regards to the winner and they all pegged Dewey!
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
As a close observer of the election process, observe even closer this week! The slightest mistake by either, or an event beyond their control can tip it either way.
Rehnquist...the missing explosives (which hopefully won't be used in an attack in Iraq in the next 7 days)...ANYTHING.
This is Bush's election to lose...and while the smart money is on him to win reelection...be smart...don't put a lot of money down. He had something like 88% approval in Sept/Nov. 2001...and through mistakes big and small, he's right at 50%, depending on which poll you're following. If Bush maintains that 50% through next Monday, he's set. If it drops to 45% or so, Mr. Bush will be on a nonstop to Crawford on 1/21/05.
I hope for the sake of our national security that President Bush is reelected next Tuesday. God forbid John Kerry wins and we have to ask France or (worse) Kofi Annaan at the UN for approval first before protecting ourselves.
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13615 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
The 1948 Truman-Dewey race is one of the great upsets of all time in the USA. Truman was Vice President in the last term of FDR, and took over only a few months after FDR took office after the start of his 4th term as US President. Truman was a senator from Missouri prior to being chosen as VP in the 1944 election. He was chosen as he went after war profiteeirs and people whom didn't meet military contract standards as a Senator. He was the President who - for better or worse - made the decision to drop the atomic bombs in Japan. As acting Presidnet, he made the first steps in racial desegeration in the USA, by desegerating by race the US Military and was the force behind the USA to be the 1st major nation to recognize Isreal. In the run up to the election of 1948, Truman was way behind - 12-15% points behind Dewey, who was a state Proscuter in Manhattan, NYC and then Governor of NY State. Truman then went on a long train campaign tour, he bertated the 'do nothing' Republican dominated Congress, and won by a significant margin.
The 1960 JF Kennedy (D) vs. Nixon (R) race was one of the closest until the 2000 election. Supposdly, the 'dead' voted from their graves in the Chicago area of ILL for Kennedy, and thus won with other states, enough to badly beat Nixon in terms of electorial votes. The popular vote margin for Kennedy was estimated at about 200,000, or about 1 vote for each voting district in the USA at the time.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21599 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1837 times:
StevenUhl777: I hope for the sake of our national security that President Bush is reelected next Tuesday. God forbid John Kerry wins and we have to ask France or (worse) Kofi Annaan at the UN for approval first before protecting ourselves.
You were not protecting yourselves by invading Iraq!
The UN charta explicitly states that self-protection does not need assent by anyone. So stop peddling this silly nonsense.
Nobody is interested in telling you how to protect yourself.
But trampling all over the world to make a mess of things and expecting others to clean up after you will provoke quite a storm of justified criticism.
Stop whining and put up with it! You wanted it, you broke it, you clean it up!