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Bush Recieves The Most Votes In US History  
User currently offlineTechrep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

It was mentioned on CNN and NPR that Bush received the most votes for a U.S. President in history. At 58,314,986 that is truly impressive and Kerry put up some great numbers as well. I am truly happy with the number of people who voted and it should reach high 50% or low 60's for turnout.

TechRep


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Also, Bush did what Clinton never could.... won by a national majority

User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

The results were proof of the value of effective advertising. The American people did just what CNN told them to do....

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

...proving you've never watched CNN much  Nuts

User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

The results were proof of the value of effective advertising. The American people did just what CNN told them to do....

What CNN told them to do?? I don't know if you get CNNI like we do. But I think they have been very neutral in this election process.


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Nothing but embarrassment is all I feel right now. I'm embarrassed that so many people support W. and want him back in office.

User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1818 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Also, Bush did what Clinton never could.... won by a national majority

erm, as of 3 Nov 2004, 13:45 hours Western Europe Time, the tally reads

Bush : 254
Kerry :252

(required: 270)

with Ohio still remaining to be decided.


Don't jump to conclusions Concordeboy, It's the lawyers who are going to decide this one.



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

well, 'least you aren't so oblivious as to be "surprised", as some others drolly appear to be  Nuts

User currently offlineJ_hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

But at least this time, the Dems can't say K won the national popular vote! It's much more than the 500K that they keep yapping about in 2000...more like 4M!


COBOL - Not a dead language yet!
User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

CNN and other media outlets have been telling their viewing audience that Bush is ahead. So Bush is ahead.

I made no comment about CNN's neutrality. I could have used any media outlet, but if I said FOX instead of CNN I would surely not be taken seriously.


User currently offlineTechrep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

I Repeat! The absentee ballots in Ohio will need to go 94%-97% Kerry. That is a statistical impossibility. The State of Ohio goes to Bush, Popular vote Bush and the Electoral College goes to Bush!

TechRep


User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

George Bush has not won Ohio. This is a lie. I swear by Allah that John F. Kerry will lead this great country regardless of what the stupid American electorate has voted for.

I tell you this vote is still to close to call. We are confident that after all the votes are counted Democrats will pick seats in the Senate.



User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

....and the Electoral College goes to Bush!

I admit I don't understand the process completely, but isn't there still a chance that the Electorate of any of the states can still submit votes contrary to the what the polls indicate?

I believe this provision was added as an "out" to prevent states from making stupid decisions. And if the electoral process is just what is needed in this case in my opinion as it seems a great deal of people down there have obviously flipped their lids...

In Colorado's first year as a state, the electorate submitted its votes even though there was no public vote held in the state that year.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3533 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Yeah it's really awesome how divided america is right now, probably more divided then we were in 1968, one of the worst years in American History. We can thank Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney for scaring 58,000,000 Americans into voting because their afraid of something, rather then voting because they believe in something.

The GOP played the game and won. Kudos.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

We can thank Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney for scaring 58,000,000 Americans into voting because their afraid of something, rather then voting because they believe in something.

What position of John Kerry did you actually believe in? Americans were scared of voting John Kerry into office, I can't think of a much more dangerous proposition than that.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

well has bush bloody won or not?


Equally Cursed and Blessed.
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3533 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

What position of John Kerry did you actually believe in?


I'm glad you asked.

I believe that the american public should not be lied to for the course of an unjust, ill conceived and un planned war.

I believe that No Child Left Behind was a mistake, and that children are getting an even worse education then they were 4 years ago based on discussions with the people who actually teach, not people who make policy.

I believe that health care is one of the most important issues facing this country today, and the fact that it has been basically ignored by the Bush Administration shows that this man who is supposedly a "born again christian" isn't focusing on the people who actually need the help. I am no christian, but wasn't Jesus the one who hung around with thugs, prostitues, poor people,etc...i.e. The people who actually needed the help were the ones he helped. people should get off their christian high horse and start realizing what it means to say you believe in God and jesus and all that bullshit. It's not just so you can say you dissaprove of gay people and abortion...

I believe that John Kerry is a leader who i can trust and who can actually lead a country. Rather then letting other people do it for him.


just my thoughts. it's a moot point today, but they needed sharing anyhow.





Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

I believe that health care is one of the most important issues facing this country today, and the fact that it has been basically ignored by the Bush Administration shows that this man who is supposedly a "born again christian" isn't focusing on the people who actually need the help

Health care? I really hope you're not talking about the skyrocketing costs of health care. Do you really believe that John Kerry would've done anything about it. Look who he nominated as VP, a man whose fraudelent medical malpractice lawsuits are the reason why health care costs are so high? Do you think that Edwards would be in favor of capping liability for physicians and general tort reform? My ass he would.

I believe that the american public should not be lied to for the course of an unjust, ill conceived and un planned war.

So you vote for a guy whose positions on Iraq are about as clear as a muddy river? Just because you think the war is what you said above doesn't mean that John Kerry has some kind of viable alternative. Its not like the President willfully lied to the American people, he had bad intelligence. Ill-planned? I'd like you to name me a conflict that has gone strictly as planned.




America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

I'd like you to name me a conflict that has gone strictly as planned.

No conflict ever goes as planned, of course. But the invasion part of the Iraq war was planned in great detail, and the planning took into account a vast number of possibilities. That's the main reason why it went so quickly, and so well. It's obvious, from the utter mess that's over there, that there was next to no post-war planning.



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3533 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

In terms of health care, John Kerry's administration would have made much more of an attempt to bring health care to the people who don't have it, rather then being ignored by President Bush. I don't expect results, i do expect effort. I'd rather have someone try to push healthcare reform and fail then someone not try at all.

John Kerry's position on Iraq is perfectly clear. The problem that people associate with John Kerry is that he changed his mind. President Bush however has appeared steadfast in his approach to iraq. Smart People are willing to look at the facts and make decisions that could be entirely different then the course of action that has been followed up to that point, or at least say "hmm we may have done some things incorrectly". He doesn't even admit that any mistakes were made, at all. Surely anyone with common sense could make a few assertions about mistakes both strategically and tactically in this war:

The intelligence was wrong. It was not fully researched and there were flags that should have made people aware that maybe we don't have the best information, however this administration pressed on anyway in spite of it.

Declaring victory too early. You tell the troops mission accomplished and then expect them to stay in the same sort of battle mode they were in for the few weeks when we came in and annhilliated the iraqi army? What would you do if you're told that your job is done. You sure as hell aren't gonna be expecting to do much work if you think the mission is over.

Forgetting about Osama Bin Laden. "I'm really not too concerned about him" (even though he was the one who killed 2500 innocent american people and brought down one of the americas greatest symbols).


the list goes on. I know im not going to change anyones mind. Just stating the obvious facts about the problems of the current administration.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

GWB most certainly did.

But remember that Ronald Reagan won by a nearly 20% margin of the popular vote in 1984 over Walter Mondale (and a crushing electoral victory in which even Massachusetts voted for Reagan !). Roughly 82 million voters turned out then (we had a smaller population and fewer registered voters 20 years ago), so a comparison of the number of votes GWB got is odious and its punch pales in comparison to Reagan's decisive victory in which he truly crossed party lines.

In the past 30 odd years, I think that Reagan was the only Presidential candidate who crossed party lines and built a bipartisan base in 1984. Clinton did not, and neither did GWB.


User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

"Yeah it's really awesome how divided america is right now, probably more divided then we were in 1968, one of the worst years in American History. We can thank Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney for scaring 58,000,000 Americans into voting because their afraid of something, rather then voting because they believe in something."

Actually...if you paid attention it was the most votes ever for a Pres...and the first time since Reagan to get a majority...and overwhelmingly it was Moral Values that won this election.



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

"Actually...if you paid attention it was the most votes ever for a Pres...and the first time since Reagan to get a majority...and overwhelmingly it was Moral Values that won this election."

Well, if you paid attention, America is still hopelessly divided as the posting you cited says. The reason GWB got the most votes is because we have more people in America and more people voting. We are still split in half politically - a trend that has worsened since 1992.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4999 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

What is moral value?

Standing up for anti-gay, anti-abortion.

Meanwhile

-50 million dont have healthcare
-murders are being commited in Iraq
-Tax breaks are going to the rich
-Poor yet brilliant Americans cant access university due to financial issues

Wake up....

Once again and read your bible again, youll see a lot of differences with your version of "morality"



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

50 million dont have healthcare

...not quite sure why they would expect what 1) what they cannot afford, 2) what was never guaranteed to them





murders are being commited in Iraq

Apparently, not enough.... though methinks that's about to swiftly change (bye bye Fallujah!  Big thumbs up)




Tax breaks are going to the rich

...not to mention everyone else who actually PAYS TAXES here  Insane





Tax breaks are going to the rich

Harvard is a privilege, not a right.

Let them take advantage of the overwhelming number of states who provide free/granted State University education.


25 L-188 : In fact I belive that GW is the first president or canidate to have a majority of the population vote for him (50%) since 1988.
26 MaverickM11 : "-Poor yet brilliant Americans cant access university due to financial issues" Yet if you're a minority (aka not a white or Asian male) you are practi
27 NonRevKing : Well, out of all the posts, I've decided to state my post election thoughts and feelings here. I think it's the most fitting. I was someone who always
28 Jaysit : "If things keep going the way they are, I believe you'll see a landslide victory for the Democratic party in 2008." I'm not sure about that. The Dems
29 Mdsh00 : Plus, who IS there in the Democratic party with new ideas and the kind of personality to capture the imagination of voters? I don't see anyone. The on
30 NWA : "-Poor yet brilliant Americans cant access university due to financial issues" You go to an American university? Please tell me about the situation fr
31 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : The only one I can see right now is Barack Obama, but he needs to establish himself a bit more before he can run. sh'yeah, he also might wanna take sk
32 Mdsh00 : sh'yeah, he also might wanna take skin-care lessons from Michael Jackson CB, you have to admit that he was great as a keynote speaker and has lots of
33 L-188 : MDsh00, The only reason why Obama ended up on that podium was to get him elected.
34 ConcordeBoy : CB, you have to admit that he was great as a keynote speaker and has lots of potential. Sure I do... just as you likewise have to agree that there'll
35 Jaysit : "The only one I can see right now is Barack Obama, but he needs to establish himself a bit more before he can run." Well, what are his achievements ot
36 WN700driver : Yup, have to agree with the above. The only Dem capable of winning in '08 already did in '92 & '96. If Cheney or Guiliani run in 08, it'll be '84 all
37 Post contains images Planespotting : I like tax breaks when i actually get a tax break. Did i see a tax break? I made more money this past year then any other year before (around $9,000)
38 Post contains images Slider : This year. we got a $450 tax return. same income. same tax bracket. Sounds as if you have a bad accountant.
39 Planespotting : same accountant. *filler filler*
40 Jaysit : "If they don't have health care, they should buy it, or get off their asses & get a job that provides." Thats all fine and all, but we are not talking
41 Aa757first : -Tax breaks are going to the rich Analogy from an Economics professor: Suppose that every day 10 men go to a restaurant for dinner. The bill for all
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