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States Average IQ And How They Voted  
User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3397 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

http://attenuation.net/files/iq.htm

A friend sent this to me, this should get conservatives fired up.  Laugh out loud

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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

#50 would explain MD-90 on here.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

The exit polls that I saw on CNN also said that the more education a person had, the more likely they were to vote for Kerry, and not vote for banning gay marriage. Draw your own conclusions.


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Since political science is not an actual science being intelligent does not guarantee that you make correct judgements.

When I learned that I was eligible for membership in Mensa I took a look at what they were actually about. I found that their members mistook their IQ for a lot of things that it is not. A high IQ does not mean that you have good judgement. Evidence to the contrary abounds. It does not mean that you are "good" or "evil" but can tend toward either with more power. I'd bet real money that Adolph Hitler had a higher IQ than Mother Theresa. And so what.

I've come to realize that the reason my IQ is high is largely because I have a mind similar to people who devise intelligence tests. I disagree that these tests are necessarily culturally biased, after all, knowledge of things outside your day-to-day experience certainly is one valid index of intelligence. However, I am convinced that they are biased toward similarity with the person who wrote the test.




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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Yet it was rumored that W had a higher IQ than Kerry

User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Well if those statistics are correct, then I guess UK newspaper Daily Mirror were on to something...



"Yet it was rumored that W had a higher IQ than Kerry"

Hehe, funniest thing I've heared all day.  Big thumbs up

Thom@s




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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

It shows you how Bush played to the "dumbing down" vote so effectively. These people don't understand much beyond their own little world, and many still hold great grudges against those whom they perceive as "superior" to them, economically and socially.

It shows that JetService was right; the NASCAR vote, the poor, white, chaw-chewing white trash is what is driving the election these days. Little education; little social mobility, but with a huge amount of loathing for anything outside what they know.


User currently offlineAegis From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Apparently Al Qaida aren't to thrilled over the re-election either. They threatened with more attacks now that "the American people have shown they support the war against Islam".

I don't think these guys get the picture...



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Aegis, Al Qaeda is thrilled. George Bush has done more to fill their ranks than any man in history. They're elated over this.

User currently offlineAegis From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

Yeah, if Kerry was elected and managed to sort it out, they wouldn't have anything to do. Bush certainly giving people jobs...  Smile Not to mention the guys he sends off to Iraq. What would they do if they didn't have a war to go to? Stay alive perhaps?


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

You don't get it, do you?

Bush's war in Iraq had done nothing but to piss off a few million more Arabs and Muslims in the world. The occupation and the attempt to westernize Iraq into a "democracy" has energized those people. Afghanistan didn't energize them, but Iraq, being an unjustified incursion, has lit a fuse under those people.

But enjoy your naivte, if you wish.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Alpha, I must admit that I'm a bit surprised at your last statement. You honestly believe that someone is "poor, stupid white trash" for voting for Bush? You don't think that some of that same uneducated garbage votes for Kerry as well? Don't forget that Kerry garnered nearly half the popular vote in the election.

All stupid people vote for GWB. All smart people voted for Kerry. What a silly, elitist view (and I do find it quite funny that you call people "elitist" when you post the same tripe).

"I'll show you boobs if you vote for John Kerry!" --got the college vote...

"Why are you voting Kerry, ma'am?" "We need change." "And what specifically do you speak of?" "::silence::" --asked this question many, many times and received the same response.

And, IIRC, you're not exactly far above that "poor, white, chaw-chewing" blue-collar class, are you? Hmmmmm....

I call it a gross misinterpretation (too narrow and simplistic) of voter demographics...but hey, if you can whine about it, let Alpha take it and run, right?  Big grin



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User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

1) Bogus stats. No way an 'average IQ' can be attained for populations that large. PLEASE!!!

2) You guys act like everyone in a given state voted for one candidate or the other. The voters and percentages were mixed. If it were possible, you would need average IQ of Bush voters in given state vs. ave. IQ of a Kerry voter in that same state. Who's to say the Kerry voters aren't dragging down the average?

3) Don't make the gay-marriage issue a Dem vs. Rep thing. Kerry was against it and Clinton even urged him to be more forcefully against it.

4) If MD-90 moved to Arkansas, the average IQ of both states would go down.



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User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

This is pure crap. No way there can be such difference in IQ average from one state to the other.

Education might be a predictor of how people vote (more educated -> Kerry), but that would have to be investigated.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

"Yet it was rumored that W had a higher IQ than Kerry"

Hehe, funniest thing I've heared all day.


Actually there are groups out there that say that Bush has a slightly higher IQ than Kerry. Now this is unscientific, it's based on military testing, college transcripts and GPAs that they were able to obtain.

Anyways these lists are suspect, they are routinely proved false on the fact buster websites.



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User currently offlineAegis From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Falcon, what are you talking about?

Let's just see if we agree on this: George Bush is only making the situation worse by "Liberating" Iraq.

I inturpreted that you were against Bush and his war in Iraq?  Confused



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

PPGMD, Well I will have to see some evidence before I buy that.  Smile

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Let's just see if we agree on this: George Bush is only making the situation worse by "Liberating" Iraq.

I don't think we agree on that either.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

These people don't understand much beyond their own little world, and many still hold great grudges against those whom they perceive as "superior" to them, economically and socially.

....and yet, Republicans are the party of the privileged and elite? Make up your "minds" folks  Nuts


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

....and yet, Republicans are the party of the privileged and elite? Make up your "minds" folks.

Exactly. There have been surveys of the average income of Democrat registered voters, and Republican registration's. It has shown that Republicans have a lower average income than Democrats, even though Democrats out number Republican in the lowest pay brackets.



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User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

This is pure crap. No way there can be such difference in IQ average from one state to the other.

Qb001, I agree. the population is so large that the difference (if even possible to calculate) would be decimal points. 116 average? LMFAO!!!!



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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

1) Bogus stats. No way an 'average IQ' can be attained for populations that large. PLEASE!!!

Do you know what an average is? Technically, all you need for an average is one person. Ex: If person X's IQ is 120, the group containing him (so just him) has an average IQ of 120. Simple! Just because you cannot accept the fact that the more educated people voted for Kerry is another story...

2) You guys act like everyone in a given state voted for one candidate or the other. The voters and percentages were mixed. If it were possible, you would need average IQ of Bush voters in given state vs. ave. IQ of a Kerry voter in that same state. Who's to say the Kerry voters aren't dragging down the average?

Wow, this actually sounds like something Bush would say! Yes, we act like everyone in a state voted for one person or the other, because that is the case! No one can vote for two people, you know that, right? (Yes, I know what you are trying to say, but it came out wrong.)

The only point made here is the states in which the majority of the people voted for Bush have are all basically at the low end of the IQ table! Don't say that it doesn't show anything, because that is just being naive.

Sebastian



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineN771AN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

The book where the IQ data comes from has Canada, France, and Spain dumber than Americans.

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Just because you cannot accept the fact that the more educated people voted for Kerry is another story...

I do not accept theories predicated on hissy-fits and that's what this stuff is. Even if the IQ averages were correct, this data doesn't even divide Bush & Kerry voters. Its supposedly a collective average of the state's entire population. But its BS anyway so it doesn't matter. I know you're probably vulnerable right now in your post-election-tantrum period, but try not to be so fucking gullible.



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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

predicated on hissy-fits and that's what this stuff is

Would you care to enlighten us as to how you know this fact for certain? Because it goes against your beloved Bush?

I know you're probably vulnerable right now in your post-election-tantrum period, but try not to be so fucking gullible.

Haha, good one. I'm sure you would be singing a different tune if the data would show the Democrat states smarter than the Republican ones!...



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
25 Kalakaua : Hawaii is number 6 in terms of IQ average?! HAHA!!! You're bullshiting me...
26 Techrep : IQ Average by country: Hong Kong 107 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- South Korea 106 ----------------
27 Post contains images Thom@s : 98? Ninety eight? Hmmm, I wonder who's pulling us down... must be the guys in government... Thom@s
28 Techrep : This seems to indicate the smartest people in the world live in: (Drum roll please). 1 Connecticut 113 Kerry 2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry 3 New Jersey 11
29 JetService : Would you care to enlighten us as to how you know this fact for certain? Because it goes against your beloved Bush? Haha, good one. I'm sure you would
30 LHSebi : I know BS when I see it even if its favorable to my POV Dubya, is that you?
31 JetService : Dubya, is that you? I accept your surrender.
32 LHSebi : Haha, well, your amazing arrogance has obviously clouded your ability to think clearly. I'm still waiting for that proof...
33 Post contains images NUAir : Don't believe the hype. I never trust data without a current source, "The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nati
34 Post contains images JetService : Need proof? Just read the disclaimer. Its a hoot. This data is entirely based on high-school SAT and ACT scores (a voting block that isn't big on voti
35 Captoveur : Thank God for Mississippi Signed, The Texas Department of Education
36 Post contains images Thecoz : I wonder what the correlation is for "IQ" vs. people who actually go out and vote... Maybe the "IQ" based on SAT and ACT scores has anything to do wit
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