Cwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1186 times:
You left wing nuts are really, really pathetic. Only Rednecks would vote for Bush...Iowa voted Bush, therefore, Iowans must be Rednecks. Except you forget, Iowa is what gave Kerry the momentum to win the nomination to begin with. In other words, Iowa voters spared the Democrats the embarassment of a Howard Dean candidacy, which would have given Bush a landslide, the likes of which haven't been seen since Ronald Reagan.
Iowa votes with liberal states most of the time, this year and 1984 being the anomolies. Iowa contains some of the most liberal communities in the country, one of which, Ames, attempts on every turn to imitate that cesspool California...even down to attempting to ban smoking in bars. Iowa has an evenly split legislature and Democrats hold ALL statewide offices (Governor, Attorney General, etc.). Iowa continually elects the second most liberal senator (by some counts THE most liberal senator) in the U.S. Senate, Mr. Tom Harkin. Iowa voters, in polling, tend to lean towards the opinions of the "intellectual" states like New York. Iowa's Republican congressman side with Democrats more than the Republican party would like, and their Republican senator, Charles Grassley, is widely regarded as one of the most respectable and least partisan members of the U.S. Senate.
Iowa voters are also very independent...they don't tow the party line. They do vary from time to time, like this year. This independent thinking, I guess, makes them Rednecks. *cue eye roll*
Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
N771AN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1172 times:
Only rednecks vote for Bush? Let's see how the net gain of percentage points in the Blue states for Bush.
New Hampshire +0.8
Rhode Island +7
New York +5.5
New Jersey +5.8
Washington D.C +.3
W garnered a bigger percentage of the vote in every single state in this country with the exception of Vermont.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
It's people like Techrep that only further galvanize us "rednecks" to dig our heels in deeper and fight (GASP!) for what we stand for.
If you think that what I stand for (individual responsibility, downsizing or eliminating as many public entitlement programs as possible, wanting to keep what I earn, practicing my right to free thought by maintaining my belief in God, believing the Constitution is a document for the Ages and not for whatever happens to be vogue today, owning a gun, owning two cars, and spitting in the face of Political Correctness) makes me a Redneck, then guess what?
I am a Redneck and proud.
Why not? You can be Gay and Proud. Black and proud. Mexican and proud.
I choose red and proud.
And for what it's worth, I think that the crux of the issue is that we won, and they lost. Period.
NUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1015 times:
umm seeing as Iowa still has a large population of farmers maybe it had nothing to do with education, crime, Iraq or moral values or any of the other issues people have in Chicago or New York.
I voted for Kerry but if I was a farmer I would have gone for Bush. He addressed their issues with farming subsidies and international trade with the EU and Mexico, something that I never heard Kerry speak a single word about.
The truth is that Kerry avoided this entire population and left them hanging, which is a big part of why most of the center of this country went red. If you take Milwaukee and Madison out of Wisconsin we would have gone for Bush 80% vs. 20% for Kerry. You can say the same about Illinois and Chicago. This isn't to say that these people are hard core republicans because as CWAPilot pointed out most of them vote for democrats for other positions. A lot of people in this country still believe in voting for the person who will best represent their concerns rather than a party. I think the average Iowan made a good choice with Bush.
Maybe these people are red necks but what did Kerry do to deserve their vote?
BTW when Jesse Jackson ran for president during the primaries he gained more rural white agricultural votes than any of the other candidates. A black man from the city! The reason is he addressed the issues that are important to rural voters.
These are not racist red-necks they are family farmers working hard just to stay alive.
"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 985 times:
I guess Iowaman would be well qualified to say something bout his state
The redneck assumption doesn't stick, liberals....see how many large urban cities (Dallas, Atlanta, Denver, Orlando, Miami, Jacksonville, Memphis, Nashville, Salt Lake City, Cincinatti, etc etc etc etc) lay within the red states, even though some of these large populases did vote for Kerry...but the rest of the states kinda neutralized that. Wanna call their city people rednecks? Thought not.