777heavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
Let me post an article from the current Spiegel Online International version:
"Jody Biehl isn't the only American living in Europe suffering from a Bush re-election hangover. Nor is she alone in her thought that the United States has become as scary as Osama bin Laden. In an editorial, she explains why she and others may be staying abroad for longer than they expected."
Mdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4119 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2425 times:
I didn't think that I would waste my 1,000th Post (SELF-GLOSS ), but these "I wan't to leave" posts are getting ridiculous. I, like many of those who voted for Kerry, are very disappointed at the results and am looking on in anxiety toward the nxt four years. BUT, I will never use that as a reason for leaving the country. It isn't and won't be THAT bad (Plus living in California is a good buffer ). Those that are clamoring to leave the US are just acting like pussies. It's a democracy and our person didn't win..what can you do? Suck it up...2008 will be here in no time.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
In related news:
Springfield, IL (AP) - 8 year old James Townson suprised his friends by declaring he was going to take his ball and go home as a result of a 18-6 loss in a sandlot football game. When Townson was reached by local reporters and asked about the incident, he applied, "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!". No word if the rest of the group was able to secure another ball to continue with another game.
Eric505 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 592 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2111 times:
I say stay in Germany. If you're willing to let one person taint your view of an entire nation then I'm not so sure we want you back. Complain all you want over there, we don't care. Someone else will most definitely fill your void in society.
Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life
Dl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11443 posts, RR: 78 Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2094 times:
Jody Biel seems to have nothing positive to contribute to the situation, so stay in Germany. He/she fails to recognize the reason that Germany seems averse to nationalism, namely national socialism which is still within living memory and still causes fear. He/she claims to be scared of the US and our desire to protect ourselves....well, no sweat. Stay where-ever you are and don't call us, and we sure won't call you.
The thousands of expatriate Americans in Europe must seek to avoid the Stockholm Syndrome they get while sitting in the cafes trying to appease their european friends who want them to apologize for being from that country that is bigger, stronger and culturally dominant. Go ahead, make them like you and feel as if you are their equal. For every reasonable european who understands reality, there are 5 who resent us for being willing to do what they are not. THey resent us for kicking the hornets nest, which is a precursor to removing it from the garage. They want for everyone to be as pacifistic and reasonable as they are. They believe that the terrorists are like unruly children who should be reasoned with instead of removed.
N771AN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2063 times:
As I have repeatedly offered... anyone... and i mean anyone who does not like living here can email me and I will gladly buy you a ticket with my frequent flier miles anywhere you want to go... but it must be one way.
RT514 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2061 times:
Jody, stay there. We don't really need you.
So what, DI021? "We" don't really need you either. What's your point?
...anyone who does not like living here can email me and I will gladly buy you a ticket with my frequent flier miles anywhere you want to go... but it must be one way.
Why? So that you can continue to delude yourself with your false reality that you are surrounded only by those who will love their home unconditionally?
The thought of people expressing their thoughts, having the open-mindedness to question their country, city, state,whatever... obviously bothers you simply because it is not congruent with your own beliefs. That approach is not exactly an accurate description of a free and democratic society now, is it?
In Canada and in Australia, we almost approach making fun of and questioning government as a national sport. In the US, doing so seems to make one "un-patriotic" in the eyes of so many. I just don't understand that. Hmmmm... I think that when the USSR existed, questioning the government was considered "unpatriotic" as well. Perhaps there's a fine line there???
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13616 posts, RR: 63 Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2032 times:
Germany´s minister of the interior, Schily, (who though he has been defending Baader-Meinhof gang terrorists as a young trial lawyer back in the ´70s) is one of the toughest law and order politicians we ever had.
A few months ago he stated clearly in an interview in Spiegel magazine that anybody commiting acts of terror in Germany must accept that he WILL be killed, that the police will NOT get orders to save the life of a terrorist if necessary, they will consider the lives of the population first (e.g. police snipers or GSG 9).
PPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1989 times:
Another idiot. Has she even been back to the states in the last couple of years? She can stay for all we care, there are thousands if not millions that are scrambling for a chance to get a green card to enter the United States, apparently we don't seem that bad to most of the world.
The funniest thing I ever heard was from a cousin of mine, he and his wife were visiting my family here in Florida, the entire time he said how prudish we were. With restrictive laws, like getting a fishing license. The best part was later that week he was asking my parents if they would sponsor him for a green card to come live in the states.
CXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1979 times:
Now that I'm the only person in my family still a Green Card holder, and have been for 4 years, everyone is pestering me to apply for US citizenship...very annoying, considering that we're leaving in a year or two for Canada or the UK....
Anyway, it is not all the Americans who are stupid- the Northeast is like a mini-Europe, with people like me abound! But most of the rest, I'm afraid, has gone round the bend!
From the South African-Canadian, Jonathan
The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
JoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 28 Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1977 times:
>The thought of people expressing their thoughts, having the open-mindedness to question their country, city, state,whatever... obviously bothers you simply because it is not congruent with your own beliefs.<
I think what really bothers them, more than other people expressing their thoughts, is all those people saying they want to leave/stay away from the U.S. because the winner of the elections is not who they wanted (apparently, democracy is only good when the winner is the one they voted for).
These "I'm leaving/not going back to the US" folks remind of those who start topics to inform us that they are leaving a.net. They sound as childish and stupid as if some right-wing wacko said years ago that they were leaving the U.S. because Clinton won, or if they were leaving because Kerry had won.
USAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1952 times:
The point of this post was not to talk about whether this woman should or should not come back to the US. The point as 777heavy said, was to think about the message. We as Americans are so self absorbed and ignorant about the rest of the world that we forget that there are 6 billion of them and only 300 million of us. When a vast majority of that 6 billion have a huge problem with the leader of our country, we can't just discount and say who the fuck cares. We as Americans need to start caring more about the rest of the world, especially with how everything is becoming so globalized now a days. Eventually, if we keep giving the world the middle finger, they might not be there for us when we need them.