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Radio DJs: Why Do They Talk Over Songs?  
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17662 posts, RR: 46
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5523 times:

Why do radio DJs talk over the beginning of a song right up until the first word? What benefit is there? It's such a pet peeve of mine. Just curious what the rationale behind it was.


E pur si muove -Galileo
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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

Because they think they're cool, ya know, gettin to know ya and spending a few extra minutes of your time yacking it up about their sponsorship at X place this weekend...Or maybe they're lonely- ever stop to think about that?  Big grin

It does bother me too...good stations don't have that.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

There's a perfect solution to this problem: satellite radio.


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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5493 times:

Because they provide the service to you for free, so they do what they want and you deal with it.

User currently offlineTristarenvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Seems to me, that these days, most jocks don't blabber over intro's to tunes. Probably the best thing that can be said for station automation...Now, back in the old days, that was the sign of a good jock if he could belt out the weather, the stations call letters, the request line, and the song title before the singing started.


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User currently offlineCVGpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

I could not agree more, I notice more and more DJ's are becoming more annoying then entertaining exceptionally as far as HipHop is concerned. If I want to hear commercials I will just turn on the TV, and if I want talk/news I will tune to a news source on the radio or one of the fifty on cable. I listen to the music radio stations because I want to here MUSIC! Not some dude talking more street then any one person should ever do in there life. I agree that satellite radio is pretty much the way to go. Also after going to a few radio station web sites, I did not find one where the DJ does not earn a paycheck. I take it that "WELLHUNG" is dj of some sort or have a passion for the profession, so no offense just my view on the topic.

Tho the Bob and Tom show is one of the best for thos of you who are familiar w/it!



Globally Yours
User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1600 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

As a DJ on my college radio station, let me take a stab at answering this question. When we talk over the beginnin of a song, it's generally an instrumental introduction. It's been a practice on radio for years to give quick time/weather updates as a song starts. Under no circumstances do any DJ's that I know actually talk over songs.

User currently offlineIllini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Keeps the broadcast from being clean? Might have something to do with people taping songs off the radio back in the day, if you wanted an "unblemised" version of the song without the jock's chatter on the lead in, you'd have to go buy the tape (cd, album, 8-track, mp3, DVD, miniDisk, whatever you want to listen on)


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User currently offlineCVGpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

"lllini 152" I would prob' say that has something to do with it, great theory!


Globally Yours
User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

Yeah... I remember the days recording songs off the radio with cassette tapes. I hated it when the DJ wouldn't shut up.


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User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

When we talk over the beginnin of a song, it's generally an instrumental introduction. It's been a practice on radio for years to give quick time/weather updates as a song starts. Under no circumstances do any DJ's that I know actually talk over songs

I believe that's what the whole point of the thread was; talking over the beginning, not the middle of the tune, and the part that annoys me the most; The instrumental parts are as important as the vocals, if not better in many cases. Overdeliveriing DJ's seem to be a hallmark of sleazy top-40 radio, as in my experience, college stations tend to be based more on the music than pandering to cretins.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17662 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5367 times:

Also, what's with European radio stations cutting the song 2/3rds the way through the song?


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

As much as I hate it, I know why: Money.

The songs they play is advertising, radio is simply the medium and us listeners are potential customers. Stations make money by playing songs, playing commercials and hosting programs either relating to up coming concerts, give-a-ways, community shit, etc. The only way they can broadcast any of the above info is by talking on the air. But since the songs themselves probably rake in the most cash, they are limited from talking over the lyrics.

Besides, they assume that is they have a large listener base, of those people that matter bought CD's to all the songs of their playlists, they don't need to hear every damnned song or the bits and pieces of them. I laerned in a business class about the 80/20 ratio, that depending on the market, 20% of the customers provide 80% of the revenue. Which means up to 80% of the listeners of a radio station are not targetted for sales; i.e. they will take your request for statistic purposes but not to play the song.

Most radio stations play only the popular songs either requested by those people that matter or sponsors or songs the industry dumps a hella lot of advertising money on. I have been observing my local top40 station, it seems to me that the record company that produced the song spends money to get the song played for the first 3 weeks, thereafter listeners will request it enough to both keep it aloft for months and continue sales. You gotta spend money to get money....


I for one hate the fact that the business industry has taken over every aspect of my life claiming it is to make it more efficient. In reality it is more efficient for them. Take the drug industry, do they really wanna make your cancer go away? This is why I don't buy the Phillip Morris ads on TV, it is almost like they are confident no one will give up on them; they're doing it for PR, a few commercials a week is cheap anyway; look at the time of day they show them and what channels, they are staying away from the traffic zones.  Pissed

It's business.  Insane



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

Being a former DJ in college, and for a short time afterwards, it all depends on what the station or the owner wants. Some Programming Director's perfer their DJ's talk right up until the first lyric is uttered in the song; others would perfer the listener hear the whole song; some leave it up to the individual DJ's.

Personally, I'd rather hear the song, not the DJ.  Smile


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

"Being a former DJ in college"

Sheesh, that's going back a long time  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5302 times:

Oh how we miss John Peel  Sad

Someone who also did not agree with talkovers...then again he never did the trashy drivetime type slots


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5290 times:

Being a former DJ in college"

Sheesh, that's going back a long time


20 years, man! But it was a ton of fun, let me tell you. I usually worked after the "Morning Zoo" crew, you know, the calm after the circus, and you'd get the regular calls who want to hear Journey, or the 'Stones, the Beatles, or Bon Jovi.

But I also worked for a while on an 11pm-3am shift on the air-on a monday night, no less, and you'd inevitably get some guy, who you could tell was totally whacked off his mind (and not naturally), who'd call, and would slur through the phone, at 2am, "Hey, man, put on some Innagaddadavida by Iron Butterfly dude, rock on!", and you'd embarrass the shit out of him by recording the call, and playing it before the song comes on.  Big grin


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5276 times:

Falcon84, rumour is that 20 years ago you were still 60 years old? Is this true?  Wink/being sarcastic


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