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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

Hey guys,

CNN has it up as a breaking news banner.

Colin Powell has officially dropped his resignation into GW's in basket.

http://www.cnn.com


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Hmmm....quite surprising. Wasnt expecting this


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

This was on the cards though, wasn't it ? I'm surprised Colin Powell has stuck around this long, after being made to look a complete nana over the whole WMD Powerpoint presentation. It's a shame, because he has been IMHO a worthy and respected Secretary of State in spite of everything.

And of course, the question remains - who takes over ?


User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

How long until this goes off topic?

I will just sit back and wait on BN747 and Falcon84 to check the thread.


User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

Rumored that Condoleeza or John Danforth should take over, but not sure whether she (Rice) wants the job.

No idea on whether SecDef Rumsfeld staying or going.
You had a good run Mr.Secretary, especially as a General in Desert Storm



Now you're really flying
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

Who is John Danforth ?

User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

How long until this goes off topic?

I will just sit back and wait on BN747 and Falcon84 to check the thread.


Well with this comment you just went off topic your self smartass  Big grin

But to be honest I was sure this would happen since there has been discussions about it before.
I really admired Powell. He was a very good man. And like JGPH1A said it really was a shame that he was the one who had to sit in the security council and providing that "evidence" at that time.

And I wish him all the best in the future. He really deserves it.


User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Off topic:
Captoveur,
I like the rock you just threw... too bad you were still in the glass house...
Almost in the same class as the media whore statement...  Big thumbs up

On topic
Sad to hear about Mr Powells resignation, as far as I'm concerned, he is the better part of the administration....
Anybody have any thoughts about the reason for his resignation...?
I do, but I'll keep them to my self...for now...



Read between the lines.
User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

"Well with this comment you just went off topic your self smartass"


Shouldn't you be shining the girly shoes or something?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

And OYRJA just got flattended by that right hook from the Captain  Big thumbs up


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

John Danforth is the US amabassdor to the UN, JGPH1A...


Now you're really flying
User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Totally expected. Surprised he hung in this long. Perhaps now he can gain back some respect that he lost by being associated with Bush.

User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Shouldn't you be shining the girly shoes or something?

Lmao!!!  Big thumbs up

Nah.... Gkirk has taken over the business now. Big grin



User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Well, there goes one of the few voices of reason in an administration full of extremists.

Also hearing at least 3 other Secretaries are stepping down. His whole cabinet seems to be leaving.


User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

It is relatively normal for the cabinet to have turnover, and all the exits so far have been anticipated. These have been 4 difficult years for these people and we should thank Sec Powell for his service. I personally hope he can go make some money now so he can retire comfortably. He has been in government service his entire life, and you don't make the big bucks that way.

I think its safe to expect another book in the next couple of years, and his presence on the speaking circuit.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Bush should think outside the box and nominate Bill Clinton. With everything that's going on in the Middle East right now Clinton could play a huge role. It's well known that he wanted his legacy to include a lasting peace in the Middle East and this would give him a huge opportunity. Furthermore, he's been rumored to have said he wants the UN job, so forging a peace accord would go a long way towards getting him the job.

The move would be another indication of bi-partisanship by the White House.

I think it would be well accepted by the Europeans and developing nations as a conciliatory move.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Bill Clinton would be great, but talk about Fantasy Cabinet Building ! Won't EVERRRR happen, I feel I can safely predict.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Bush should think outside the box and nominate Bill Clinton.

N6376m, I honestly think President Bush should ask Bill Clinton to become his Special Envoy to the Middle East, in the wake of the death of Arafat. I think Clinton's force of personality, and his relative popularity there would bolster US chances to get moving on the "peace process".


User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Listen, I'm as partisan as it comes, but the writing's on the wall. The old way of doing things isn't working and something new has to be tried.

As SecState Clinton would have to carryout administration policy but it would give him a seat at the table where policy was drafted. I think it's a win/win, W keeps Clinton on a short leash; Clinton get the exposure and opportunity he wants.

Sure Karl Rove will go apeshit but can you think of how it would neutralize administration critics. Furthermore, I think that it would help solidify the moderates within the party by showing that the administration is willing to work with the other side.


User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

I agree, I think that would be a good move on Bush's part. Clinton was very popular.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be a smart move, sure. But this administration is a bit short of consensus-building initiatives thus far, and don't show the kind of humility and lateral thinking that the step you suggest would require.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Could Bush and CLinton get on with each other though? Would definitly be a popular appointment


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Well, names being floated, according to CNN, are Rice and Wolfwitz, both of which I think would be a disaster for US prestige around the world, when our prestige is already dog's meat.

How about someone like Dick Lugar? He's conservative; well-respected on both sides of the aisle, and is well versed on foreign policy.


User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Well, heres something funny...I was thinking along the same lines as Falcon. I think it would be a smart move to send Clinton and Bush 41 as a team to work on a peace initiative. Now is the window and to appoint these two would be to put the two biggest horses possible on the project. Both of them have experience in the region and there will be no mistaking the seriousness of the mission. The negotiations would be handled by the professionals anyway, but both sides would have to take this more seriously than anything done previously.


Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1909 times:


Maybe there is a God after all!

Micke  Big grin



Airbus SAS - Love them both
25 SlamClick : While not a big fan of Clinton, that is a fascinating idea. It would be a good message, sending such a high-level personage into the project. It would
26 Post contains images Tom in NO : It'd work out in one way for Clinton.....he'd have access to more interns . Tom at MSY
27 AMS : That is such a shame!.......In My opinion he was quite a sincere and genuine man!.....Although I have heard he took some distance from the Bush admini
28 Post contains images Flyingbronco05 : With Bushes "crew" resigning, I wonder when Bush will. Afterall, he can't run the country efficiently with them, what is he gonna do without them?
29 AA777 : I was surprised that he stuck around this long... then again, I was surprised that he started to support the Iraq war. I dont know what his incentive
30 Thecoz : In a typical re-election, how many cabinet members usually resign?
31 N6376m : Slamclick, Though a former President does have a secret service detail, it in no way comes close to that of a sitting POTUS. In fact, I was at a resta
32 Rjpieces : Well, names being floated, according to CNN, are Rice and Wolfwitz, both of which I think would be a disaster for US prestige around the world, when o
33 Ctbarnes : My vote would be either for Rice or Danforth. Neither would be an ideal choice but considering what we have to work with.... Wolfowitz running Foggy B
34 Cwapilot : This is not surprising at all...what is surprising is the fact that he accepted the job in the first place, AND stayed on past the first 2 years, when
35 N6376m : Wolfowitz will have a HUGE Senate confirmation battle before he can assume any Article 2 office.
36 Rjpieces : I was surprised that he stuck around this long... then again, I was surprised that he started to support the Iraq war. I dont know what his incentive
37 N6376m : I forgot about N Korea. Now Clinton could head over there and mend the rift. I wonder how lil'Kim would greet him now that it came out that WJC had co
38 NWA742 : Totally expected, but it still sucks that he's resigning. -NWA742
39 Rjpieces : One interesting thing to note is that Bush and Clinton are friends. Bush lavished him with praise when Clinton visited the White House a few months ag
40 Cwapilot : You assume Clinton is capable of avoiding grandstanding for at least 2 years, and is going to remain neutral regarding Hillary's 2008 ambitions. I don
41 Cwapilot : Friends?! That is taking it a little too far. What do you expect Bush to do at a portrait unveiling? "Here's your picture, asshole. Nice grin! Is that
42 Post contains links Ctbarnes : Rice seems to be the likely replacement according to CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/powell/index.html Charles, SJ[Edited 2004-11-15 19
43 Rjpieces : Friends?! That is taking it a little too far. What do you expect Bush to do at a portrait unveiling? "Here's your picture, asshole. Nice grin! Is that
44 N6376m : CWAPilot - If you think US policy should be based on what Euro rags will write out us, then you're the naive one. Who the hell cares what the afternoo
45 NoUFO : Cwapilot: What is also not very surprising is the ignorance of our Eurowhiners. "An administration full of extremists"...my ass. You people know virtu
46 Post contains images Andreas : Nobby, why do you care?? Little men with little power, little brains, even smaller d!cks and non-existent self-confidence bragging about how large the
47 N6376m : Hey Andreas - still holding onto the theory that the stock market wouldn't be affected by the outcome of the election?
48 Cwapilot : And the Eurowhiners resort to juvenile-sounding personal attacks...I guess it will be a normal week after all. Andreas, are you drunk, or have you bee
49 NoUFO : Andreas, some people's blind rants, how they maintain a concept of an enemy, their illusion of an all-round superiority and their inability to relax w
50 Cwapilot : NoUFO...you're right. According to American hygene standards, I do indeed clean out my ears on a daily basis...OHHHH WAIT!!! You were making a patheti
51 Avek00 : The odds of Clinton serving as SoS is zero, zilch, none. However, the idea of sending him as part of a delegation to the MidEast is entirely plausible
52 NoUFO : Cwapilot, Your "contribution" to this thread is basically limited to blind rants against Europeans: They are "Eurowhiners" alltogether, their media ar
53 Iakobos : Cwapilot, Have a look at your post #34, last sentence of 2nd and last sentence of 3rd paragraphs. Looks pretty similar to hara-kiri. For your informat
54 Post contains links Mdsh00 : Looks like Condi will be his replacement.. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=254647
55 L-188 : Damm Mdsh00 you beat me to it. The US's first Secretary of State that actually looks like a woman.
56 Superfly : Keep Richard Lugar in the Senate. He is one of the few Senate Republicans with common sense. Someone much worse than him can easily replace him. Remem
57 AA777 : Powell was all for taking on Saddam, just not the way Bush did it. LOL, so please then, was Powell supportive of THE WAR, or not? Because, if you say
58 Post contains images Ctbarnes : The US's first Secretary of State that actually looks like a woman. Now, now. Madiline Albright did have a kind of grandmotherly look about her. With
59 Bahadir : Conny Rice as head of state dept will prove that our country has been taken hostage by oil business.. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/
60 Bill142 : I can tell you what I think in two words: Im Possible. your possible to what? if you ment to say Impossible which is actually one word. back on the to
61 Greaser : IT'S OFFICIAL, BUSH HAS NOMINATED CONDOLEEZA RICE FOR SECSTATE... SOURCE BBC
62 Indianguy : Would this be a good time to open an investigation into My Lai?
63 Falcon84 : Would this be a good time to open an investigation into My Lai? Why, for Christ sake, Roy? What does that have to do with this subject?
64 Post contains images AA777 : This would be a good time to buy stock in oil companies.... Condi Rice... our New Secretary of State... ugh.... -AA777
65 Indianguy : Why, for Christ sake, Roy? Why not? Justice has already been denied to the victims for over 3 decades now. Now would be as good a time as ever. Does
66 Arsenal@LHR : Who wants to wage a bet that the next post by cwapilot or N6373M will not include the words "Euro", or "Erurowhiners"?
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