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UK Latest Idea On "healthy Living"  
User currently offlineImonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Today the british gov, launched there anti smoking campaign etc etc.

What I find appaling, is in germany the minister of health said that tax should be put on fast food. I disagree, you should be taxed higher for obesity, why should I have to pay more tax on a McDonalds burger I have every few weeks?
they are punishing the healthy, lets face the facts, i mean an extra $.10 isnt a great deal but fat people will still pay that extra $.10 for a mcd's burger.

One thing I do like is the ban on smoking, yet the english want to ban high fat food ads and candy ads before 9pm, it is the parents and own persons fault if u are fat, why dont they educate the youth and watch what they are served in the caffeteria?

I think there are good things and bad things.

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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1080 times:
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I support the governments ban on smoking in public places, smoking is a filthy and dangerous habit. If people want to smoke let them do it in their own privacy or away from non-smokers to reduce the amount of passive smoking. It might not discourage people from smoking, because an adiction is an adiction, but what a ban does do is move smokers away from non-smokers, therefore reducing passive smoking.



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User currently onlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

Regarding the tax on fastfood in Germany: Yesterday I had a FishMac, which cost 2.15€. According to the bill, tax was 0.14€ (7%). So if they raise the tax to, let's say, 10%, the FishMac would cost 2,20€. It wouldn't make anybody stop eating fastfood.

User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

What I find appaling, is in germany the minister of health said that tax should be put on fast food. I disagree, you should be taxed higher for obesity, why should I have to pay more tax on a McDonalds burger I have every few weeks?
they are punishing the healthy, lets face the facts, i mean an extra $.10 isnt a great deal but fat people will still pay that extra $.10 for a mcd's burger.


I don't understand how taxing hamburgers punishes the healthy rather than the unhealthy - surely if you buy more burgers (thus being unhealthy) you're going to suffer more that if you only buy one "every few weeks"?

Re. smoking, I'm looking forward to the inevitable complete ban - just wondering how long it'll take. Today's sobering statistic: one worker in the hospitality industry (read: bar/restaurant staff) dies each week in the UK from passive smoking.

Second-hand smoke is detrimental to your health, it makes for a horrible atmosphere in public places, and it gets into your clothes and hair and makes you stink afterwards. Roll on the ban! Although I have sympathy with smokers who feel they're being pushed out of public places, let's be honest, they don't (or shouldn't) have the right to adversely affect my health as well as their own.

Rich


User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

One thing that really pisses me off with the UK and US is this "nanny state" attitude. Absolutely everything in this country has been ruined by Health and Safety or some pompous minister whose sole purpose in life is to irritate everyone.

A while ago they banned King Size Chocolate Bars because some ignorant parents have let their children get fat. The problem is, if someone is that desperate to eat chocolate, they now just buy two normal size bars. So has it worked....no. Has it annoyed the average citizen....yes. The worst part of it is, is that children getting fat in this country has more to do with the government selling off school playgrounds than large chocolate bars.

I appreciate the ban on smoking, although what concerns me is that it is the thin end of the wedge and we will see more of our civil liberties worn away over time.


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Bottom line is, most people are stupid and/or lazy. I'm not breaking it down by any demographic. Probably 90% of people on earth are completely incapable of taking the necessary steps to curtail these sorts of things, so the government has to do it for them. Now, I agree that a 3% increase in tax will not likely prevent anyone from buying a hamburger, but it will hopefully fill the coffers up a bit, and let's hope that the money is used to educate people, re-open playgrounds, etc. Just to bolster my opinion on human stupidity/laziness, let me ask you, why is there advertising? When was the last time you bought a car because you saw it on TV? Don't you research cars, see them on the street, and ask friends who own one what it's like? Non-stupid/non-lazy people do. I don't need Coca-Cola to remind me that they are better than Pepsi. I know that because I've tasted it. Stupid/lazy people can't remember. Billions of dollars a year in advertising to remind stupid/lazy people what they want and need. That's why the government has to regulate.

Logan


User currently offlineAlekToronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 993 times:

I don't think the government should be regulating or extra taxing fast food. What you put in your mouth is your business and does not affect your neighbour or anybody else. That fat cow scarfing all those fries at McD's is not going to make me fat.
What all governments should do is ban smoking from ALL public places as smokers make a selfish decision that affects all those around them. I DO NOT want to inhale some nasty second hand smoke from some idiot that decides to smoke.

People it is 2004! IT IS COMMON GENERAL KNOWLEDGE that smoking and fast food is bad for you..If you do not already know this then even God or the Wizard of Oz cannot help you.

cheers
Alek


User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 994 times:

B747-4U3, when were king size chocolate bars banned? A large-size ("Big One"?) Twix is one of my favourites!

Rich  Big grin


User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 985 times:

In summary

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4015655.stm

Note that nowhere does it indicate a Fast Food Tax. Advertising junk food to kids is to be delegated to OFCOM, with a voluntary code to be tried at first.

More important is the food labelling. An overdue measure and already implemented in part by a number of retailers, especially the Co-Op chains.

The lifecoach idea is also an extension of the wellness clinics developed by BUPA and other private sector healthcare providers. It's been shown to work there so rolling it out into the wider NHS could have genuine benefits.


User currently offlineImonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 969 times:

If you read what I said properly, you will see that I said, a minister in germany preposed that idea, and no one in Britain.

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 961 times:

I like this idea. Here in the US, California has some of the world's strictest smoking bans. No smoking AT ALL in enclosed places, and not only that, you can't smoke within about 20 feet of the building. As a result, CA is 2nd in the nation (behind only Utah) in the percentage of non-smokers. It's a great place for non-smokers to be. I do understand the problems that smokers have with this, but sometimes I don't, especially when I'm crossing the street and some a$$hole smoker walking in the other direction blows his smoke right into my face.


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