RedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
Wonder what the C4 will be competing against in the next European CoTY...
I'd love to see the C4 win - Citroën is definitely rediscovering its gone-but-not-forgotten style, technical innovation and emphasis on comfort. At last, a manufacturer who is content not to chase all those Type-Rs, Cupras and GTIs (Mk Vs, at least ) in this segment, and who recognises that not everyone wants sportiness in a family car.
Just imagine, back in the days of the Xsara, Mégane I, Mk IV Golf and Astra, when the Focus was pretty much the only offering that emphasised design in any great way. Now look at today's small family hatch market... what a difference!
I'm intrigued as to what the Berlingo Multispace replacement is going to be like... should be good! Citroën's reinvention will then be complete!
Lan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1689 times:
Yikes...it looks like the Pontiac Aztec.
From my point of view, I don't understand what is Citroen thinking. I find their newest models are very trendy and fashionable now, but in 4 years more we'll think they're horrible (I'm talking specifically abou the C2 and C3). It seems they're making disposable cars.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7719 posts, RR: 17 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Citroen has always been known for its somewhat off the wall styling and technical details. But in the past decade, decade and a half, their line-up has consisted of nothing but mildly reskinned Peugeots.... not saying that Pugs are bad cars. But now by taking the generally very good PSA corporate mechinals and put the cool looking sheet metal on it.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5533 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1623 times:
I agree with you that some (many) of the past winners were rather surprising and controversial. 1986 - Ford Scorpio, 1987 - Opel Omega, 1996 - Fiat Bravo/Brava, 1991 - Renault Clio, 1998 - Alfa Romeo 156, 2003 - Renault Megane just to name a few.
However, I think that Prius really deserves it for making a hybrid engine a truly viable option. A real advancement in automotive industry.
On the other hand, I think that polls and stats like TÜV or JD Power tell you more about which car is good and which is not.
RedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 1561 times:
Ok, so I for one didn't realise that CoTY 2005 had already been announced - admittedly it was only three days ago
The Prius was a worthy winner - as ecologically sound as its predecessor, but far more practical and relevant. Perhaps in a year without the C4, Focus and Astra, the Renault Modus would have done better - however, I'm not convincec of the Peugeot 407's place in the final seven. And BMW should probably be worried...
Tristarenvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1522 times:
That whole split glass rear hatch thing is not very likeable.
The first time I remember seeing that was on the first generation Honda CRX. My Aztek has it, as well, and believe me, it takes a while to get used to the big horizontal line across the rear view mirror.
If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
Cwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 18 Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
I just cannot stand those "little" cars. I don't think a full sized truck or SUV is necessary, but these things? YUK. VW Golf rehash...all of them. Hopefully, with Focus sales waning, there will be fewer and fewer of those to look at here. And the Prius?! Hideous...Corolla out of a trash compactor.
Southside Irish...our two teams are the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs!
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5533 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1492 times:
the 1960s ended four decades ago!
US-made gas-guzzling inefficient monsters are becoming more and more kind of automotive dinosaurs. No surprise that rest of the world sees smaller, efficient cars using alternative fuels as the way of the future.
But as long as you are willing to waste your GIs and be in fact hostages of the Saudis...
25 Cwapilot: Wow...can't even express an opinion about a car without being attacked! Can't a bunch of guys discuss cars without a bunch of sanctimonious environmen
26 Springbok747: How the hell did the Toyota Prius win the European car of the year??! Its one of the most ugliest looking things I have seen...might as well award "ca
27 EGGD: I can't STAND that fricking speedometer, I can't STAND the whole rear of the car and i'd imagine its a bitch for rear visibility. What a crap car!
28 RedDragon: The DS was gorgeous, the CX fantastic, and the XM a thing from another world. *drool*