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Another Conservative Praises Adolf Hitler  
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/story.jsp?story=585368

http://www.liddyshow.us/liddyfile50.php


"at assemblies where the national anthem is played, I must suppress the urge to snap out my right arm." His beloved German nanny taught him that Hitler had - through sheer will-power - "dragged Germany from weakness to strength."

This gave Liddy hope "for the first time in my life" that he too could overcome weakness. When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it "made me feel a strength inside I had never known before," he explains. "Hitler's sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body." He describes seeing the Nazis' doomed technological marvel the Hindenberg flying over New Jersey as an almost religious experience. "Ecstatic, I drank in its colossal power and felt myself grow. Fear evaporated and in its place came a sense of personal might and power."






Perhaps this sicko (and G W Bush supporter) shares the same "core values" and "moral clarity" of Adolph Hitler.

Why does this fool have his own talkshow?


Bring back the Concorde
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User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

He's a shock jock, he gets ratings by being controversial, like Stern, and other like him.

I think you will find 99% of conservatives believe that Hitler was an idiot. I am sure that I can find at least a couple of democrats that thought Stalin was a great man, there is tape of a protester that thought that Saddam was a great guy because he provided health care for the people he didn't rape and kill.

There are idiots on both side Superfly, give it a rest trying to cast blame on the entire party based on what one whack job said.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

PPGMD:
give it a rest trying to cast blame on the entire party

Party?
What party?
I am pointing out an ideology, not a political party. I know the entire Republican Party doesn't support Hitler.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

If you are pointing out an ideology then you didn't need this swipe at the GOP to make your point:

Perhaps this sicko (and G W Bush supporter)...

And if this is your point why make this thread. I am sure that we all know that Hitler and Nazism is bad, it was ingrained in all but the most moronic during school, and the learned found out in even more depth of his horrors.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Superfly, there are extremists on both sides, both liberal and conservative.

Aside from these extremists, you'll find that conservatives and/or Bush supporters don't praise Hitler.

With the wording that you're using, you are implying otherwise, and you are dead wrong.



-NWA742


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

PPGMD:
You are erily silent when right-wing nuts here irresponsibly paint Jackson & Sharpton as racist. In fact you've joined in on the circle jerk.
There are Nazi and KKK sympathisers on the right.
Why can't you admit that?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

The same mechanism that helped Hitler into power still works the same way - people are susceptible to it, just not as vulnerable as they were back then and there.

It would be so "nice" and simple if it were just a genetically caused deformity limited to the german people; But as noted above, people actually adored Stalin and other dictators as well.

Remaining awake and strong enough not to fall for it is the key.

Bush is not Hitler, nor should they be compared. But the propaganda employed by the republican party is chillingly similar to what went down in Germany of the 1930s and before 1918. Not in the targeting of the jews - that parallel does not exist - but in the general exploitation and instrumentalization of fear. The simplification to the point of falsification.

The recognition of the parallels has been a major factor that turned germans off the Bush campaign from the beginning.

I don´t think the outcome will be the same; The USA of 2004 is not (remotely) the same as the Germany of 1914 or 1933. But I can only urge everybody to get to know the ways the Kaiserreich and the Nazis operated and how they used the emotions of the people. It is more than interesting...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

NWA742:
We all know the Bush/Germany connection back in the 1930s & 1940s. No need to bring that up again.
It's just ironic that this Hitler supporter was an ardent Bush supporter as well.

True, most Bush supporters don't like Hitler. I know that but I doubt any Nazi-sympathizers supported Kerry.

Most Bush supporters just wanted a tax cut and afraid of gay marriage. Big grin



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Klaus:
Thanks for chiming.  Smile
I think Klaus carries a lot of weight on this subject because he lives in Germany and the destruction caused by Hitler is a lot closer to home than the many fools in the gated communities, suburbs and trailer parks of the United States that supported Bush.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Probably because I don't live my life in Non-Av. For the most part I browse during my spare time during the day, which means limited time.

Anyways I strongly condemn the KKK heck if it wasn't illegal I would want to personally put rifle rounds in many of the KKK leaders (though burning their offices with them inside would be more appropriate justice), but also remember that prominent clans men have also been Democrat. And there are also Communist sympathizers on the left too. Like I said there are whack jobs on both sides.

I also believe that Jackson is a crook that should be investigated, and that Sharpton goes to far in his accusations but believes himself to be on the right path, but I do not recall in joining in any threads on that subject. If you want to talk about black rights, go ahead, that's a subject that I am not interested in because it's all rhetoric, I believe that any person can pull themselves up by their boot straps if they want to. They simply need the desire.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

You are erily silent when right-wing nuts here irresponsibly paint Jackson & Sharpton as racist

But I'm certainly not... they're correct to call spades spades.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

ConcordeBoy:
...and you've just as much as a "spade" in there eyes even if you are just half.


PPGMD:
I feel sorry for anyone who lives there life in Non-Av or Internet in general. Everyone knows that The Democratic Party was once the party of SOuthern plantation owners and Klan members.

I don't see how one can equate Communism to racism and genocide. Stalin was a sick man and genocide had nothing to do with Karl Marx's ideas.

Those who rush to flame me should be ashamed for not condenming G. Gordon Liddy.







Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

Superfly: I don't see how one can equate Communism to racism and genocide. Stalin was a sick man and genocide had nothing to do with Karl Marx's ideas.

Not directly... But the problem was that Marxism has always been thought of as an authoritarian regime, even if Marx had the illusion that "the masses" would be the dictator.

In real life, it turned out to be an "excellent" breeding ground for crazy dictators. Not that unchecked capitalism was any better in practice - but capitalism doesn´t necessarily prescribe a specific political order. It´s a bit more flexible than marxism and can somewhat easier coexist with democracy... (although it does by no means require or even just promote it - it´s democracy which often chooses capitalism, not the other way around!)


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

It is funny how the modern left always tries to rewrite history and cast the Nazis as "right wing". Anyone who has actually studied the Nazis know that they were just slightly to the right of the communists on the political spectrum. The Nazi Party (better known as the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers Party) drew most of its initial support from two groups, the lower classes of society and academia. How did they gain the support of these groups? Simple, they promised the same things as the party these two groups usually supported, the communists.

It's sad but it seems that those who like to hurl the "Nazi insult" are usually the ones closest in ideology to the NSDAP than those that they are accusing.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

B757300: It is funny how the modern left always tries to rewrite history and cast the Nazis as "right wing".

Because that´s what they were.

They used a little pseudo-socialist rethoric, which apparently is enough for you to swallow the bait.

But in all the fundamentals they were very much right wing:
- chauvinist
- nationalist
- authoritarian
- thinking in hierarchy, not community
- factually fully on the side of the industry, not on that of the workers, despite propaganda claims to the contrary


B757300: It's sad but it seems that those who like to hurl the "Nazi insult" are usually the ones closest in ideology to the NSDAP than those that they are accusing.

Judging from your usual national-chauvinistic, authoritarian and hierarchical way or thinking and arguing, you´re not one to talk.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

NWA742 said it best, and I have to back him on that one.

There's nuts all over the spectrum, folks.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

There's nuts all over the spectrum, folks.

Agreed. Then why is the thread-starter continuing to look under rocks for so-called conservative racists? What is the aim or goal here?  Insane



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Then why is the thread-starter continuing to look under rocks for so-called conservative racists?

Same reason why some conservatives look under every rock for left-wing lunatics: because they can.  Smile


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

and you've just as much as a "spade" in there eyes even if you are just half

Yes, but unlike you, I've realized that from day one  Big grin


User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

It's sad but it seems that those who like to hurl the "Nazi insult" are usually the ones closest in ideology to the NSDAP than those that they are accusing.

Just to show you something in relation to Reply #6 from Klaus to show how Bush's regime has been somewhat Nazi-esque in the use of the propaganda.



Also, 757300, Nazism is so far right of the political spectrum it is not funny. It is nowhere near Communist doctrine -- Communist doctrine does not allow for the wholesale slaughter of millions of people belonging to a particular group, even though Stalin did kill several million in the name of Communism.


User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
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"A-ha. So, Mr Liddy, do you feel that your early, formative love for Hitler shaped your political behavior later in life? "Oh, no," he says somberly. He renounces Hitler's war against the Jews as "evil" and flaunts his support for Israel's hard right as evidence he is not an anti-Semite. "It was part of my childhood, that's all," he says."

Superfly...you take an editorial written by a very biased columnist and accept his conclusions as fact, when they ignore what the object of this hatchet job said.

Terms like nazi and communist are too often thrown about here, and people like Klaus who see them under the bed at every opportunity tend to remind me of the boy who cried wolf. When they actually identify one someday no one will listen.




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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Also, 757300, Nazism is so far right of the political spectrum it is not funny. It is nowhere near Communist doctrine -- Communist doctrine does not allow for the wholesale slaughter of millions of people belonging to a particular group, even though Stalin did kill several million in the name of Communism.

Are you kidding? Nazism and Communism share many parallels. They are chillingly alike:
1. Both espouse racial superiority of the majority population in that country (whether Germans in Germany, Russians in the USSR, Han Chinese in PRC).
2. Both espouse socialism and economic nationalism.
3. Both are profoundly undemocratic.
4. Both ignore and reverse all civil liberties.
5. Both breed megaomaniacs as leaders.
6. Both are territorial expansionist.
7. Both killed millions in the name of orthodoxy.
...and perhaps most importantly,
7. Both have been defeated and discredited.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Ahhh once again the political terrorists are spinning facts and spreading propaganda. This time, agent of political terror for the Democratic Party, Superfly, uses the comments of his Republican counter part to spread fear around that anyone who isn't liberal is a supporter of Adolf Hitler, blindly following what his democratic party handlers tell him and of course casting a label on a whole group of people. Of course Superfly will deny this, but his intentions are clear as he, like all of A.net's political partisans is too transparent for his own good.

Meanwhile, agent of political terror for the Republican Party, B757300, quickly responds in kind casting all of the left as "rewriters of history", and stating that they are the true Nazis...

What is boils down to is two five year olds saying, "No, YOU are!" No, no, no! YOU are!"

No surprise here at all.

Al-Qaida, Democrats, GOP...the three most dangerous groups threatening America. Can YOU identify the agents of terror on A.net?...I can!

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Yyz717: Are you kidding? Nazism and Communism share many parallels.

One significant difference is that we´ve seen a necessarily "pure" form of nazism, but so far hardly any form of communism. Not that I´d absolutely wanted to, but what communism originally meant has very little to do with what we´ve seen implemented.


Yyz717: 1. Both espouse racial superiority of the majority population in that country (whether Germans in Germany, Russians in the USSR, Han Chinese in PRC).

Wrong! Communism explicitly denounces racism and national chauvinism. It preaches the unity of the "working masses" all over the world. It´s its primary appeal.


Yyz717: 2. Both espouse socialism and economic nationalism.

Wrong! The nazis conducted their war and the holocaust with strong support from the private german industry. Krupp, IG Farben, Degussa and many others aren´t notorious just for the heck of it! Apart from a little pseudo-socialist propaganda, there was nothing.


Yyz717: 3. Both are profoundly undemocratic.

At least in theory, communism is built on democratic principles. It was rarely done that way, but we´re talking about communism, right?


Yyz717: 4. Both ignore and reverse all civil liberties.

So did absolute monarchy, theocracy and almost all other forms of government.


Yyz717: 5. Both breed megaomaniacs as leaders.

Not really. Hitler was there before the movement. Lenin, on the other hand, was not really comparable to Hitler (no saint either, of course).


Yyz717: 6. Both are territorial expansionist.

Not comparable. Nazism sought to expand its territory by killing or subjugating the local populations. Communism always tried to distribute the ideology, but not the people.


Yyz717: 7. Both killed millions in the name of orthodoxy.

So did almost every other form of government.


Yyz717: ...and perhaps most importantly,
7. Both have been defeated and discredited.


So have almost all other forms of government. With very few exceptions, democracy being one of them.


Boeing4ever: Al-Qaida, Democrats, GOP...the three most dangerous groups threatening America. Can YOU identify the agents of terror on A.net?...I can!

I see. Pan-paranoia sure beats mono-paranoia!  Nuts


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

I see. Pan-paranoia sure beats mono-paranoia!

As opposed to your blindly following one political party like Superfly and B757300 do. Call it paranoia if you will, but the facts are undeniable. America is more divided than ever. The Democrats and Republicans have historically driven America to Civil War once before...and they will do it again unless they're stopped.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


25 Russophile : Yyz717, no I am not kidding. If you took the time to read what I wrote, instead of reading what you wanted to read, you would see that what I wrote is
26 Klaus : Boeing4ever: As opposed to your blindly following one political party I don´t see how you can judge my "blindness" in that respect. I´m always willi
27 Saintsman : Politics aside, any one who can unite a country like Hitler did is someone to be admired. Look at the original thread and see how it made people feel.
28 Klaus : Saintsman: Politics aside, any one who can unite a country like Hitler did is someone to be admired. Look at the original thread and see how it made p
29 Saintsman : Klaus, Pehaps admire was the wrong word. I'm fully aware of what he ended up doing but he had to start somewhere. From an objective point of view, wha
30 Post contains images Superfly : Klaus: He was able to emotionalize many people. And he was a fanatic. Nothing to admire. ...and that worked for many working class White Evanglical Ch
31 Techrep : Kinda like Ohio Dem. Marcy Kaptur’s comments equating Osama bin Laden’s mass murderers to patriots of the American Revolution but that's another s
32 Klaus : Saintsman: He was a great leader in the early days. Once he turned into a psycopath it was impossible to get rid of him and he was by no means great t
33 Rjpieces : It is funny how the modern left always tries to rewrite history and cast the Nazis as "right wing". Anyone who has actually studied the Nazis know tha
34 Techrep : I call these “chicken or egg” type arguments. The left needs to demonize Bush and create scare tactics to shock the uninformed or polarize their r
35 Post contains images OYRJA : One of the ads featured Hitler with his hand raised in salute, which then morphs into footage of President Bush raising his hand at his inauguration.
36 Techrep : Miscegenation is a term invented in 1863 to describe people of different human races (usually one European and one African) producing offspring; the u
37 Post contains links and images Airsicknessbag : tut tut, TechRep, aren´t we supposed to mark quotes clearly as such? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation Daniel
38 Techrep : Yes, sorry I did not provide the link. It can be deleted TechRep
39 Dl021 : FLy...nah, I think he's nuts...I just don't think he's a nazi and I believe that the appellation has been overused and therefore somewhat neutered in
40 EA CO AS : Perhaps this sicko (and G W Bush supporter) shares the same "core values" and "moral clarity" of Adolph Hitler. Why does this fool have his own talksh
41 Prebennorholm : Can't you see that it is totally irrelevant whether that idiot Liddy supports Bush or Kerry. Or if he supports me or Superfly or anybody else. It is c
42 EA CO AS : The only thing which is relevant to discuss is whether Bush or Kerry supports Liddy. You make the mistake of assuming that you have to love everything
43 Prebennorholm : No, no, no dear EA CO AS, I don't love or hate him, I just ignore him. But it's relevant to know that Bush and Kerry also ignores him. ...Bush or Kerr
44 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ConcordBoy: I don't think Agreed... though I suggest you try it sometime, works wonders
45 Post contains images EA CO AS : No, no, no dear EA CO AS, I don't love or hate him, I just ignore him. As do I - so we're in agreement there. But it's relevant to know that Bush and
46 Boeing4ever : I don´t see how you can judge my "blindness" in that respect. I´m always willing to argue and to bring evidence when required. The only reason I don
47 Post contains images Klaus : Boeing4ever: The only reason I don't completely assault you like said political terrorists on these boards. Maybe you should take your medication agai
48 Post contains images Superfly : What a mess. Only me, Prebennorholm and Klaus had the class to condemn Liddy's comments and discuss the topic at hand. One from Denmark one from Germa
49 OYRJA : Almost 600 people world wide at this site opened the thread and almost 50 replys and only two other members bothered to stay on topic and acknowledge
50 Post contains images Klaus : Superfly: and then of course me who is the voice of reason from the United States. Of course!
51 Post contains images Superfly : OYRJA: Your comments are valid and I am glad you chimed in on this thread. Like Klaus and Prebennorholm, you live in Europe and Hitler's destruction
52 Post contains images Klaus : Superfly: Why is it members from nations that make the beautiful A340 and A380 make the most level-headed post and the dumbest post comes from the sel
53 Post contains images Superfly : Klaus: but it is not the end of the world - yet. True but, however those leading us to our destruction must be taken out! Thank God for the 2nd. Amen
54 Post contains images Klaus : Superfly: True but, however those leading us to our destruction must be taken out! Thank God for the 2nd. Amendment. I am ready for war and ready to k
55 EA CO AS : Superfly, I admit I didn't read the article you highlighted...until now. And I can see that you're not above taking comments out of context to make th
56 Superfly : EA CO AS: I am hardly partisan. As far as Liddy's support for Israel today, he only says that because he hates Jews less than he hates Muslims. Very m
57 EA CO AS : EA CO AS: I am hardly partisan. So can you explain why you carefully omitted parts of the story to make it appear that Liddy currently thinks highly o
58 Boeing4ever : Maybe you should take your medication again... You´re rambling... Cute comment...same can be said for said agitators... Have a look at the issues and
59 Post contains images Superfly : Boeing4ever: Man you are comic relief. I am sorry if you hate me so much. Your post is nothing more than personal insults against me. That's fine. yo
60 Boeing4ever : I do? Do a search of ALL of my thread starters and show me some numbers to back up your claim. It's open to all members to view. If you don't have the
61 Post contains images EA CO AS : So can you explain why you carefully omitted parts of the story....... Honestly, the rules at this site seems to change constantly and are selectivly
62 Post contains images Superfly : EA CO AS: While I agree that you certainly can't cut and paste the entire story, surely you could have posted the additional one or two lines that wou
63 Jessman : Yyz717: Are you kidding? Nazism and Communism share many parallels. One significant difference is that we´ve seen a necessarily "pure" form of nazism
64 MD-90 : Obviously Superfly is no student of history. How do you think that most of the German people felt about Hitler?
65 AAplatnumflier : Man some people these days. The Germans had no other choice but to elect Hitler into office as they were in such a bad state that they had nothing bet
66 Jaysit : Its not what Liddy says so much thats revolting as the appearances on his putrid show by Republican politicians that are. Everyone (except for the ble
67 Post contains images Klaus : Jessman: Oddly enough the market system has evolved to eliminate the basic principle of proletariat and bourgeoisie. And it´s "odd" because it isn´t
68 Post contains images Rjpieces : As far as Liddy's support for Israel today, he only says that because he hates Jews less than he hates Muslims. Very much like the rest of Evangilical
69 Superfly : MD-90: Dude you have the most warped view of history. You are the only member here wish the South won the Civil War. I wouldn't go there if I were you
70 Jalto27R : There are nutcases on both sides. You want to bring up a Nazi sympathizer, why don't we bring up every member of A.N.S.W.E.R.? It's on both sides and
71 Superfly : A.N.S.W.E.R.? Never heard of them. Who are they?
72 Post contains links Jalto27R : They're the protestors who are out and about every day against the war. I believe they are now busy protesting outside recruiting stations around the
73 Superfly : Jalto27R: Thanks for the link. It mostly looks good to me. Do they have a nationwide broadcast talkshow that frequently have elected members of Congre
74 Jaysit : How many Republican law makers have gone on the G. Gordon Liddy show since its inception? 235 (Including Dole, Gramm, Gingrich, Karl Rove (a de facto
75 Post contains images Superfly : Jaysit: but who also promotes whole scale murder against US federal agents. Holy $h!t are you serious?!?! This guy should be locked up!
76 Jaysit : "If you see an ATF agent, shoot first and ask questions later - and don't shoot them in the chest, because they wear bullet-proof vests - go for a hea
77 Post contains images Superfly : Jaysit: What a shame. He has no place in society! What's more of a pity is that the Arsenio Hall show was canceled after he invited Louis Farrakhan on
78 Jessman : In fact it is the democratic system that´s usually on top of the market economy in western societies that has had some success in increasing particip
79 Post contains images Superfly : Jessman: Well you certainly give a good 'description' of laize fare capitalism but you fail to discredit the writer on the subject at hand. Economics
80 Jessman : Economics aside, Liddy's comments are only reflective of his training. Think of it this way. You are trained to flush the toilet. If you go to a count
81 Post contains images Klaus : Jessman: The democratic system and market economy evolved together. Not really. Capitalism had already existed for millenia before the first large-sca
82 Post contains images Superfly : Jessman: Don't be so quick to put words in other people's mouth. Are you saying that all non-white people should be Democrats and if they aren't their
83 Nealcg : I hate to get all caught up in the heat of all this but it is important to remember when comparing the ideologies between Nazism vs Communism that bot
84 Post contains images Klaus : Nealcg: Hitler's aims were Lebanstraum (sorry Klaus if I misspelled it) "Lebensraum" - no problem. Nealcg: Finally, I hate to correct Klaus but when h
85 Jessman : That woman is Bush's puppet and probably the only member of his cabinet to blindly defend him. I wouldn't view her as someone who thinks for themselve
86 Superfly : Jessman: Well I tried to keep the discussion with you civil but you continue to want to insult me. You're calling me sick because I don't agree with y
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