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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1620 times:





Looks great imho, both the exterior and the interior.

Sorry that the photos look a bit strange, it's because the forums automatically reisize the images to a width of 650 and ignore my width setting of 512.
To get proper images, visit this site:

http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2041208.009/mercedes/1.html

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User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Hopefully it will be better (quality wise) than the previous model which was horrible, to say the least.
Problems my girlfriend had during the first(and only) year she drove one.
-windows wouldn't go down anymore.
-airco failure
-all kind of bizarre interference with the sound system
-management computer broke down
-central lock refusing to work (4 times)
-dubious build quality (pieces that didn't fit properly, strange wind noises,etc...)
-...



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5741 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

it looks exactly like a clone of KIA SORENTO!

User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3407 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

While the exterior and interior design does look much better, i'm not a huge fan of the Kia like fender flares. Hopefully they will have relibility issues that plagued the class fixed before it goes on sale.

This will be a 2006 model.

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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

Funny when the Koreans influence the Germans......


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

I dunno what quality problems you had, but I put 75000 miles on my 2000 ML55 and never had any issues to speak of.

N


User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

I dunno what quality problems you had, but I put 75000 miles on my 2000 ML55 and never had any issues to speak of.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe your ML55 is actually an AMG version.
Maybe it has less reliability issues.
My girl used to drive a ML320 CDi and hearing from other people who also drove ,or are still driving it, she was not the only one with these issues.
I also seem to remember some comment I picked up in one of those English car magazines (TOP GEAR I believe) where they held a survey among their readers (JD Power) and the car scored very poorly.



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

My dad used to drive the ML320 CDi. It was a crappy vehicle, we had so many issues with it:

The automatic mirrors wouldn't work (most of the time).
Endless problems with the aircon (water used to drip down the sides of the vents!).
The boot wouldn't lock properly, and it swung open once when we were driving at 120 km/h! That was scary!!
The power steering fluid leaked once, and we had gooey stuff dripping all over the front cabin.

That was it, my dad just had about enough of the "Mercedes" quality and sold it.




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User currently offlineDazultra From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 689 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

In the recent Top Gear survey here in the UK, owners placed the M Class 142nd... out of 142 lol

and mercedes came 29th out of 34 manufacturers surveyed ... dont make em like they used to...



User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

One of the most stupid useless vehicles on the market along with the bmw X5, Lexus RXseries and Infinity fx35.
Overpriced piece of $h!t.
This car-based unibody vehicle has no off road capabilities.
I'd much rather go with a E500 diesel wagon if I had to have a new Mercedes family vehicle.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1440 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe your ML55 is actually an AMG version.

It was, yes.

My girl used to drive a ML320 CDi and hearing from other people who also drove ,or are still driving it, she was not the only one with these issues.

Hmm. The CDi ML isn't available in the United States. Maybe there are some differences?

I think they are offering CDi in the other platforms this year. I wish more cars were diesel.

N


User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3407 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1436 times:

I think they are offering CDi in the other platforms this year.

The E320 CDI is the only CDI model offered in the United States.

The E320 CDI Sedan does not meet the emissions requirements of California, Maine, Massachusetts, New York or Vermont and is not available in these states.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1430 times:

That's really too bad because I'd like to see a new diesel Mercedes on the market here.
At least MB can do that right.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1424 times:

Isuzu with the Mercedes star. No thanks on this Daimler product.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1422 times:

By the way, is this M class supposed to be there Aztec chaser?  Laugh out loud

It's a shame that the new emissions laws here in California wont permit the CDI engine yet it's more efficient than the M-class and G- class.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Yes but those emissions laws is what will keep this earth healthy for our posterity.....

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

AAplatnumflier:
Re-read post #14 and think about it.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

As much as I like MBZ sedans, I would never consider purchasing such a Rhaa of vehicle. 80% if not more of these cars will never see off-road conditions and will pollute city centers with their higher emissions. What's the use of shift-on-the fly
4WD, higher ground clearance, etc..., if you don't use them ?

UTA



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

"This car-based unibody vehicle has no off road capabilities."

It shares the same plattform with the next-generation Mercedes G-Class. I'd hardly call that car-based, or would you deny that the current G-Class is one of the best off-road vehicles one can buy (not counting off-road only vehicles that aren't suited for the street)?


User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

M isn't getting much support in this thread. poor thing.

shame, because I think it's fantastic. quite a physical improvement from the last model and a more sleek, aggressive stance.

So what if it looks like a Sorento. If a Sorento and the new M pulls up next to you, I'm sure you'd be able to tell the distinct different.
a benz is a benz.

I'm buying a C-Class sport now, and plan on upgrading to this M-Class in 3 years.
Unlike a lot of people, I am very happy with the direction Mercedes' design is going............as compared to BMW.

best of luck to the M.



Maintain own separation with terrain!
User currently offlineArniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Inbound,

Don't get me wrong, I also like the mercedes design lately, they make some beautiful cars (not all of them).
I only have some doubts about how they are handling quality and after sale services.
They start to look like some Italian (for all you Italians don't feel offended because I still have 2 Ducati's and absolutely adore these machines) car manufacturer, a car with a soul (how it looks,how it handles) but badly put together and that most certainly is a shame because a lot off these top end cars are being used in every day working life and they do have to be reliable in these circumstances.



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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

I tend to agree with Superfly about the "utility" of these vehicles.

The new M class is a dead ringer for the Chevrolet Equinox, at probably half the price.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

Stretch 8:
"dead ringer"

That's the name of my friend's band!  Laugh out loud  Big thumbs up

This looks a lot like a Chevrolet Equinox too.


Racko:
OK so it's based off a more substantial frame but it will never be used as a utility vehicle. This will be driven by high maintenance trophy wives in the suburbs. This vehicle is nothing to get excited about.
It's a shame that the company that's given us the amazing 6.9, Pullman limousine and 560SL is churning out this sort of crap now.  Sad



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

Mercedes build quality has gone to hell. Our local police force started replacing their Range Rovers with Merc M class vehicles, and rues the day they ever thought of it. The RR is now back on their shopping list and the Mercs are to be dumped as fast as money permits.

Plus it's yet another boring jellymould.


User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Me likey likey.
I'm not really an SUV kind of guy, but that's a pretty sweet lookin' SUV.

G


25 KateAA : Looks great. My Mum had one a while ago, the AMG... Wonder if they will do the AMG on this one? Will it be built in the US like the current M Class? H
26 RayChuang : Speaking of diesel engines, you will see them 50-state legal for cars once the US completely switches to low-sulfur motor fuels by September 2006. Thi
27 Post contains images Superfly : RayChuang: Hey Ray, great to see you in the car threads. Hows life treating you in the South Bay? About this new low-sulfur diesel; will they have to
28 707cMf : Franckly, those high tier SUV look like an oxymoron to me. Are they designed as luxury vehicles (clean and shiny) or offroad vehicles (on the mud agai
29 Post contains images UTA_flyingHIGH : About this new low-sulfur diesel; will they have to succum to smog checks? Low-sulfur diesel does not get rid of particulates. Wait until these cars b
30 Post contains images Superfly : Bio-diesel all the way! I've seen more than a dozen Bio-diesels here in San Francisco. I've seen old Mercedes 300TD, VW Dashers, and even a 1979 Oldsm
31 707cMf : Diesel is getting less and less interesting for me. As I am going to live in the city, I am really looking into a cheep petrol car. Diesel is really n
32 Racko : The M-Class will be made in the enlarged Tuscaloosa factory in Alabama. (They upgradged it from 80k units/year to 160)
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