Juanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1921 times:
It is Ralph Shummacher no doubt about it.
Where the hell did this Pablo crap come from?
That is his second name, you see, here it is usual to use the whole name of a person, for example my name is Juan Jose, for us he's always been Juan Pablo Montoya. I hope next year he can close your mouths with an outstanding performance, we'll see.
Nosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
I'd agree with BA757 on Button, espcially after Autosport named him driver of the year over Schumacher. Granted Button is an excellent driver, but he does bleed and he can't walk on water! I'd say both of the 2004 Williams drivers were a bit overrated, espcially when JPM seemed to imply he didn't need to test much in the winter of 2003! DC is DC, so yeah. Jacques won't be doing much for Sauber. Trulli I think was underrated this past yr. But I think most drivers on the grid, no matter who they are, are overrated until someone can challenge Ferrari!
Juanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
The former is the most disgusting representation of this country; inside his car he sucks, and outside of it he is just an arrogant spoiled bastard. What a shame.
You are the bastard here little man, JPM sucked this year because he had no car to drive, when he finally had he won the race in Brazil. As for his attitude outside the cars why do you care about it? he is damn good, he knows it and his behavior show it.
Perhaps what some people do not like about him is that he also knows that he doesn't owe anything to anybody but his father, no one looked after him when he began, only when he won in Europe, the Car series and the Indy 500 those lagartos started to appear, but he knows that he made it by himself and did not give credit to all that people.
Finally, if he were the most disgunting representation of this country why would million of Colombians wake up every sunday morning to see him race? More disturbing is to lose a medal in the olympic games because you are doped.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
JuanR I have to disagree with you on some of this. I think your compatriot SOUTHAMERICA was a little harsh in his description. Probably most F1 drivers are arrogant. I'd be if I was that good!
But the thread was about "overrated" and to me that means much promised and little delivered. Juan Pablo did very well here in the US and impressed most of us. Perhaps the press did him a disservice in over-hyping his move to F1. He was supposed to unseat Michael and so on. Well, for the time being, Michael and Ferrari are all but unbeatable. I'd hate to be a first-rate driver like Juan Pablo or Mika Hakkinen or some others who might have been champions if only Michael did not exist.
But JPM has finished behind people he should have beat in cars he should have beat. I don't know what the reason is but he just does not shine in F1 like he did in CART. Lots of promise + not much podium = overrated.
I disagree with the idea that he does not owe anyone anything. He owes podium finishes to his employer. In turn they owe him the best car they can deliver. We have a saying in the US: "It is a poor workman who blames his tools." Michael has won races in Ferraris that were outclassed by McLaren or Williams or on tires that were not the best. He did it on talent.
Last; those millions of Colombians are lucky to get to see a local driver race when they get up early on Sunday to watch an F1 race. But they get up early for pretty much the same reason I do - it is the race. Wish I had a US driver to cheer on.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
You put it just right. And believe me, this stupid hype about him was everywhere here in Colombia [fortunately everybody is now really seeing that he is not half of what the biased media says] as if there weren't many things here in Colombia already (natural resources, great writers, good artists, gorgeous ladscapes) to be proud of.
JPM is just down to the typical "hero of the kids" here [poor things] as he has everyone fed up with his cocky arrogance.
Again, you put it just right, and fully agree with you.
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