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Experiencing Some Serious Voter's Remorse Lately  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Lord, as of late... I look at the Bush Administration, and grimace.

I mean, sure I'll always love them for the sole reason of giving continental Europe the finger; but man, what a bunch o' screwups!


Don't get me wrong now-- every day, I thank the lord almighty that John Kerry never got anywhere near the White House.... but still, why this? Wasn't there SOME better alternative than either of those loons?  Yeah sure

I content myself to say that my vote wasn't for Bush, but rather against Kerry; but still, I'm almost to the point of wishing I'd never cast a ballot for the guy regardless (still wouldn't have voted for Kerry though  Laugh out loud).



Considering that not-voting is NOT an option for me, and a 3rd Party vote is a wasted one.... just didn't see much alternative. This really sux.  Crying


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I voted for Bush, but the last president I voted for that really geeked me, that I was truly excited to vote for, was Reagan.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

ConcordeBoy: I mean, sure I'll always love them for the sole reason of giving continental Europe the finger; but man, what a bunch o' screwups!

Sure, we´re pretty disgusted by the bloody stump you´re so consistently waving in front of our eyes. But was that really worth cutting off your own hand?

I doubt it, to be honest...  Nuts


I myself didn´t find the superficial presentation of the Kerry campaign all that convincing; But you missed a great opportunity to make a big step upwards in substance. Too bad you didn´t recognize it.

You´re paying a pretty steep price, all in all. Or rather you are detachedly watching other people pay the price for you.  Sad


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

And here I am thinking that Bush's re-election wasn't the end of the world.

Pity about Kerik though.

It would have been good to have an interesting politico in DC for a change, what with his mafia connections and his two mistresses. I guess we're just stuck with the likes of limp-wristed mean Frist and yapping Pelosi.


User currently offlineVneplus5 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

You made your bed, you lie in it. I'll remind you of that fact next time there's a major terrorist attack in Iraq, or when the US death-toll goes over the next even hundred (whichever comes first).

We told you so, we were right, and here's a big 'international peace sign' straight back at you, Boy.

Signed,
Continental Europe


User currently offlineKiwiNanday From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

Why do we always have to bitch about politics? On a universal scale, I don't think that whoever is President makes a big difference....

User currently offlineVneplus5 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

On a universal scale, I don't think that whoever is President makes a big difference....

Correct, simply because of the total lack of any political landscape in the USA. You can thank McCarthy for a big chunk of that, and many others since.

Kerry was right-wing, and Bush is ultra-right-wing. It always makes me chuckle when someone calls Kerry or the Democrats 'left-wing'  Wink/being sarcastic

Guys, the world looks at your president and laughs.... unless of course we are unfortunate enough to live in a part of the world with oil, and then it's time to be afraid.. very afraid of 'WMD' being miraculously discovered in the cellar.  Big grin


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

I have found WMD's in Colorado. Come eat at the Fort Lewis College cafeteria and you will see what I mean. Biological warfare at it's finest right there.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

CLARIFICATION:



... I didnt do a good enough job of explaining this in the opening post, so let me rectify that:

I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy-- the primary reason I wanted nothing to do with Kerry.

It's their DOMESTIC policy that's wearing me down.


User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Concordeboy:

When the next two or three justices retire, you will suddenly remember why you voted for Bush and how lucky is America that the Pelosy, Kennedy, Kerry bunch is not calling the shots to fill the vacancies at the Supreme Court.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

The main reservation I had about voting for Bush was the fear that he'd see almost any margin of victory as a "mandate from the people."

Anyone listen to his victory speech?

Ah, mister president, more people did NOT vote for you than did. The only reason you are in there for another for is because even more people did NOT vote for Kerry.

The only virtue government may have is its absence.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

No, that's particularly when he's going to regret it the most.

When the next two or three justices retire and get replaced by radical religious zealots, and America becomes the next Iran, people are going to wonder how it happened.

N


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

For once... Piggie's dead right  Crying

User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

You guys just need more than two major candidates to vote for. Not the left of looney party or to the right of purgatory party, just solid options, then you would
actually voting to get somebody in, and not voting to keep somebody out - which is different entirely. That isn't real democracy when you aren't voting for what you want. That said ConcordeBoy you did vote, and wouldn't consider not voting so that is good. Hopefully this election has taught the US something although ever the cynic, If you can't learn after Bush's first term then there's not much chance. We can Hope though.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy-- the primary reason I wanted nothing to do with Kerry.

It's their DOMESTIC policy that's wearing me down.


You are more interested in the foreign policy of your country, rather than in the domestic policy which affects you, as an American citizen, directly  Confused.

 Nuts

Patrick


User currently offlineDan-air From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy-- the primary reason I wanted nothing to do with Kerry.

You "love" Bush's foreign policy eh? I would respectfully suggest that you put your money where your mouth is and get your lame ass down to the nearest recruiting office, so you can experience Bush's foreign policy up close and personal.





User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1639 times:

Hey, be happy you guys had a say in this election. I missed it by a month.  Sad
Being in New Jersey, it probably wouldn't have mattered, but I still would liked to vote.



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

You are more interested in the foreign policy of your country, rather than in the domestic policy which affects you, as an American citizen, directly

...droll that you equate agreement or disagreement with various aspects of governmental leadership, to the amount of interest invested therein  Nuts



I would respectfully suggest that you put your money where your mouth is and get your lame ass down to the nearest recruiting office, so you can experience Bush's foreign policy up close and personal.

To which I'd jocularly retort with "that's what people who'd otherwise work at Walmart are for"  Big grin


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

when you are not american and have lived there like myself...and see a sign in the town u work in on a window of a house that says "House for rent, NO BLACKS"

then you wonder how it is that this is the country that tries to impose freedom and advancement in the civilized world.

Countries and regimes are like children, they learn by themselves by mistakes....a so called "bad" country isnt going to turn good by force...a child that doesnt do his homework will never really start doing it on his own because he is forced to like it....

I find lately that i do not know what an American person is...with the melting pot that it has become moreso than earlier decades...who is bush representing in the world....2nd and 3rd generations of people from Europe, combined with hispanic pour.... pretty soon the whole usa is gonna be mostly hispanic, and then they really arent gonna give a damn about foreign policy and it's going to be a great shame.
Wake up bush....you and your dad went into Iraq, while the very streets of some of your own cities are more dangerous than some in the middle east...tisk.



The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

You wanted the GOP in office Fred, so quit bitchin' about the fact that they won't let you get married...


Live life to the fullest.
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy--

With all respect, CB, how can ANYONE in their right mind love a policy based on fear-mongering, starting a war that had no business being fought, and pissing off 95% of the globe in the process?

That's not good policy. That's just not having a clue.

And remember, CB, you voted for Mr. Bush. And besides, that was about the biggest flip-flop I've ever seen in trying to act like you're pisssed off. Real lame.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21470 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

Avek00: You wanted the GOP in office Fred, so quit bitchin' about the fact that they won't let you get married...

Some people visit their dominatrix... others just vote republican...  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11660 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

People go around bitching they had no choice in who to vote for so they voted against the guy they didn't like.

What a crock!

Even though Nader was not on the ballot in Oregon, I could have very easily written him in! It's called a democracy, people! A majority of the people in Ukraine did not like the outcome of their elections so what did they do? Rally! They now have a chance to have they leader they want. What does this country do? Well, since the media declared Bush the winner, he must be...

For the record: I voted for Kerry because he had a better domestic agenda than Bush.

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

And besides, that was about the biggest flip-flop I've ever seen in trying to act like you're pisssed off. Real lame.

...um, huh?





People go around bitching they had no choice in who to vote for so they voted against the guy they didn't like.

What a crock!

Even though Nader was not on the ballot in Oregon, I could have very easily written him in!


....not entirely cher. Were this 1984, that could be a justified course of action when you consider both of the mainline parties' candidates to be incompetent boobs.

With one this close, a 3rd party vote is essentially a vote for whomever you have the most oppositon theretoward.


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Considering that not-voting is NOT an option for me, and a 3rd Party vote is a wasted one.... just didn't see much alternative. This really sux

I think that a large percentage of voters in both parties would agree with you on that point. Kerry wasn't the top choice of the Dems., and there were were Republicans that likely switched and voted for Kerry.

Remember that rarely does a presidential candidate come along that has cross-over appeal and and can truly lead. In my lifetime, I would say that only Reagan and Clinton had that. Some older than me might argue that JFK did as well. Does Howard Dean have the same appeal/charisma? Doubtful. Jeb Bush or Bill Frist? Uh uh, nodda.



25 Post contains images Falcon84 : Steven, excellent points in your post. Amazing, some of the political similarities between Reagan and Clinton: both were glib, dynamic governors; both
26 N317AS : Kerry = more substance?? WTF???
27 MaverickM11 : "You wanted the GOP in office Fred, so quit bitchin' about the fact that they won't let you get married..." Why can't I bitch about the GOP not lettin
28 4holer : Pilotaydin' You said:"when you are not american and have lived there like myself...and see a sign in the town u work in on a window of a house that sa
29 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Kerry = more substance?? WTF??? My point exactly: the man had NO discernable substance whatsoever, hence my zeal in voting against him. Bush may be a
30 Klaus : With an entire administration visibly "winging it" without any substantial foundation for their failing policies, it´s not really hard to see where p
31 Pilotaydin : 4holer = i dont understand people like you. So if it sounds incompatible to your logic, i probably made it up? What kind of mature western are you? Th
32 Virgin744 : ConcordeBoy, I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy-- the primary reason I wanted nothing to do with Kerry. I hate to inform you b
33 Gigneil : He likes Bush's foreign policy because he's a racist. He doesn't care about the end of terrorism, he cares about the destruction of other cultures in
34 Tbar220 :
35 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : not to mention the most naiive and narrowminded too! Not really: I completely understand the ramifications thereof-- problem is (from your perspectiv
36 Falcon84 : ConcordeBoy, a little rhetorical question: did you really think, in Nov of 2000, just before that election, that Bush would have such an overtly agres
37 Seb146 : That was another reason for voting for Kerry. He had the best chance of changing what we saw as wrongs done by the current administration. What has Bu
38 MaverickM11 : "He likes Bush's foreign policy because he's a racist." Explain.
39 AA777 : I absolutely LOVE the Bush Administration's foreign policy-- the primary reason I wanted nothing to do with Kerry.
40 ConcordeBoy : you don't have the first freaking clue what the foreign policy of Kerry would have ended up being Friggin' BINGO! ...couldn't have said it better. And
41 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Just to clarify again folks, based on some of the [hate] email I've received over this..... ...look, I dont care that the dude makes faces like a monk
42 Seb146 : You are right... the tax cuts the president is so proud of went to the richest Americans and not those that could actually use them: the working class
43 ConcordeBoy : and not those that could actually use them: the working class. Correction: and not those who could least effectively apply them to the maximum benefit
44 Seb146 : My bad about the Afghanistan statements. But there is still the very real threat of attacks in our country from al-Qaida. That could have been cut off
45 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : But there is still the very real threat of attacks in our country from al-Qaida. Agreed That could have been cut off in the mountains of Afghanistan.
46 Seb146 : It really bothers me that I have been working for the past 14 years and have to pay anywhere from half to full out of pocket for a simple routine exam
47 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : How about using some of my tax dollars to also lower the cost of medicine instead of paying for renaming an expressway in Pennsylvania that I will nev
48 Alessandro : At least the US$ is low value now, so US goods become cheap here in Europe and soften the high oil price, all thanks to GWB...
49 Post contains images OYRJA : Sorry guys.. But this was just hilarious [Edited 2004-12-17 15:43:39]
50 Sebolino : I mean, sure I'll always love them for the sole reason of giving continental Europe the finger Actually, that's Europe that gave Bush the finger, and
51 ConcordeBoy : Actually, that's Europe that gave Bush the finger, and he can still feel it in his bottom, and he will until Iraq will be stable. And here ya have it
52 Pilotaydin : invading Iraq and paying american troops for this, in NO WAY explains nor causes more freedom, or defending of freedom on mainland usa.... it simply d
53 SFOMEX : I can relate to the millions who hate Mr. Bush because of his foreign policy, but I also understand why most Americans couldn't care less about it. An
54 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Bush has a strong sense of family ...correction: straight family. He'd sooner decimate all others. decency ...as the DUI proves and compassion ...for
55 AA777 : Lol... Concordeboy, do you want to pick a side on your own debate? I guarantee you, you would have seen a much happier world if Kerry was elected. Ins
56 MD-90 : The U.S.'s imperialism must end. I whole-heartedly agree.
57 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I guarantee you, you would have seen a much happier world if Kerry was elected. Um cher, why in Allah's name would I care? incumbent president who aim
58 AA777 : You would care if kerry were elected because certain social rights would not be witheld in this nation.... -AA777
59 AAplatnumflier : Yes but a lot of peoples reasoining for voting for Bush was that there wouldnt be changes in the cabinet....and guess what only four will end up being
60 Post contains images Avek00 : At the end of the day ConcordeBoy, I can get married anywhere in America and you cannot, and the government leadership YOU voted into power will work
61 Yukimizake : "I'll always love them for the sole reason of giving continental Europe the finger"" This confrontational type of attitude so typical in US foreign po
62 AAplatnumflier : My guess.....15 trillion dollars debt....one could argue that Clinton set us on the path for this...but i say Bush didnt help
63 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : You would care if kerry were elected because certain social rights would not be witheld in this nation.... ...the hell are you talking about?? Kerry a
64 AAplatnumflier : Hey atleast u agree with me on two things
65 N1120a : >But first go through the smaller courts first as we learned from the Marbury v Madison case.15 trillion dollars debtone could argue that Clinton set
66 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Not particularly, because he turned the deficit into a mass surplus, created smaller and more efficient government, and kept the debt growing slower t
67 N1120a : >...Clinton, or the Congressional shift of '94? Hmmmmm
68 ConcordeBoy : Gonna have to agree to disagree on that... we would have national health care now Why are you types so afraid to call what you want by its true identi
69 Post contains images 777ER : A few months ago I had my first vote The person that I voted for, for Mayor was re-elected for the third time in a row.
70 Post contains images Avek00 : "Ergo, blatantly put: the notion that gays in the USA would be granted free-access to the altar had a Democrat been elected in the recent election, or
71 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Unfortunately for you, I DID NOT make that assertion in my previous comments uh huh... suuuuuuuuuuuuuure you didnt
72 Seb146 : the notion that gays in the USA would be granted free-access to the altar had a Democrat been elected in the recent election, or in any foreseeable fu
73 Post contains images Avek00 : "uh huh... suuuuuuuuuuuuuure you didnt" Read my responses carefully and you will see that nowhere did I state that the Democratic Party would have ins
74 Gigneil : What is the difference between a 'civil union' and 'marriage' anyway? Exactly! A great point. The bottom line is the government should divest itself o
75 ConcordeBoy : What is the difference between a 'civil union' and 'marriage' anyway? Seems you described it well enough as is: C.U. is the "business end" of marriage
76 Post contains images SFOMEX : Seb146 wrote: "It is a fallacy. Gays just want to be able to walk into a courthouse or town hall, sign a piece of paper, pay $60 or whatever and walk
77 Avek00 : "Be smart picking your fights and go for civil unions." As a political scientist by training, I'd argue that brains and the gay rights movement haven'
78 Gigneil : I bet you make your girlfriends cover their heads and faces in public, too, and don't allow them to speak, eh? Osama bin Laden is looking for people l
79 Blackbird1331 : What is of most importance is that no one from A.net ran for office.
80 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I bet you make your girlfriends cover their heads and faces in public, too, and don't allow them to speak, eh? *restrains self from commenting*
81 Rjpieces : I'm with ConcordeBoy on this issue. As Senator Henry Jackson once said, "I'm a liberal but not a damn fool." Or in the words of Ed Koch, I'm a "Libera
82 ConcordeBoy : I have realized that foreign policy and the challenges faced today are more important than domestic policy. I often get nailed by both the Black and G
83 Gigneil : Except that Bush is failing on execution. The reason you both support his foreign policies is that you're both blatant racists. Concordeboy for no app
84 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : and you'd see that someday we might actually NEED some of that political capital we're wasting in the international community. ..."in", or "on"? [Edit
85 Gigneil : In, whore. As is obvious from our trade deficit, we need the rest of the world or we'll be unable to feed, clothe, and heat our citizens. N
86 AA777 : My guess.....15 trillion dollars debt.... Um, noooot quite m'friend Well, you do the math....every day, the U.S. goes $2.2 BILLION into debt from othe
87 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : who blatantly lied to the American people Please don't open that can of worms. You know that's not true, and we'll waste another 20 posts debated its
88 Post contains images AA777 : Believe what you like, but may I present this little political cartoon that I found on Yahoo. I like that one, its a real kicker.... you would think t
89 N229nw : Gigneil, The reason you both support his foreign policies is that you're both blatant racists. Concordeboy for no apparent reason, and RJPieces becaus
90 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : I'm no racist... I'm just misanthropic in general, there's a difference
91 Avek00 : "You should be locked away with the other potential terrorists." Frankly, I find the notion of likening someone who wants to see an issue settled deci
92 Gigneil : That's because you're blind to what actually makes America a place worth living in. You should be prepared to fight in whatever way is necessary to en
93 AAplatnumflier : I would get into this but I wont just for the sake that I will be told that what ever I am saying is uncredible
94 Avek00 : "legislation may prevent me from attaining equal access to protections under the law" If Congress was looking to pass a law banning gay marriage, then
95 SFOMEX : Gigneil: I do respect your opinions. I can tell that you really care about this and everybody should respect that. Yet, you should double-check your r
96 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : You don't hesitate to call other names that are truly offensive: whore, racists, bigots ...but if you noticed, he pretty much reserved these terms sol
97 Yukimizake : "If Bush decides to press for a gay marriage amendment ban again, this time it WILL pass .... So the gay marriage issue would be settled definitively
98 Gigneil : as the people are entitled to express their desires for who society should be run through the amendment process. No, they aren't. I mean, sure they ca
99 Avek00 : "Aren't you black? Surely some part of you is happy that you 3/5s folks are allowed to dine at the same restaurants with the "whole" Americans." Indee
100 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Hate to say this Piggy, but he just hit on something.... and for once, it wasn't some white chick who wouldn't give him the time o' day. I've been say
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