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So It Begins: Congressman Warns Of Iranian Attack  
User currently onlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6031 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

WASHINGTON - A senior Republican congressman has been warning America's intelligence community for more than a year of an alleged Iranian plot to crash commercial airliners into a New Hampshire nuclear reactor.

http://www.nysun.com/article/6231

Even though the NY Sun is veery low on the list of credible sources, I thought this one was nice.

I wonder if they'll pull another "either you're with us, or you're against us" on the Democrats in the 2006 votes. After all, it worked so fine in 2002.

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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Sigh, I really hope this won't happen. I think invading Iran would be, by FAR the stupidest thing this administration could ever do. Yes, the government is full of jackasses, but there is the whole younger generation of young people in Iran that don't wan't this government. The US should give financial/moral support to these people rather than invading and turning Iran's opposition against us.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Yup, I agree with Msdh00, invading Iran would be really stupid. Iraq and Afghanistan are still in chaos, and add Iran to that...wow, that would be a recipe for WW3.




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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

Well, I've screwed up the American economy and the Iraqi economy...

Maybe 3rd time's the charm?  Confused  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

That would be pretty stupid.
Let the young Iranian generation take care of removing the government. And when that has happened I'm sure Iran will change to a muchbetter place in the future.


User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

Well we have come this far, why not go for it all !!! I don't think Iran would do anything like that. It would give Dubya a GOOD excuses to attack Iran with nukes !!! Right now he's still looking for ideas on how to do it. I would put money on a attack on Iran before he leaves office.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently onlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6031 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

An interesting twist on what DC10guy said, though I can't remember where I read it (might have been on one of the other forums I frequent):

Iran has repeatedly stated during the recent nuclear spectacle, that if its nuclear reactors were bombed, regardless if it was US or Israeli aircrafts who did it, they would respond by bombing Israel with its rockets, which we know they have.

If Iran did bomb Israel, Dubya would be the first to release the nuclear codes and attack Iran (what else is he gonna use? The US army is pretty stretched & conventional bombs only goes so far).


User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

Iran has repeatedly stated during the recent nuclear spectacle, that if its nuclear reactors were bombed, regardless if it was US or Israeli aircrafts who did it, they would respond by bombing Israel with its rockets, which we know they have.

Given the options Pres.Bush has, i highly doubt any invasion would occur. If the damage is really bad, Tehran would probably be nuked. If it's not so bad, Washington will destroy the government infrastructure using bombers, and the Navy, paving the way for another revolution, in hopes of one in the US's favor.
Even if Clinton were in office now, i really doubt he would handle such an event any different given the curretn circumstances. BTW, bfore any Israeli city is struck, Tehran would be in the 17th century.



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Washington will destroy the government infrastructure using bombers, and the Navy, paving the way for another revolution, in hopes of one in the US's favor.

Unfortunately, the only thing which would occur is a new generation of people hating the US. In my opinion, Iran is a paper tiger. Leave the regime change to the intelligent Iranian people.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2160 times:

wow, that would be a recipe for WW3

...get with the times, we're already in WW4  Yeah sure


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14130 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2155 times:

Another thing is that China is currently closely cooperating with Iran. The reason is that China at the moment needs all cheap oil it can get. Also, both Russia and China are not interested in any strengthening of the US position on the Asian continent.
Plus, the Al Qaeda story wont catch concerning Iran. The majority of Iranians are Shiite Muslims, who are regarded as heretics by the Wahabi Muslims, who make up the leadership of Al Qaeda. There is no love lost between those two groups and AFIK, Al Qaeda members get hung in Iran.

Jan


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2146 times:

fix the usa before u fix iran...

illegal immigrants
drugs
racism
poor education in some southern areas
unsafe neighboorhoods

not a good record for a leading promoter of peace and development.....



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User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2131 times:

I'd like to see the US go into Iran. It wouldn't be like fighting a rag-tag army a la Taliban Afghanistan, nor would it be like fighting a large army which has been decimated by a war 10 years ago and sanctions, a la Iraq. It would be a bloodbath, not only for the Iranians, but also for the Americans. Would make good viewing on CNN, as I have seen all the blood and gore movies in my local video library, and could do with something more real to life to get my socks off on.

User currently offlineSabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2724 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2138 times:

In the end those warlords in Washington might claim there simply was a spelling mistake in the President's briefing on WMDs: It should have read IRAN iso IRAQ...  Nuts

Yeah, go ahead, take Iran too now!
I mean, Afghanistan went really well and Iraq was even more of a outright success, so why not quickly attack that annoying county in between to fully 'stabilize' the hart of the Middle East and see a democratic belt of states emerge while at it? After all :you have to ride the tide, don't you?





User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

...get with the times, we're already in WW4

So, what was WW3 then? Iraq? Or was (is) it the Israeli-Palestine conflict?



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

Nope, think harder comrade...  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Practicalities.

If (I know this is a huge if) there was an invasion of Iran, how overstretched would the US forces be? Given there's 130,000 troops in Iraq at present, how well could the US cope with another major war? I'm not suggesting military defeat or anything like that, but surely it would be impractical to start another major campaign at the present time? Sure, the US could cope if it absolutely had to, but this isn't WWII where two fronts are in place because it's a battle for survival.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

but this isn't WWII where two fronts are in place because it's a battle for survival.


Actually, by the very nature of its design... the USA military was intended to be able to fight on two wholy separate fronts plus retain sufficient force to defend the homeland.

...'course, intention and reality can be two separate concepts.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

That's pretty much what I mean, Concordeboy. Whilst the US is very definitely capable of doing so in a world war scenario, that's very different to the situation we find ourselves in the modern world. Given the overall peaceful state of the world, how practical would it be?


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

i would like to see america try it with north korea, they would give one hell of a fight, real soldiers there not saddam loyalists. but it`ll never happen as america is in nuking distance of north korea so im sure bush will be too scared to pick a war with someone that would really fight back

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

...get with the times, we're already in WW4

Nope, think harder comrade...


Man, C'boy really is a true fan of innuendos.

(insert joke here)


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Oh my goodness, concrete evidence! You know, having an interest in aviation I would've thought the supposed target to be Seattle (SEA) rather than some obscure nuclear reactor in the middle of nowhere..

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

A contiuance of the "let's scare the American people into submission" plan by the GOP. This is going to be their theme as long as they can milk it. They certainly did so during the last eleciton campaign.

User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Well, WW3 was the cold war, I guess WW4 is the new religion war.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8735 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Well, if it does happen, we'll see the same people defending it that defended the war in Iraq, that's for sure. Only that they're going to be claiming how much has been learnt from Iraq... thing is, had anything been learnt from Vietnam, no one would ever have gone to war in Iraq in the first place. Reassuring, isn't it?


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25 Post contains links and images Prosimtec : Combine the crux of this thread and this story. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6716176/ Another "take over", be it overt or covert, may indeed be in the
26 Scotty : The majority of Iranians are Shiite Muslims, who are regarded as heretics by the Wahabi Muslims, who make up the leadership of Al Qaeda. There is no l
27 SlamClick : Hey, I have a great idea! Let's change all the laws and treaties and foreign policy positions here in the USA to something that Iran and the other Isl
28 Post contains links Rjpieces : SlamClick, Do I see you volunteering to abandon your car(s?) so that the US isn't dependent on foreign oil? I didn't think so....Your plan is all nice
29 MaverickM11 : "I've screwed up the American economy " It's doing just fine thank you.
30 Derico : The US could conceivably bomb Iran, but it most certainly cannot invade it with it's current military power. The only way it could is if the US as a c
31 SlamClick : Well Rjpieces since I don't believe you actually read my entire post since your response to it was so wildly inappropriate, let me just tell you this.
32 MD11Engineer : With the US forces already overstretched in Iraq, no new Allies in sight to come and help out in an Iran invasion and the countries about 3 times as b
33 ConcordeBoy : Well, WW3 was the cold war, I guess WW4 is the new religion war. Bingo
34 Cfalk : I have no desire to see the U.S. invade Iran for many reasons. I don't think the U.S. military is up to the job alone without causeing an unacceptably
35 Post contains images Commander_Rabb : Would make good viewing on CNN, as I have seen all the blood and gore movies in my local video library, and could do with something more real to life
36 MD11Engineer : Charles, I think too that sooner or later we´ll see a terrorist nuke going off in a major city in the world. I just hope that the powers that be will
37 Commander_Rabb : I think too that sooner or later we´ll see a terrorist nuke going off in a major city in the world. I just hope that the powers that be will take ti
38 Pilotaydin : "Wow, you have these problems too? Yet you are no superpower? Damn that's so unfair!!!!!!!!" yeah we have those problems too, which is why my country
39 Rlwynn : "You had better hope that it does not happen in the United States for if it does there is the potential for economies around the world to be ruined an
40 Post contains images L.1011 : Hmmm...so Russophile wants to see American soldiers die. Nice. Truly glad you're so in favor of peace and the fundamental rights of life, liberty, and
41 JetService : However, I wonder what you all will say when a terrorist nuke goes off in New York or L.A... It's going to happen one of these days. Unfortunately it
42 Srbmod : Why do we just combine Iran and Iraq and call it Irate. You think the Muslim fundamentalists hate us now, imagine what would happen if we bombed Iran?
43 Russophile : This my friends are the rantings of an insane person. What sane person would want to see that happen? You didn't pick up on the sarcasm in my post? So
44 Cba : As previously stated, the current Iranian government is living on borrowed time. Give Iran 5 years and we're looking at a new government. Invading wou
45 Rjpieces : SlamClick, my apologies...That's what I get for reading A.net before I've hopped in the shower. "Mecca was once here." If they want that said it will
46 Post contains images Russophile : There is ABSOLUTELY NO moral equivalency between US soldiers and Iranian soldiers. Sure there is. You are truly an enemy of freedom if you can say wit
47 Dc10guy : Iran has nothing to worry about. Just because Dubya has them surrounded. They should all relax, put up their Christmas trees and celebrate the holiday
48 CPH-R : Iran claims that they need to develop the nuclear material for power plants. Iran is a major oil supplier, why do they need to develop nuclear reactor
49 Rjpieces : They should all relax, put up their Christmas trees and celebrate the holidays. Do you see any irony in this statement about a Muslim country....?
50 MD-90 : More proof that the biggest threat to world peace is the United States Federal Government. There is ABSOLUTELY NO moral equivalency between US soldier
51 Post contains images CPH-R : MD-90 - is this the point where you ask what kind of impact a Nuclear Reactor can withstand?
52 Post contains images MD-90 : Obviously not one delivered from payloads carried by Israeli F-16s.
53 777236ER : An attack on Iran, in any form, would never be supported by the UK. Would the US be prepared to go in alone, with only Israel's support?
54 KYIPpilot : Would the US be prepared to go in alone, with only Israel's support? Not without a draft here in the US. Even then, I just can't see the US prevailing
55 Clickhappy : Wait until the US attacks Iran, and then the Russians launch a few SS-N-22 Sunburns at our carrier group, then things will get interesting
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