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U.S. Cancels Iraq's $4.1 Billion Debt  
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Here is the link to the article.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/17/iraq.main/index.html


You can cut the irony with a knife
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User currently offlineTechrep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

When your trying to steal Iraqi oil, I guess it's important to cancel all the debt first and install a government picked democratically.

TechRep


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Yeah that is why we went to war, cheap oil! Then why am I paying more to fill up my car each and every time I pull into the gas station.......


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2537 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

like this should be a surprise......it was about time they announced it...we all knew it was coming....


The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 847 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2481 times:


We all know Mr Allawi is a puppet for the US Govt.
If he wins, there be democracy in Iraq.

0,02

Micke/SE  Insane



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User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Talk about giving support to a new government. Only America in the world today has such power!

Here's to the people of Iraq!


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Yes, Rabb, because the interest of the Iraqi people is all the US is looking out for, right? And only America has such power to destroy a country than support a puppet government they put there.

Here's to the WMDs!


User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Here's to a peaceful Iraq!

I realize some of you scoundrels don't want that because in the end the U.S. may come out looking good? Perish the thought.

Get real.


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

Yes Rabb, i'm more concerned with the image of the US than whether my friends' families in Baghdad are going to be able to live in peace anytime soon. You know, the universe does not revolve around the US, as much as you'd like to think it.

Anyway, at least something in your post was (*SHOCK*) intelligent.

To a peacful Iraq, and may all the innocents killed in this conflict rest in peace.

I'm off to bed.


User currently offlineJetMechMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 380 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

"Here's to the WMDs!"

Your right QR332, we were stupid for invading, we should have waited until Saddam was finished. Then he could have blown up half the Middle East, and our invasion would have been legitimate.




Friday, Oct. 8, 2004 11:16 a.m. EDT
No WMD Stockpiles in Iraq? Not Exactly ...

Is it really true that Saddam Hussein had no "stockpiles" of weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invaded in March 2003?

Not exactly - at least not if one counts the 500 tons of uranium that the Iraqi dictator kept stored at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant.

The press hasn't made much of Saddam's 500-ton uranium stockpile, downplaying the story to such an extent that most Americans aren't even aware of it.
But it's been reported - albeit in a by-the-way fashion - by the New York Times and a handful of other media outlets. And one of Saddam's nuclear scientists, Jaffar Dhia Jaffar, admitted to the BBC earlier this year, "We had 500 tons of yellow cake [uranium] in Baghdad."

Surely 500 tons of anything qualifies as a "stockpile." And press reports going back more than a decade give no indication that weapons inspectors had any idea the Iraqi dictator had amassed such a staggering amount of nuke fuel until the U.S. invaded.

That's when the International Atomic Energy Agency was finally able to take a full inventory, and suddenly the 500-ton figure emerged.

Still, experts say Saddam's massive uranium stockpile was largely benign.

Largely? Well, except for the 1.8 tons of uranium that Saddam had begun to enrich. The U.S. Energy Department considered that stockpile so dangerous that it mounted an unprecedented airlift operation four months ago to remove the enriched uranium stash from al Tuwaitha.

But didn't most of that enrichment take place before the first Gulf War - with no indication whatsoever that Saddam was capable of proceeding any further toward his dream of acquiring the bomb?

That seems to be the consensus. But there's also disturbing evidence to the contrary.

David Kay, the former chief U.S. weapons inspector who was hailed by the press last year for pronouncing Iraq WMD-free, shared some interesting observations with Congress this past January about goings-on at al Tuwaitha in 2000 and 2001.

"[The Iraqis] started building new buildings, renovating it, hiring some new staff and bringing them together," Kay said. "And they ran a few physics experiments, re-ran experiments they'd actually run in the '80s."

"Fortunately, from my point of view," he added, "Operation Iraqi Freedom intervened and we don't know how or how fast that would have gone ahead. ... Given their history, it was certainly an emerging program that I would not have looked forward to their continuing to pursue."

Kay's successor, Charles Duelfer, also has confirmed that nuclear research at al Tuwaitha was continuing right up until the U.S. invasion, telling Congress in March that Saddam's scientists were "preserving and expanding [their] knowledge to design and develop nuclear weapons."

One laboratory at al Tuwaitha, Duelfer said, "was intentionally focused on research applicable for nuclear weapons development."

Still, most experts say that Iraq was nowhere near being able to produce nuclear weapons, which is a good thing, considering how much raw material Saddam had to work with.

Writing in the London Evening Standard earlier this year, Norman Dombey, professor of theoretical physics at the University of Sussex, walked his readers through a simple calculation:

"You have a warehouse containing 500 tons of natural uranium; you need 25 kilograms of U235 to build one weapon. How many nuclear weapons can you build? The answer is 142."

Fortunately for the world, Saddam didn't have the nuclear enrichment technology to convert his 500-ton uranium stockpile into weapons-grade bombmaking material.

Or did he?

After he was captured by U.S. forces in Baghdad last year, Dr. Mahdi Obeidi, who ran Saddam's nuclear centrifuge program until 1997, had some disturbing news for coalition debriefers.

He kept blueprints for a nuclear centrifuge, along with some actual centrifuge components, stored at his home - buried in the front yard - awaiting orders from Baghdad to proceed.

"I had to maintain the program to the bitter end," Obeidi said recently. His only other choice was death.

In his new book, "The Bomb in My Garden," the Iraqi physicist explains that his nuclear stash was the key that could have unlocked and restarted Saddam's bombmaking program.

"The centrifuge is the single most dangerous piece of nuclear technology," he writes. "With advances in centrifuge technology, it is now possible to conceal a uranium enrichment program inside a single warehouse."

Last week Dr. Obeidi warned in a New York Times op-ed piece that Saddam could have restarted his nuclear program "with a snap of his fingers."

Perhaps the 500-ton stockpile of nuclear fuel that Saddam kept at al Tuwaitha wasn't quite as benign as our media like to pretend.




"I get along great with nobody"~ Billy Idol
User currently offlineThecoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

Good, now the Iraqis have one fewer excuse to whine and complain.

It's up to them to build their country; not us. They have every opportunity they need to succeed. If they're not able to build their country with our support, they'll simply get what they want, and deserve.



User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Talk about giving support to a new government. Only America in the world today has such power!

Here's to the people of Iraq!


Yes, here's to swindling a billion from the American taxpayer.

God, you are gullible. That's OUR money they forgave. What a crock of shit this is.

Here's to a peaceful Iraq!

HAHAHAHAHA! A peaceful Iraq? After this invasion that we started a year and a half ago, and you want to raise a toast to a peaceful Iraq. God Almight, you just take my breath away sometime.


User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

JetMechMD80:

Nice to see you posted a link to your little article.

Now let's have a look at this article itself:

"Not exactly - at least not if one counts the 500 tons of uranium that the Iraqi dictator kept stored at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant. "

Complete and utter bullsh!t! Saddam did not have 500 tons of uranium. The UN Weapons Inspectors had this material and did not have enough time to move it out of the country, because Mr Bush was so eager about invading the place!

"The press hasn't made much of Saddam's 500-ton uranium stockpile, downplaying the story to such an extent that most Americans aren't even aware of it."

Perhaps because the press, unlike the author of this 'article', haven't misunderstood who actually was in control of those 500 tons of uranium? Just a wild guess....

"And one of Saddam's nuclear scientists, Jaffar Dhia Jaffar, admitted to the BBC earlier this year, "We had 500 tons of yellow cake [uranium] in Baghdad.""

Oh, they sure had it! Until the UN Weapons Inspectors came along and took it!

"Surely 500 tons of anything qualifies as a "stockpile.""

How about 500 tons of bullsh!t?

"And press reports going back more than a decade give no indication that weapons inspectors had any idea the Iraqi dictator had amassed such a staggering amount of nuke fuel until the U.S. invaded."

What a strange sentence! To the writer of this 'article', the 'fact' that in 10 years time no media ever reported that the weapons inspectors knew Saddam had this material proofs that these inspectors didn't know. WTF? That sentence is false twice: the Weapons Inspectors did know what Saddam had and took it from him and the media DID report about it.

"Activities of the IAEA Iraq: [As of October 1997 the IAEA had completed a series of 30 inspection campaigns in Iraq involving some 500 site inspections and utilizing more than 5000 person-days of inspector resources] ... [The IAEA also arranged for and supervised the removal from Iraq of all weapon-usable nuclear material --essentially highly enriched uranium (HEU) research reactor fuel-- and accounted for and placed under its control, all other known nuclear materials -- some 500 tons of natural uranium in various chemical compounds and some 1.8 tons of low enriched (2.6 %) uranium dioxide.".
(Source: http://www.iraqwatch.org/un/IAEA/iaea-facts-042502.htm
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull442/article3.pdf)

"That's when the International Atomic Energy Agency was finally able to take a full inventory, and suddenly the 500-ton figure emerged."

If the IAEA didn't come up with the 500 ton figure until after March 2003, how come a 2002 U.S. "National Intelligence Estimate" says: "Iraq has about 500 metric tons of yellowcake and low enriched uranium at Tuwaitha, which is inspected annually by the IAEA?" Or did the 'writer' of this 'article' forget about that?
(Source: http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd.html)

"Largely? Well, except for the 1.8 tons of uranium that Saddam had begun to enrich. The U.S. Energy Department considered that stockpile so dangerous that it mounted an unprecedented airlift operation four months ago to remove the enriched uranium stash from al Tuwaitha."

Where it had been succesfully monitored for years by the IAEA and UNMOVIC, the author of the 'article' conveniently forgets to mention.

"Last week Dr. Obeidi warned in a New York Times op-ed piece that Saddam could have restarted his nuclear program "with a snap of his fingers.""

Mr Obeidi is the only Iraqi claiming this. I wonder if he's related to Ahmed Chalabi...

"Perhaps the 500-ton stockpile of nuclear fuel that Saddam kept at al Tuwaitha wasn't quite as benign as our media like to pretend."

Nice final sentence for an article, if only it were correct. Everybody knew about these 500 tons at Tuwaitha. They had already been discovered ages ago by UNSCOM and the IAEA. The fact that the author of the 'article' hasn't been able to find any press-report on that finding, only indicates that the author isn't very well-informed on this issue and nothing else! What's worrying is that there are still people out there that actually believe this crap!



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2386 times:
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jetmech....I would like a source reference for that article.

I will also say that unless an actual wmd is produced or used somewhere it will be difficult to find a european on this forum who will support the invasion of Iraq. They have set their minds about this and will not admit that the behaviour and past history of deception and murderous activitly of the Hussein government was adequate reason for the invasion. They would rather get hit first so that they can react in righteous anger.

Forgiving the debt is putting our money where our mouths are. We are setting them up for success, and to do any less would be irresponsible if we want to see Iraq succeed.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

I will also say that unless an actual wmd is produced or used somewhere it will be difficult to find a european on this forum who will support the invasion of Iraq.

ROTFL. Gee, since it was THE REASON GIVEN, I wonder why that is? You're getting as bad as B757300 on here in some ways, with your denial of what is and what was.

What part of what the Administration said leading up to this fucking war didn't you understand?

We are setting them up for success, and to do any less would be irresponsible if we want to see Iraq succeed.

Gee, that's nice. Why don't we just fogive EVERYONE'S debt, so we can set them up for success?

Can I throw up now?


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

The current price of gas is due mainly to the huge world-wide demand and the lack of the ability to process crude oil. There is plenty of oil available if it we were only able to process it.

That doesn't diminish the desire of the US to control the oil industry. Firmly establishing themselves in Saudi Arabia and Iraq guarantees that at least some of the world will be forced to deal in American dollars when they trade in oil. That, is the main underlying reason to insert themselves into the oil industry whenever and whereever they can.

Bush doesn't care how much the average American pays for car gas. He is much more concerned about the collapse of the US economy if the US dollar loses any more ground to the Euro and countries start to liquidate their US dollar reserves.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Well the US was forced to, since Russia and France among other members of the Paris-club had done it. Interesting would be to see the US debt to the Irani gov with interest, over 20 years since US froze the assets...


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

JetMachMD80,
Your right QR332, we were stupid for invading, we should have waited until Saddam was finished. Then he could have blown up half the Middle East, and our invasion would have been legitimate.

There isnt any evidence of him even trying to build up WMDs, and you went in making it sound like the world was doomed tomorrow. Dont change what has already been said by Bush and the US now.

Whats the source for this article of yours? And if what you were saying is true, why isnt it being reported all around the world? I like how this source of yours seems to have better investigation skills than the UN inspectors, too.

Thecoz,
Good, now the Iraqis have one fewer excuse to whine and complain.

The Iraqis have every reason to whine and complain, after what you've done.

It's up to them to build their country; not us. They have every opportunity they need to succeed. If they're not able to build their country with our support, they'll simply get what they want, and deserve.

No, it is up to you. You fix what you broke, Iraq has been completley devestated due to the war of lies you started. What they want and deserve is not an invasion based on bullshit.


User currently offlineThecoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

QR332: Thecoz,
Good, now the Iraqis have one fewer excuse to whine and complain.

The Iraqis have every reason to whine and complain, after what you've done.

It's up to them to build their country; not us. They have every opportunity they need to succeed. If they're not able to build their country with our support, they'll simply get what they want, and deserve.

No, it is up to you. You fix what you broke, Iraq has been completley devestated due to the war of lies you started. What they want and deserve is not an invasion based on bullshit.


Right, it's all my fault.  Yeah sure

The bottom line is, the Iraqis will make their choices as a country. Their fate is in their hands, and they're doing a pretty pathetic job of rebuilding their country so far.

They like to think that they are hurting the Americans, but they're hurting themselves.


User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

There isnt any evidence of him even trying to build up WMDs

*cough*5,000 Kurds gassed*cough*


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

L.1011: *cough*5,000 Kurds gassed*cough*

You don´t get it, do you?

The claim was that Saddam had been developing new WMDs after his old ones (such as those you were erroneously referring to above) had been dismantled and the remains locked up by the UN and IAEA inspectors.

And as we all know now (except you, apparently), there was nothing of that sort going on, except a marginal range increase by the Al Samoud missiles which were already being destroyed by the UN inspectors before Bush had Iraq invaded.

Tough luck, eh?  Nuts


User currently offlineDavid b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2300 times:


Right, it's all my fault. Yeah sure

The bottom line is, the Iraqis will make their choices as a country. Their fate is in their hands, and they're doing a pretty pathetic job of rebuilding their country so far.

They like to think that they are hurting the Americans, but they're hurting themselves.



Damn right its your fault. Remember we invaded based on lies. We lied to the world. WMDs my ass. Fate of their country is in our hands and we have to rebuild what we destroyed. Like it or not, the USA lied, USA invade now you like most other pathetic Americans, shift blame to others. Take some damn responsibility and admit this is all the fault of the USA.



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

The people who are complaining that the debt doesn't matter blah blah, are the same people that would complain if we did not relieve the debt.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

DL021:

"They have set their minds about this and will not admit that the behaviour and past history of deception and murderous activitly of the Hussein government was adequate reason for the invasion."

Then why the story about the WMD's, Dl021? Then why did the U.S. desperately seek a UN Security Council resolution stating that Saddam did not comply with earlier resolutions ON WMD's? And why lauch a pre-emptive war to remove a dictator after he's killed thousands of people and after he's been acting like a terrible oppressor?

"They would rather get hit first so that they can react in righteous anger. "

Hit by what? By one of his WMD's out of his extremely large stockpiles?

Airplay:

"That, is the main underlying reason to insert themselves into the oil industry whenever and whereever they can."

Not only that, it is also the mere access to rich ME oil-fields for the next decades which is extremely important, to Worldwide economy in general and to US hegemony in particular.


Thecoz:

"The bottom line is, the Iraqis will make their choices as a country. Their fate is in their hands, and they're doing a pretty pathetic job of rebuilding their country so far."

Ever since the first bombs fell on Baghdad, their fate is in Bush's hands, the U.S. is responsible for them. What's more, the pathetic job of rebuilding their country as you call it, was and still is the responsibility of Bush since he single-handedly launched the pre-emptive (and illegal) war which lead to all this destruction in the first place.



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineThecoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Damn right its your fault. Remember we invaded based on lies. We lied to the world. WMDs my ass. Fate of their country is in our hands and we have to rebuild what we destroyed. Like it or not, the USA lied, USA invade now you like most other pathetic Americans, shift blame to others. Take some damn responsibility and admit this is all the fault of the USA.

David, let me make myself clear on one point:

An entire year before this whole invasion started, and Bush was going all ape-sh*t over the invasion, do you remember how the majority of Americans we're all for it?

It goes to show how blatently ignorant people can be.

It pisses me off that my tax dollars are going toward this retarded quagmire, but it is even worse when you're blaming me for it. I had nothing to do with it.

It's Bush, and his daddy, along with the other 50-some million goons who decided we need four more years of absolute bullsh*t.

Point the blame in the right direction.


25 EGGD : The Bush administration formally canceled Iraq's $4.1 billion debt to the United States on Friday and urged others to do the same to help the country
26 JetMechMD80 : Hans Blix Reports That Iraq Is Not In Compliance With UN 1441 By Rick D. Since Hans Blix gave his report to the United Nations on Friday, February 14,
27 JetMechMD80 : Here is the link to the earlier article. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/8/112447.shtml
28 JetMechMD80 : How did these end up in a scrap yard? Iraq was not supposed to have them to begin with. Missile engine find stirs concern over Iraq proliferation By E
29 JetMechMD80 : Here is some more interesting reading, with photos. http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html I know this is not goi
30 Vafi88 : So let me get this straight... Bush and friends are trying to 1) invest in the war 2) raise the spending for homeland 3) raise the spending for educat
31 Falcon84 : I know this is not going to convice anyone. The only way to convice some of these people would be if they found a ICBM, with MRIV warhead in front of
32 JetMechMD80 : Open your eyes, they have found everything they need to build the weapons. I guess thats not good enough for you.
33 JetMechMD80 : Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:42 a.m. EDT WSJ: Precursor WMDs Stockpiled in Iraq Far from being an isolated incident, yesterday's discovery in Iraq of an
34 Schoenorama : JetMechMD80: The bottom-line of this whole "Is-this-an-illegal-war-or-not" issue is whether Saddam was actually complying with UN resolutions or not.
35 JetMechMD80 : No I get it, I don't think you do. If Iraq has provided the necessary cooperation in 1991, the phase of disarmament under Resolution 687 could have be
36 Falcon84 : Open your eyes, they have found everything they need to build the weapons. I guess thats not good enough for you. You're right, it's not. You see, you
37 JetMechMD80 : ONE artillary shell-and you're going all the way back to May! Hello??? Where is the rest of the iceberg?? I haven't seen it yet. Maybe one shell was w
38 Post contains links Schoenorama : JetMechMD80: Nice to see how conveniently use what Blix said before the war to justify that no WMD's have been found after the war. BTW, nowhere does
39 Post contains images Klaus : JetMechMD80: Iraq was inviolation of Resolution 1441 Hans Blix said it in his own words. You´re wrong. Blix reported some minor infractions, the larg
40 Post contains images Falcon84 : According to the Journal, Iraq Survey Group head Charles Duelfer recently told Congress that some of Saddam's WMD facilities were newly built and cont
41 JetMechMD80 : Another soul filled with abject fear and paranoia. No fear or paranoia here, you know nothing about me. I have been there, have you? As for your state
42 Falcon84 : No fear or paranoia here, you know nothing about me. Nor you me. Yet it didn't stop you from making idiotic generalizations about me, did it? What do
43 JetMechMD80 : Yeah and you ignored my question, First off Iraq was already in violation of Resolution 1441, I have already shown you that, but you refuse to accept
44 Falcon84 : First off Iraq was already in violation of Resolution 1441, I have already shown you that, but you refuse to accept it. No, they weren't, insofar as t
45 Commander_Rabb : You know alphafalcon? You are obsessed with Iraq and the United States being there. What are you doing about it if you hate it so? Vote for Kerry? Wr
46 JetMechMD80 : No, they weren't, insofar as the fact he HAD no weapons, which was the key thing, the tripwire for war. Sorry, but that's the truth. The truth is, how
47 Falcon84 : You know alphafalcon? You are obsessed with Iraq and the United States being there. Obsessed? No, not at all? Angry that we did what we did? Yes, abso
48 Pilotaydin : "History has already proven a few things" 1. Saddam scamed the UN - and the US owes them how much? wait...the UN=US...to is it a shock someone from th
49 Falcon84 : its a veteran thing, you wouldn't understand. I may not understand it like you do, but, trust me, I think I understand it more than you might think. I
50 Commander_Rabb : As usual I am not impressed with any of your answers. So you did all three. Big deal Mr. Impact. What has it gotten you but a chimpanzee thumping a ch
51 Pilotaydin : winning? imposing democracy to an area that isn't ready for it will only hurt you....the usa may know what's best for Iraq, but the mentality that you
52 JetMechMD80 : If that entire nations hasn't been searched in 18 months of war, The UN had 8 YEARS, they still couldn't do it. Do you have any Idea how large Iraq is
53 Commander_Rabb : i bet the oil prices will mysteriously drop after control is complete with iraq....i wonder why... Why? It's called stability. There's nor freaking my
54 Pilotaydin : i wouldnt compare education to my side of the world with yours my friend.... stability? you havent gotten it at all.....oil prices will fall bc the US
55 JetMechMD80 : most americans dont know a damn thing about islam or iraq or the middle east situation Maybe so, of course, the s**theads who chant "death to America"
56 Post contains images Commander_Rabb : i wouldnt compare education to my side of the world with yours my friend.... LOL youre kiding! And the leading Universities are where...in Ankra? LOL
57 Falcon84 : As usual I am not impressed with any of your answers. So you did all three. Big deal Mr. Impact. What has it gotten you but a chimpanzee thumping a ch
58 Commander_Rabb : And I'll just sit back and laugh at people like you. Well there's something concrete and productive. What do they call it? Hot air? whooooossh
59 JGPH1A : Great. Now how about cancelling the debt of some of the countries that AREN'T perched over a gazillion barrels of oil, and who therefore AREN'T in a p
60 Commander_Rabb : Now how about cancelling the debt of some of the countries that AREN'T perched over a gazillion barrels of oil, and who therefore AREN'T in a position
61 Post contains images Falcon84 : Commander, you're not even worth dignifying anymore. Your so far up Bush's arse that you'll never see the light of day. I'll do the most laughing at s
62 JGPH1A : Wow! Now you want the United States to just give everything away? No just have a sense of perspective. For the price of a single B2, about half of Afr
63 Post contains links Schoenorama : JetMechMD80: "Nothing to do with the War on Terror? Paying Scuide Bombers families with money skimmed from the UN oil for Food Program, has nothing to
64 Arrow : "BTW: In WWII Germany did not attack us. Italy did not attack us. Using your logic, we should have never fought in Europe or North Africa during WWII.
65 Post contains images Yu138086 : Since Iraq is now a USA protectorate and will be for a very long time, its only logical they do what suits themselves. Afterall, you cant expect Iraq
66 Pilotaydin : "I will cut you some slack as English is certainly not you first language" I don't need you to cut me slack, and you shouldn't have to get personal wi
67 Techrep : Pilotaydin, also....the LEADING universities may be in the united states, but those are statistics.....I graduated from the LEADING university for Aer
68 Pilotaydin : i dont see where on earth you get that i hate the united states, nor do i see where you pull it out of that i came there to suck. The fact is, aviatio
69 Post contains images OYRJA : Pilotaydin, You might as well get used to it. If you don't agree with the current administrations policies you are an antiamerica that hates the US He
70 Falcon84 : I still get to know that I'm an anti american. But I just laugh at it You can laugh at it. I'm stuck with living with this redneck, narrow world-visio
71 Post contains images OYRJA : You can laugh at it. I'm stuck with living with this redneck, narrow world-vision as exemplified by Corporal_Rabb. Oh yeah you can count on me laughin
72 Techrep : And likewise if you agree with this administration your of course a redneck? TechRep
73 Falcon84 : Techrep, if I can be called a traitor for not being for the war, I can call Corporal_rabb a redneck. Turnabout is fair play. And yes, a large portion
74 Post contains images OYRJA : And likewise if you agree with this administration your of course a redneck? Well, He did win all the redneck states didn't he
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