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Two French Hostages Released In Iraq  
User currently offlineChrisdigo From Sweden, joined Oct 2003, 181 posts, RR: 5
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

After four month of captivity, the two French journalists that were helded hostages were Released today in Iraq. Finally!



They're heading back to Paris and should arrived Wednesday.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=349222

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20041221.FIG0272.html

http://www.chesnot-malbrunot.com/

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

On French radio, French politicians are already praising the success and wisdom of French foreign policy for getting them back, directly refering to the poor wisdom of Italy and Great Britain, who saw some of their hostages executed.

Charles


User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Did the French Government pay the terrorists a ransom for the Two Hostages safe realease

regards
aerlingus330



Aer Lingus Airbus A330-300
User currently offlineChrisdigo From Sweden, joined Oct 2003, 181 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Aerlingus330: Did the French Government pay the terrorists a ransom...

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/041222/w122244.html

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=7162952

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3218,36-391826,0.html

Cfalk: French politicians are already praising the success and wisdom of French foreign policy for getting them back, directly refering...

This is you own interpretation: self congratulation neccesarely implies critics to others?


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

This is you own interpretation: self congratulation neccesarely implies critics to others?

That was NOT my interpretation. That was precisely what some government minister said on France Info, referring directly to the British and Italians. No interpretation needed.

Charles


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

self congratulation neccesarely implies critics to others?

So what?
Whats not to be self-congratulatory about?
The whole world knows that France was against the so-called coalition of the so-called willing.

Maybe all Western journalists in Iraq should wear a T-shirt that says "Don't take us prisoner; we're French."

What is really offensive is when Blair and Bush (the two Boobs) engage in self-congratulatory prattle even as their citizens continue to be slaughtered.


User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

Glad to hear they were released. Wasn't this the group that wanted France to drop the ban on the headscarfs?

User currently offlineChrisdigo From Sweden, joined Oct 2003, 181 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Solarix: Wasn't this the group that wanted France to drop the ban on the headscarfs?

Yes it was. That was previously discussed here:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/624219/


User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

If what is reported is correct, the hostage "keepers" were praying for Bush to be reelected.
He and his admin have been the best promotion platform they could dream of.
AQ reportedly would be present today in 60 countries and growing fast.

notes:
a/ I said "IF"...
b/ one of the two Frenchies is perfectly fluent in Arabic


User currently offlineChrisdigo From Sweden, joined Oct 2003, 181 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

Iakobos: If what is reported is correct, the hostage "keepers" were praying for Bush to be reelected.

Praying is a big word but they basically said they were for Bush.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/12/24/france.hostage/

For French speakers, I recommend you the excelent paper of Georges Malbrunot, one of the 2 ex-hostages relating his 4 month detention on the newspaper Le Figaro, for which he was working:

"I lived in Ben Laden Country":
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20041224.FIG0218.html

"You'll be freed tonight":
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20041224.FIG0027.html

"They told us :do not come back in Irak":
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20041224.FIG0023.html

"Better to consider the worth case scenario":
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/20041224.FIG0042.html


Their liberation is a beautifull Christmass gift. They were really lucky to made it alive. Also, let's not forget the 30 or so other hostages of various nationality actually beeing held in Irak.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

I'd put good money that these "journalists" were never actually captive. Most likey they were running around with the terrorists just like the other French reporters who videotaped the attempted shoot down of that DHL A300 departing from Baghdad. The French reaction (bashing the U.S., U.K., Italy, etc.) and their healthy appearance makes their story of being held by force even less credible.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

B757300, babbling propaganda as always... did you even consider the possibility that the photo of them looking healthy might have been taken before they were taken hostage?


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

I'd put good money that these "journalists" were never actually captive

Yeah, sure. And no 757 hit the Pentagon, it's only a conspiracy set up by the CIA...



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
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