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Reggie White, Dead At 43  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Seems the good lord was finally ready for 'im... died of a massive coronary this morning.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142580,00.html



Dude was annoying as hell; but he stood up for what he believed in no matter what who said, and didn't hurt anyone in the process...

...so RIP Reggie, I'm sure you'll be missed

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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5981 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

and didn't hurt anyone in the process...

Except for the millions of gays & lesbians who he said were:
Liars, Cheaters, hurting children, killing americans, backstabbers, malicious people, a sodomite community, responsible for STD's, the biggest sinners, having problems, hurting the US of A, wrong in wanting rights.

 Insane


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Yeah. I can see your point...

....guess growing up gay & Southern Baptist in the DeepSouth (i.e., hearing that sorta stuff about gays 24/7/365); I've become so immune to being blamed for every problem on Earth that I don't even notice it anymore  Sad


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Guess he didn't pray hard enough. I didn't respect him very much. God didn't either I guess.

User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4382 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

Guess he didn't pray hard enough. I didn't respect him very much. God didn't either I guess.


Wow, what kind of logic is that?

Anyway, Reggie is a much beloved Packer and im sure we'll be hearing about this much in the upcoming week here in Packer nation. Dealing with his ministry, when his TN church burned down sometime back in the 90's, there was an overwhelming outpouring of donations and support for a new church- a few years later we learned the money didn't go to its promised use. None the less, RIP Reggie.



The Best Care in the Air, 1984-2009
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

He was a good person with strong morals, you can't fault him for that.

RIP Reg.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineCaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

"when his TN church burned down sometime back in the 90's, there was an overwhelming outpouring of donations and support for a new church- a few years later we learned the money didn't go to its promised use"

and ...

"He was a good person with strong morals, you can't fault him for that"

Interesting contradiction there. I wonder what Aa61hvy considers "strong morals" in a person?



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

I didn't say I agreed with HIS morals, but he obviously had something he believed in and stood firm with.


Go big or go home
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

So did Hitler.

User currently offlineCaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

That's called being stubborn, which isn't a good quality. Oh well.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

Both valid points, gentlemen.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineCaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Nice to see you're not as stubborn as Reggie.  Big grin


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

This man stood up for what he believed in. He was ordained a minister at age 17. His comments against gays has been widely reported, of course. But he spoke out against all sin. He was a good man, and a man of god. May he rest in peace.


Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineCaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Stretch 8, I don't know much about him, but I was intrigued by the comments suggesting that money donated to rebuild the church was not used for that purpose. If he was so good and a man of God, do you have an explanation for this? I just want to learn more about the situation, that's all.

I just find some religious leaders are extremely hypocritical, and from the little that I know, it seems Reggie was just another one of those.

Cheers!



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1619 times:


Anyone remeber the speech he made a few years ago, where he attempted to speak about racial unity by using every racial/ethnic sterotype possible as examples? That speech killed his career prospects as a TV analyst.

Regardless, RIP Reggie.



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

where he attempted to speak about racial unity by using every racial/ethnic sterotype possible as examples?

Yup. Sad thing was, I think he truly believed in it all.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6787 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Reggie White is one of the all-time greatest defensive players in NFL history. He was one of the most critical additions to the Packers and along with Wolf, Harlan, Favre and Holmgren quite literally resurrected the franchise.

His heart was even bigger than his on-field play. Reggie cared for all people, of all stripes, and he later admitted his speech didn't come across the way he wanted it to. Big deal-- so he's not an orator. And some of you are going to rake him over the coals for it. And CPH grossly mischaracterizes Reggie in that he was always the first to condemn the sin, NOT the sinner. If you can quote otherwise, go ahead. Until then, don't slander the dead.

And the money that people gave to rebuild the churches was bilked by a crooked "reverend" who was later convicted of several felonies. Reggie thought it was legit. Again, his heart in action.

Reggie White's signing in Green Bay is inarguably the greatest free agent signing in NFL history as well. I'll miss him a great deal....the Packers announced that they are going to retire his number 92 entirely, an honor that in the hallowed history of the Packers includes only 4 players.


User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

You guys can think what you want but I think that it is really sad and it is a loss to the NFL. It was a man who stood up for what he believed in...thats it....

User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

It's not slander if it's true. White vilified gays on multiple occasions, not just one time. His own wife blamed his inability to get a job as a TV sports analyst on the "sodomite" community. In the wake of the adulation the press is giving him, it's fair for those who have been hurt by his actions to speak up.


I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

It was a man who stood up for what he believed in...thats it....

That alone doesn't make it a good thing at all.... remember, so did Hitler/Stalin/Mao


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1530 times:
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I think that to compare Reggie White to Hitler is a completely uncalled for insult thrown by people who are uniformed and have perhaps done a one page google search on the man.

White walked the walk, and whatever his feelings towards homosexuals, and his use of racial stereotypes, he never harmed anyone, and did a tremendous amount of good. His intentions were good, and most of his actions followed this. His measure can be taken in his dominance on the football field, and by his actions since then. If someone can name something he did that harmed others and show how it outweighed the good he did, then call him whatever you want. Barring that, give it a rest and leave the guy to rest in peace.



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User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

With all due respect, DL021, White's words were very harmful, and added celebrity fuel to a fire of bigotry against gays that is still far too prevalent in sports and society in general. However he tried to justify himself, his words were a clear expression of not only disapproval, but malice as well. Does it negate the good he did? No, but it tempers the rush to canonization that he's being given by his fans and the media. May he rest in peace, but not with a whitewash of his actions while alive.


I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
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I agree with you that his life should not be whitewashed, but there seems to be a gleeful rush by some to damn any recently deceased person that they feel acted against them in any way.

White also later openly regretted his words causing hurt. I do not know if he recanted as openly but he did not say anything similar in public again.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

Sorry but the White/Hitler comparison was in very poor taste.

I don't recall Hitler only making 1 speech.



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1500 times:
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AS we know there are those on these threads who react hysterically and use the Nazi/Hitler accusation easily and often. They obviously do not really understand the difference between reality and hysteria.


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25 Falcon84 : The guy made one statement that wasn't very bright, and some idiots on here lable him in the same group as Hitler? He lived a good, decent life; he wo
26 Post contains images S12PPL : He was a biggot. Plain and simple. He loved to chime on about how good he was, and how in touch with the lord he was. I will be interested to see what
27 Falcon84 : He certainly wasn't a bigot, if you heard about the community work he did. That's just sour grapes, sounds like, from someone who didn't have the tale
28 S12PPL : LOL!! Do some research chief.
29 DL021 : Beyond your extensive one page google search, can you tell us where to find this information? Oh, and the cause seems to have been a lung ailment acco
30 Boeing4ever : Maybe you should do some research S12...seems like you're only good at shooting your mouth off and getting yourself into hot water. You'll note that R
31 Gigneil : He was a good man, and a man of god. "A man of god" doesn't judge his fellow man. He was an evil man, and will burn in hell for all eternity under "ch
32 ConcordeBoy : He certainly wasn't a bigot, if you heard about the community work he did How does community work negate his clear and blatant bigotry, poorly-conceal
33 F9Widebody : He was an evil man, and will burn in hell for all eternity under "christian law". Gigneil, this is the second time recently I have heard you say that
34 PHLBOS : I first heard the news about Reggie's death on the radio while riding along the Mass Pike (I-90) to my brother's house in Sturbridge. My memories of h
35 Falcon84 : What a bunch of mean-spirited, closed-minded people some of you are. He certainly won't "burn in hell" for one unfortunate remark. God isn't that vind
36 NUAir : As was said before. Regardless of his views he was a great football player and if you are looking to football players for guidance you might want to h
37 S12PPL : ONE unfortunate remark?? Give me a break. I can't stand born again Christians.
38 Usairwys757 : You people sicken me, he was a great person and great football player. He will be missed.
39 Boeing4ever : ONE unfortunate remark?? Give me a break. I can't stand born again Christians You can't stand Republicans, you can't stand "Born-again Christians"...y
40 Slider : He lived a good, decent life; he worked tirelessly with inner city youth. He was, for the most part, a very good representative of his teams, his fami
41 L-188 : It cracks me up that those of who who preach tolerance are the most intolerant among those who post here. Gigneil for example, wants Reggie to "burn i
42 S12PPL : Yeah...I just hate Republicans and born agains cuz I can...That's a way to generalize something. I just get sick of born again's telling everyone that
43 TWFirst : He may have helped people, but he also hurt people as well. Like all of us, he was no saint and I don't believe he should be held up as a hero because
44 Gigneil : It cracks me up that those of who who preach tolerance are the most intolerant among those who post here. He was an evil, spiteful, hateful man, and I
45 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Yeah...I just hate Republicans and born agains cuz I can...That's a way to generalize something. You're the one who made generalizations about "born-a
46 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : He certainly won't "burn in hell" for one unfortunate remark. God isn't that vindictive, although some of you seem to be ...his own message disagrees
47 F9Widebody : ...his own message disagrees with you on that. I think I know the bible fairly well, and I have never heard this before, unless it was the old testame
48 Dvk : If the Old Testament is no longer applicable, then most of the biblical argument against homosexuality crumbles, other than a few of the tirades of St
49 F9Widebody : What I am saying is that you can't consider Old Testament punishments applicable today because currently, Christians believe that Christ died to save
50 Gigneil : Therefore, as he said, homosexuality is no longer an issue. N
51 AGC525 : Geeze, a beloved sports star to some people dies and everyone puts thier two cents in about they compare him to Hitler and how he'll burn in hell for
52 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Geeze, a beloved sports star to some people dies and everyone puts thier two cents in about they compare him to Hitler and how he'll burn in hell for
53 Post contains images Cragley : Reggie who? Never heard of him. He clearly made an impact on the world.
54 Slider : He was an evil, spiteful, hateful man, and I have no tolerance for any of those things. Wow. Evil huh? He was entitled to serve his God, live his life
55 TWFirst : >>Live and let live.
56 Jaysit : Go ask the people whose lives he changed, touched and improved if they thought Reggie White was "evil, spiteful, and hateful." Go ask gays and lesbian
57 Gigneil : I can't imagine being such a small, shallow man such as yourself. Why, because I don't conform to your view of the world? So sorry, but you don't actu
58 S12PPL : Gigneil, welcome to my RR list. I can't stand the fact that so many people in this world just run about conforming to something said by someone they l
59 Mlsrar : I lost a ton of respect for White not for his beliefs...while I am a practicing Christian, I was angered at how he farmed out millions in donations fr
60 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : If you were to ask an Aryan, Hitler was a warm, compassionate man with their best interests deep at heart ...funny thing about that being that Hilter
61 Slider : What part of "hate the sin, love the sinner" don't you understand? Someone, ANYONE, please tell me, provide me QUOTES from Reggie White as to what you
62 TWFirst : Here you go Slider... An ordained minister, White made headlines in 1998 with a speech to Wisconsin lawmakers in which he blasted gays and used ethic
63 Slider : Yeah, I know that speech well. It was a terrible example of public oration. But how is that "evil" and "hateful"? It was ill-advised and stereotypical
64 TWFirst : >>gay marriage is not a civil rights issue
65 Slider : You are absolutely 100% incorrect. It is a denial of equal legal benefits to people based on gender. Pure and simple. Without getting too tangential,
66 TWFirst : Since good old saintly Reggie was so vociferous on the issue, I don't think the issue is "tangential" to this thread... by saying "legal contracts exi
67 RoastedNutz : I had no idea a dead Packer would cause so much controversy amongst the gay community here.
68 TWFirst : >>I had no idea a dead Packer would cause so much controversy amongst the gay community here.
69 Jaysit : Defend this: " 'Homosexuality is a decision, it's not a race,' White said. 'People from all different ethnic backgrounds live in this lifestyle. But p
70 Jaysit : When someone famous tries to make you feel devalued for who you are, see how you feel about it and see what you remember when they die. Amen. You got
71 Jaysit : Defend this, context notwithstanding. I think it pretty much speaks for itself: Why did God create us differently? Why did God make me black and you w
72 DL021 : I think that he was voicing, right or wrong, what a significant percentage of African-Americans feel about the difference between their struggle and t
73 TWFirst : >>You can also look back this year on the gay marriage issue to see where the vocal members of the black civil rights community stood on comparing the
74 Jaysit : You can also look back this year on the gay marriage issue to see where the vocal members of the black civil rights community stood on comparing their
75 Jaysit : I think it is important to remember that the Bible was also used to defend slavery, wife-beating and the grotesque subordination of women. I don't see
76 Slider : you know damned well he was referring to PEOPLE, not just their actions. Well, unlike some people, I can separate people from the things they do. Not
77 TWFirst : >>Well, unlike some people, I can separate people from the things they do.
78 Slider : Well then, hail to thee Slider. The only problem is we're not talking about you. And you obviously don't understand why it is illogical to say "it's O
79 TWFirst : >>Not illogical at all. Part of being a sentient human being is being in control of our impulses. We have free will, we make our own decisions, we don
80 Jaysit : Hell, by that standard, all of Hollywood is guilty and "evil" as well since they do charity work yet pontificate endlessly. I have yet to see Barbara
81 Slider : Great Slider... then I hereby formally request that you do not masturbate or think about women or breasts or find any woman attractive that you see in
82 Post contains images S12PPL : Plane and simple folks. His comments were a blatent example of bigotry. Only now you can't admit that, because that would be admitting you are wrong.
83 Boeing4ever : First S12, learn to spell "plain". No one here denied that he hated gays and was wrong for it, but comparing him to Hitler, who actually massacred mil
84 S12PPL : I'm not a member of thos board because I want to spell every word perfectly every time. If you are going to judge me based on my mis spelling of a few
85 Boeing4ever : I have a hobby...it's called aviation...you know...the whole reason this site was made. It's called Airliners.net for a reason. Interesting how you ov
86 TACAA320 : Uhmmmm.... From one side : a man of God... To the other : an evil man... Only God will judge his acts. For good or bad. R.I.P.
87 Post contains images S12PPL : Hmm...It would appear YOU have over looked the fact that this is "airliners.net" as well. Still casting stones I see
88 Boeing4ever : Hmm...It would appear YOU have over looked the fact that this is "airliners.net" as well. Still casting stones I see Don't duck the issue...YOU began
89 Post contains images S12PPL : lol. I'm not ducking any issues. Barry Bonds denied using steriods, too. So did alot of other prominant athletes. The truth is pro sports have become
90 Post contains images TACAA320 : "Hmm...It would appear YOU have over looked the fact that this is "airliners.net" as well". Is this A.net, or NOT? If yes, WHAT?
91 Slider : How many ex NFL players have we seen reduced to nothing by steriods. Jim Otto is a HUGE example. He couldn't even walk after he retired. Combination o
92 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Barry Bonds denied using steriods, too. So did alot of other prominant athletes. The truth is pro sports have become so competative, that supliments H
93 DL021 : Guys...let the kid be as stupid as he wants without trying to "teach him his place" I would bet Reggie White would have wanted us to focus on somethin
94 S12PPL : Boeing, dont' call me "son". I'm not your child, and God permitting, never will be. I'm not ducking or squirming from anything. I don't need a "place"
95 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Boeing, dont' call me "son". I'm not your child, and God permitting, never will be. I'm not ducking or squirming from anything. I don't need a "place"
96 Post contains images S12PPL : What a clever retort from such a kind, caring person. You really do make me laugh, though. I don't have anything to learn from you, though. You seem t
97 Boeing4ever : What a clever retort from such a kind, caring person. You really do make me laugh, though. Oh, I'm kind and caring...just not to you... I don't have a
98 DL021 : By casting aspersions about a dead man you took a cheap shot. You floated the idea he did roids in the worst rumor-mongering way possible. Looking for
99 S12PPL : Very good, Boeing!!! Good job! You finally got that I asserted my BELIEF!!! Man it took you long enough...damn. lol Saying I belive something is waaaa
100 Post contains links and images Boeing4ever : Saying I belive something is waaaay different than me coming out and saying he did it. And in this case, you stated your belief as fact. Nice try. Squ
101 S12PPL : *sigh* You don't get it...but that's ok. I understand that you just may not be willing to accept no one is really wrong here...
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