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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

About 25 millions has been pledged to the tsunami catastrophe while 85 billions has been allocated to the fiasco in Iraq. Hey, Bush! 3 billions would be a realalistic sum for the flood victims.


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User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Well,

I did my share today. I donated 50USD.  Smile I know they need it more than I do.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13509 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1753 times:
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Hey Blackbird - as I asked in another thread - what after-school programs, homeless shelters, or medical research grants would you like to take the money from to pay for this?

The U.S. is already the world's single largest contributor to disaster relief, with the vast majority of it coming not from the federal government, but from citizens donating to relief organizations like the American Red Cross, etc.

Trust me, they'll get FAR more than just the $30M the government has promised.



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

I did my share today. I donated 50USD. I know they need it more than I do.

I also donated. Today I was at my bank to pay-in the money I got for Christmas from my relatives. I transfered all to my account except of 20 EUR, this 20 EUR I have sent to UNICEF (I don't donate to churchly organisations) to help the victims of this tragedy.

Patrick


User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041228/D878TEPG1.html

Watch your step, you might step all over your own comments.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

this 20 EUR I have sent to UNICEF

Why not donate to the Red Cross?


User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Duffy said that included in the $20 million that USAID has pledged is $2 million for Sri Lanka, $1 million for Indonesia and $100,000 each for India, the Maldives and Thailand.

That's bizarre... America's giving $100,000 of aid to India and India's giving much more than that in assistance to other countries!


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

"Why not donate to the Red Cross?"

Are we going to attack people for the organisation they donated to?  Confused



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

Why not donate to the Red Cross?

Good idea actually but yesterday evening I saw the news and they showed some names of organizations who need help, the only organization of them I could remember today was UNICEF.

UNICEF seems to have a better marketing department than the Red Cross  Big grin.

Anyway, this year I spent two great holidays on Phuket and every local there treated my friendly, so I thought that I must help these people somehow, no matter via which organization.

Patrick

Edit: Of course I give a damn in which of the affected counties my money will arrive, I could have spend a nice holiday also in India or Sri Lanka, I had donated anyway.

[Edited 2004-12-29 00:52:55]

User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

I don't think that he is trying to get at that.

UNICEF is a a charity to help deprived children around the world, whilst the Red Cross offers assistance to a wider spectrum of people..

Regards,

Chris


User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

F**k! Just saw that the death toll's been revised to about 60,000, with thousands more still unaccounted for.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

I'm not critisising, I just think money would reach those who needed quicker with Red Cross / Red Cresent.

User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

I wish there was more I could do beside just giving money.

:[



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User currently offlineQuebecair727 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

I made my donation to the Canadian Red Cross and I urge all Canadians on this board to do the same. The links are:

In English: https://www.strategicprofitsinc.com/hosted/redcross/index.php

En français: https://secure.csfm.com/croix-rouge/


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

My point being was that we seem to have so much to support war, but need to beg during times of natural diasater. I am sure A.neters are of good stock and can make up their own minds when it comes to these kinds of decisions. It is the decision making process of the current administration that is being questioned.


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Why not donate to the Red Cross?

Because the Red Cross is not permitted to operate in Moslem countries. That "tolerant" religion requires that they do business as the Red Crescent.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Because the Red Cross is not permitted to operate in Moslem countries. That "tolerant" religion requires that they do business as the Red Crescent.

Which is a bit of spin, really. In 1986 it was decided to call the organisation in Muslim countries the Red Crescent not because the Red Cross is banned, or not permitted to help in those countries, but to attempt to alleviate the confusion over whether the Red Cross is a religious organisation. In the midst of a humanitarian crisis, the last thing you want is for people to be wary of an aid organisation.

The countries don't require the organisation to be called the Red Crescent - the name has been around since 1929. I'm sure there are many people in the US and other Western countries who think the Red Cross is a Christian organisation, and would be wary to deal with, what they perceive to be, a Muslim Red Crescent.


User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

I shall be donating as soon as my pay clears,

what's the best place to donate to? The Red Cross??

Truly a Terrible Disaster  Sad


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1529 times:
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I just made a donation ($25), Yahoo has a link off their homepage. Such a tragedy.

User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

I shall be donating around £20 or so.

As TUNisia said I wish there would be more we could do to help in this terrible crisis  Sad


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Is there any point to this thread other than to bash the U.S. and President Bush?

There is already a thread about the earthquake.

There is already a thread about the U.N. whining that the U.S. isn't spending enough over the tsunami.

There is already a thread for whining about spending money in Iraq.

Guess there isn't a point except to try and stir the pot.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

"Is there any point to this thread other than to bash the U.S. and President Bush?"

B757300, being that the one who started the thread is an American, that is "a bit" out there.

"Guess there isn't a point except to try and stir the pot."

And now the ever-repeating question: Why did you bother gracing this thread with a reply, then?



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

Because the Red Cross is not permitted to operate in Moslem countries. That "tolerant" religion requires that they do business as the Red Crescent.

Ah yes! Just like the "tolerant" religion of Judaism requires they do business as the Magen David Adom or Red Shield of David, in Israel.  Yawn

[Edited 2004-12-29 03:07:35]

User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

What annoys me is people can still get in stupid arguments over A.net Whilst 60,000 innocent lives have just been lost  Sad

Bush good/Bad?... So what, that is not going to help all those poor victims.

If he is donating something its better than nothing at all.

Just my 2 penny's.



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

being that the one who started the thread is an American, that is "a bit" out there.

...um, ever seen a Michael Moore movie?  Nuts



Bush good/Bad?... So what, that is not going to help all those poor victims.

Agreed


25 Clickhappy : Hey ConcordeBoy, B757300 Why not make a donation and help these people?
26 BA : Because the Red Cross is not permitted to operate in Moslem countries. That "tolerant" religion requires that they do business as the Red Crescent. Oh
27 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Now let us stop this stupid bickering over something that isn't worth bickering about. There are thousands of people who are suffering because of this
28 Captoveur : I have a question. I may be totally off base with this and someone correct me if I am in any way missing something. The US has coughed up 25 million i
29 Teahan : Someone on TV this evening made a good point. The best 'donation' we can make is by returning to those countries on holidays once the place has been c
30 Thecoz : About 25 millions has been pledged to the tsunami catastrophe This is just the initial pledge. I'm sure the Bush admin will continue to re-evaluate th
31 ConcordeBoy : Why not make a donation and help these people? Here's a better question: why do you assume we (or at least, I) haven't?
32 MaverickM11 : "Here's a better question: why do you assume we (or at least, I) haven't?" Because this is airliners.net and that's what one does....if they can't fin
33 OYRJA : BTW, I donated my money to the Red Barnet foundation. And in English that is Save the Children foundation. I would have given it to Red Cross as well.
34 Captoveur : Nobody has yet answered my question. What have these bastions of peace and love, the countries we all should aspire to be done? How much relief is spe
35 Aloges : Captoveur, had you read only as little of that "stingy" thread as I did, you'd know that the UN guy referred to Germany just like he referred to the U
36 Post contains images Russophile : How much relief is spewing fourth from France, Germany, Russia, etc? Russia has already sent MChS Il-76 and Il-62 full of supplies to the region - bot
37 Captoveur : It does fit well with the "Anytime shit happens lets go run to the US" way of thinking so much of the world seems to have. If I was in charge I would
38 Jasepl : It does fit well with the "Anytime shit happens lets go run to the US" way of thinking so much of the world seems to have. Ha ha! If I was in charge I
39 Aloges : "Either hate us or love us, pick one." Simple as that, it isn't. I'll refrain from any further comment.
40 Post contains links Gary2880 : fine ill hate you then, you can cut yourselfs off go float in the atlantic and rot we`ll all be better off without you, i would think any little contr
41 Captoveur : you expected enough sympathey after bloody 9/11 There is a big diff between sympathy and asking nations to get out their checkbooks. Sympathy doesn't
42 TWFirst : >.The ICRC is infact considering adding the Red Diamond which would represent neutrality. I think this is a great idea.
43 Gary2880 : There is a big diff between sympathy and asking nations to get out their checkbooks. Sympathy doesn't get a line in the budget. yeah its called deacen
44 Captoveur : If it happened in America how many countries do you think would actually get out their checkbook? Probably none, that is why I may be cold blooded or
45 Post contains images Gary2880 : and maybe its that attitude of americans is the reason that no one would get out the chequebooks for you, circle of life
46 TWFirst : Gary2880: Please do not pay any attention to Captoveur's complete RUBBISH. His attitude does NOT represent how most Americans feel about this disaster
47 Lowrider : Why don't we ask a representative of the recieving countries if they are satisfied with US aid? If they don't want it or feel it is too little to both
48 Aloges : TWFirst, it's a pity though the people with that attitude are the most vocal ones, at least here on a.net.[Edited 2004-12-29 22:34:41]
49 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Captoveur, I would certainly do anything in the mean nessesary to help, such as donating money/ Blood (and im terrified of needles owwie ). I don't ev
50 777236ER : If it happened in America how many countries do you think would actually get out their checkbook? Probably none, that is why I may be cold blooded or
51 Jasepl : If I recall correctly, nearly every country in the world offered help after September 11th. EVERY other Western country did, at least. So did nearly e
52 Post contains links StowAway : Be Assured.... http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-12/30/content_2392716.htm
53 Jasepl : I have a question. I may be totally off base with this and someone correct me if I am in any way missing something. Yep Captain, you are indeed missin
54 Radarbeam : Well I just donated online to the Red Cross. Captoveur, B757300 and the likes, run back to your caves.
55 ZKSUJ : I've got $100NZ waiting to be donated, just need to wait for the phone lines to open.
56 707cmf : I had never realised how online donation could be easy before. Thanks guys for opening my eyes on that. I will not tell how much I donated (more than
57 Sebolino : Either hate us or love us, pick one. If you hate us don't stand around with your hand out when something bad happens in your shithole country. Why don
58 Foxiboy : Why do some people I.E captoveur feel the need to turn this thread and other threads into a political soap box and scream how the US is so great and t
59 Zizou : As a Sri Lankan by birth we welcome any aid we get. But one does have to be impressed at the speed at which the European countries such as UK, Norway,
60 Zizou : The England cricket team has pledged 15,000 pounds and the Professional Cricketers' Association (PCA), a member of FICA, will add a further £5000 don
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