GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 25215 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7360 times:
Remember that advert (UK only maybe?) where 2 Killer Whales played tennis (using their tails)with a man dressed up as a seal? It would be hilarious if 2 Killer Whales played Tennis with OYRJA before gobbling him up
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Galaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7349 times:
I'm pretty sure the killer whale has the advantage, with its sheer size alone. Also since the Orca is a social creature it also hunts in co-ordinated packs, it would rarely succomb to great white threat.
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DIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1877 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7344 times:
Which one of these two are the strongest/most dangerous?
Both are equally strong, but the killer whale is a more intelligent creature and won't attack just about anything. Great White sharks, on the other hand, are extremely temperamental and are known to attack everything, including humans.
Killer whales are found in colonies, which is a proof of their social behaviour and therefore, intelligence. Great Whites, like all other sharks, are solitary hunters.
Their hunting skills, of course, are equally impressive and they are both equally important ecologically.
Also which one would you prefer to see in real life in a wild environment?
I would prefer a killer whale, like I said, sharks are temperamental.
who would win in a fight between the Great White Shark and the Killer Whale?
This is a difficult one, pretty much depends on the size of the animals which are fighting. They can both be equally fierce and are equally strong. But since killer whales are always in groups, an attack on one member of the group will result in the entire group retaliating fiercely. So only a foolhardy shark will take on a group of killer whales
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MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14535 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7307 times:
One problem is that there exists very little research on White Sharks, but recent research points that the sharks are much more intelligent than previously credited. They are also curious and like to play. The problem is their migration pattern, where research is just in the infancy. I´ve seen footage of a White Shark clearly enjoying having it´s tummy scratched by a diver.
Experiments with other shark species carried out by Cousteau back in the 1970s indicate that sharks can be trained and can make simple logical conclusions, like find behing which door to find food.
I think in nature, a Great White Shark and an Orca will mostly just avoid each other. Both actually feed mainly one seals, not on each other.
Also, IMO, human perception of sharks has been largely influenced by horror stories and movies like "Jaws".
Up to a few decades ago, wolves were accused of being man killers, recent research debunked all the horror stories as myths.
Hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7295 times:
Interesting question and I agree that the Killer Whale would win, at least 7 or 8 times out of 10 against the Great White. The Orca aside from superior strength, size & intelligence is also far more maneuverable. The GW's movement is limited, and it will be incapable of turning around into position in time. There won't be much of a fight as the Orca will manhandle the shark. It's not much of a contest, but then again anything can happen in the wild so we can't completely disregard the GW's chances.
Other interesting scenarios:
1. Great White Shark vs. Saltwater Crocodile
2. Siberian Tiger vs. Siberian Brown Bear
3. African Lion vs. Bengal Tiger
AAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7231 times:
Unless the Great White were a monster 20 footer with a pack of 20 footers with it then it may have a chance against the Killer Whale. But when that big old Killer Whale gets moving and is determined it is determined.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7219 times:
Orca's may be regarded as intelligent, but Great Whites too show some signs of 'intelligence'. It was mentioned above that Orca's hunt in packs. You only need to go back a few weeks when off the South Australian coast a surfer was attacked and bitten in half by two great whites who were hunting together. If two can hunt together, what is stopping 10 or 20 hunting together?
We know so much about orca's due to being able to get up close to them on a regular basis. But very little is actually known about great whites, and we are learning new things about them regularly, e.g. the attack I mentioned above.
If it was a one on one fight, a great white would likely win.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14535 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7210 times:
Most animals have too much sense to get themselves into combat situations. The exception would be if one is much smaller and therefore considered to be food for the bigger one or if they are forced into a tight corner.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7191 times:
Also, if anyone wants to know the true POWER of the Killer Whale... research the "Walking Whales" of Patagonia:
these b!tches are so intense that they will actually inchworm their way out of the water, sometimes completely onto a beach; to grab seals or whatever prey they may be after. They've developed such overall body-strength that they can decompress their internal organs to move around on land, in ways that would strand any other whale/dolphin; even other Orcas who lack the breeding/experience for the maneuver.
I've thusfar only seen this on TV, but it's something I hope to observe in person very soon!
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8511 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7104 times:
Sometimes you can't help it, but you're not supposed to get too close to orcas in the wild. Of course there are laws regarding this (big surprise), but I would think that it's just prudent. I've read a really good book about orca researchers in the 1970s who were the first to free swim with orcas. They were rather apprehensive of it, but nothing happened, of course.
Orcas are more intelligent (by orders of magnitude) than sharks, live in pods (the larger sharks don't), are warm-blooded, and probably stronger than any shark (with the possible exception of Bruce, the star of Jaws).
I want to go sea kayaking in Johnstone Strait and see the orcas, myself.
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7161 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7075 times:
Hey Orcas have killed humans before too, so don't rule them out as being tame. Generally they are good tempered but if a human was faced with and angry orca or an angry shark, it would end with the same result.
Orca vs GW, hard to say, a GW IMO
what about an orca pod or a group of GWs against a Blue whale? Yes BWs are much much bugger, but they have no teeth and feed on plankton, the others however feed on Meat.