MartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7 Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1763 times:
Did anyone else smell the whole stadium stink of BS with MAn. U (I call 'em Man. Poo) against Tottenham, the ball was at least 1 metre in, clearly visible by the ref's assistant and the referee, and not given..... this is gone too far.
Spurs were denied a win over Manchester United in what will be one of the most controversial decisions in Premiership history, after Roy Carroll had clearly dropped the ball over the line in the last minute at Old Trafford.
Pedro Mendes had attempted to lob Carroll but the goalkeeper looked to have a simple catch.
Unbelievably, he dropped the ball and it dropped a good yard over the line but the linesman kept his flag down, and United were spared in dramatic circumstances.
Spinzels From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
It has been a terrible four days for EPL refs, hasn't it? Between the mistakes in the Liverpool - Chelski match on Saturday and now this horrible call going against Spurs today.
The movement for video replay is clearly gaining momentum from these calls. Until today, I was against it, but now, I dunno...
AGC525 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 989 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1657 times:
What, no soccer goon riots?
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Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 50 Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1645 times:
(I call 'em Man. Poo)
Yeah you stick to that. Sounds really cool. Other suggestions are Liverfool and Arse-anal...
Anyway, bad decision indeed. (Not that I'm complaining) but there have been far too many slip ups from the referees the last couple of premiership rounds... They better get a grip. And bring in Collina...
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Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
This is what the goal looked like to the ref.
Can't blame him, but if the linesman had been in the right position, he would have spotted it. However, as th ball was on the midfield with the defence of Utd pushed forward, the linesman was in no position to spot that the ball was over the line...
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Jamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 27 Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1621 times:
Did anyone else smell the whole stadium stink of BS with MAn. U
There certainly was no stink, infact quite a nice fragrant smell at Old Trafford. Guess its all the new aftershave and perfume that people have had for xmas.
Anyways on a more serious note, how was
a) the ref able to see it
b) the linesmen able to see it
They were both out of position. Not ManUtd's fault there. The spurs fans all started celebrating, we all held our heads in our hands. And the players stoped playing, then the ref waved play on.
I really wish people would stop picking on my team, go pick on Arsenal or Chelsea instead. eg the stonewall penalty that Mr Riley decided not to give to Liverpool against Chelsea.
Virgin744 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1599 times:
Thom@s,
I disagree with your last point and pic about the view of the ref That is NOT what the goal would look like from the view of the ref- You seem to think he was a dwarf then!!!!
Considering the normal height of a human being, and him standing anywhere around the centre circle he would have CLEARLY seen the goal line and thus EASILY see the ball cross it - by a whole metre!
Besides, both the ref AND the linesman should be sacked for that, there should be no excuses for doing a terrible job.
I dont know what your height is but even my pint-size at 5ft 6" I can easily see across the goal line from the centre circle.....
Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 50 Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
First of all...
Second, I am not a dwarf, and nor was the ref. But if you can spot that ball over the line from 50 meters + away, even if it is slightsly higher up, then that would make you the best ref the world has ever seen.
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Spinzels From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
I really wish people would stop picking on my team, go pick on Arsenal or Chelsea instead. eg the stonewall penalty that Mr Riley decided not to give to Liverpool against Chelsea.
What about when the aforementioned Mr Riley awarded ManU a pk off an egregious bit of Wayne Rooney play acting in the box against Arsenal? This nonsense with Spurs is only the latest installment of how ManU gets the Juventus treatment. And yet Fergie still whines like a child after every match.
We wouldn't pick on ManU if they didn't keep giving us so much reason to do so.
Saintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
Actually a situation where TV evidence can be used today is in the case of Carroll who should be charged and banned for unsporting behaviour. He knew that the ball had crossed the line and it was blatent cheating not to own up. The referee should have asked him outright too because if he had said no it would have been a lie.
Of course Carroll could have said he was at the wrong angle.......
J.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 640 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1397 times:
Oh, I thought you were talking about Ryan Leaf...sorry.
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Virgin744 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
well I bet if it was Collina it would have been given a goal!
On a side note - any ManUre supported here? Its rather shocking that on the front page of the Man U website it has a pic of Carrol and Howard and says "Discussion Board - Who would you pick?"
Can you just imaging if Carrol or Howard visits the website and sees the front page- Carrol must be thinking damn, even the club are asking supporters for their opinion on who to pick.
P.S Man U announce on the website that Carrol is replaced by Howard!
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29366 posts, RR: 62 Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1334 times:
Agreed B7E7.
I figured that this was going to be a thread about the creation of the BCS.
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David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7168 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1290 times:
What about when the aforementioned Mr Riley awarded ManU a pk off an egregious bit of Wayne Rooney play acting in the box against Arsenal?
Strange how we are not thinking how Riley missed a cast-iron penalty when Ronaldo was brought down during that game: one penalty given when it shouldn't have been and one penalty not given when it should have been which leads to the net result that Man Utd "got" the penalty they deserved as they say decisions even themselves over time!
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But if you can spot that ball over the line from 50 meters + away, even if it is slightsly higher up, then that would make you the best ref the world has ever seen. 
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