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Geography Poll :- Poland  
User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Would you say that Poland is in Eastern Europe.. simple yes or no.. here is the thread that started it all.. http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1891841/

Here is a map to show what I think about the countries of Europe and what "zones" they come under..



BTW, I believe that Poland is Eastern Europe..

Regards,

Chris

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Yes, I would also say that Poland is in Eastern Europe.

Patrick


User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Poland is in fact in central Europe. Politically it was in eastern Europe.

[Edited 2005-01-05 23:33:34]


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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4638 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

Geographically I'd say Eastern Europe, but I could see someone might believe it to be in Western Europe (it's close to centre on the map). Cultrally however I'd say Poland has a lot more in common with Eastern Europe than Western Europe. But hey, what do I know?  Smile

Kris



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

I would cay CentraL Europe


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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Also, how would Portugal be considered a Mediterranean country?


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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Poland is geographically in Central Europe. It was politically cast in Eastern Europe not by its own choice but by the diction of the "Big Three" and the oppressive USSR.

Contrary to what France/Germany and other people still stuck in the 1980's want you to believe, Poland is in fact in Central Europe. Remember, Europe ends at the Urals. And whether these people like it or not, Poland is as politically western as they come...NATO member, EU member, etc.

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Also, how would Portugal be considered a Mediterranean country?

Portugal is Southern Europe for me, not a Mediterranean country.

Contrary to what France/Germany and other people still stuck in the 1980's want you to believe, Poland is in fact in Central Europe.

Everything east from our borders is Eastern Europe for me (Yes, even the former GDR  Big grin).

Patrick


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Yes..............
......................



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

If we have to divide it but into thirds - East, West and Med . . . then East it is. It's really central Europe . . . but hey . . . nice map . . .  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

Well, since everyone is now over here instead of reading my original thread about Air Koryo, I believe I might as well contribute and say that I, too, believe that Poland is in Eastern Europe.  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Ok so currently we have..

Yes 6
No 3


Regards,

Chris


User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

Whoever said "East of Vienna, the Orient begins" or words to that effect was right.

Besides, I always thought Poland was very much in Mitteleuropa?


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Since when is the UK in Europe? Everyone I've known from GB has staunchly denied being from Europe. I mean it goes way back long before you opted out of use of the Euro. Maybe Ireland is in, but not England according to my friends. How about Wales and Scotland?

Logan


User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Isn't Austria part of Eastern Europe?


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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

On second thought, Chris, it depends on who you ask. For example:



That's one version!  Big grin


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Yes...

......(simple answer)



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User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Jaspel,

Maybe that's what would have happened if it were not for the Battle of Waterloo.
I should have conquered the world.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8767 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Politically, historically, culturally and economically it's in Eastern Europe. Geographically it's in Central Europe. To me, "Eastern Europe" basically means "all Slavic/Slavonic/Slavonian countries".

I agree with Christa's map, except:
- Denmark is Scandinavian, as is Iceland
- Estonia is "in between" Scandinavia and Eastern Europe
- Slovenia (and Croatia, to an extent) are "in between" Eastern and Western Europe and the Mediterranean



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

I agree with Rlwynn and Aloges...politically; Eastern Europe...geographically; Central Europe...

Greg



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User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Logan

Since when is the UK in Europe? Everyone I've known from GB has staunchly denied being from Europe. I mean it goes way back long before you opted out of use of the Euro. Maybe Ireland is in, but not England according to my friends. How about Wales and Scotland?

I am certainly a member of the EU community as is everyone else who lives in a country in the European Union. However, I believe that I am first British then Welsh and then European.. for example when I am on holidays and a person ask's where I am from, I will reply with Britain (or UK) and if they ask where in the UK I will reply with Wales.

I would never want to be part of the EURO however I do agree that a "United Europe" can only be good, for the economy, socially and militarily also.

I know that many people around me (In Wales) have positive feelings towards Europe and the EU, however people do not want to lose their national and region identities . In Scotland and in England I am sure that there are people who like the EU and others who do not..just as there are people for the Iraq War and people against it..

Jaspel

Poor Napoleon , eh?  Big grin

Aloges

I know that Iceland and Denmark are both in Scandinavia, however it was just a quick drawing and I couldn't be bothered to think too much, if you know what I mean? Plus I wanted to put "Iceland and Friends" in as for some sad reason I find it amusing.. as for the other two issues they are both debatable

Regards,

Chris


User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Yes, to me Poland is in Eastern Europe. They were behind the Iron Curtain, and their people and culture are Slavic, similar to Ukranians and Russians, are they not?

I consider Portugal to be a Mediterranean country...Portuguese people have more in common with Italians and Greeks than with the French. Mr. Harlot gets mistaken for Greek or Italian all the time. Never anything else. "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" reminded me of *my* wedding!



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

I put Europe in only two categories, Western Europe and Eastern Europe.

I consider all former Warsaw Pact nations (excluding the former GDR), the former Soviet Socialist Republics, and Russia up to the Ural Mountains to be Eastern Europe, while I consider the rest of Europe to be Western Europe.

I do not consider Turkey to be part of Europe. While a small portion of Turkey is indeed in Europe geographically, I look at Turkey as a whole and I definately see them as being Asian despite their orientation towards Europe and the west (especially since for years they have been trying to get into the EU).

May seem too simple, but that's how it is for me. None of this Mediterranean, South Europe, Scandinavian, Iceland & Friends categories.  Smile

Maybe I'm a little old fashioned...



QuestAir,

Isn't Austria part of Eastern Europe?

Absolutely not. Austria is definately Western Europe both culturally and politically. Geographically I guess it could be either.

Geographically Austria is very much like Switzerland and parts of Germany (Bavaria region) and parts of Italy (South Tirol). However many areas in Eastern Europe have similar geography such as Slovenia and even Hungary.

Regards



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

yeah which is why we decided to call ourselves Eurasia lol...

i hate it how half of turkey is displayed on maps of Europe...if we aren't in it...we shouldnt be displayed at all, esp since cuts right out where im from no FAIR!!

but im just messing Europe or not, humanity wins in the end

as for poland i say yes



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User currently offlineMNeo From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

WOW. No one from Eastern Europe answered. so let me shed some light into the subject.

Poland WAS considered eastern Europe until about the mid-late 1990s. If anyone has ever been to poland they would notice that Warsaw is just like any onther western capital(just a bit smaller). Now im not saying that its perfect throught the whole country. Im sure in the villages you would get that "Eastern Europe feeling". Since Polands entrance to the EU and NATO its becomming more and more of a western nation

No Country that was part of the Ex. Soviet Block would be Fully western until the generation that lived during that time is gone. Thats the Baiscs of it.

PS: also Polish does not use the cyrilic alphabet like most Eastern European Countries



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25 Aloges : MNeo, how long would you estimate will it take countries like yours to become "westernised"; in case you think that is going to happen? I'd like that
26 Post contains images Klaus : What´s the big deal anyway? Being eastern european is nothing shameful - if somebody should have (had) negative associations with "eastern", it´s th
27 Post contains images L410Turbolet : It's all Russia or Yugoslavia! signed, 8 out of 10 from the other side of the pond Yes, to me Poland is in Eastern Europe. They were behind the Iron C
28 Post contains links and images RedDragon : Christa: [map] Aloges: Denmark is Scandinavian, as is Iceland It's my understanding that the region of Scandinavia covers Denmark, Norway and Sweden,
29 Iakobos : If it was not for the 45 years man-made Iron Curtain that politically divided the continent, Poland has never been considered Eastern European. Poland
30 Post contains images Virgin744 : Christa, To answer your topic - answer has to be Yes. On a side note - you think Turkey is NOT part of the Mediterranean??? Err you have gotta be kidd
31 Post contains images Airkas1 : For me Poland is Eastern Europa
32 LO231 : Christa: Europe doesn't end on the border of Ukraine, Belarus etc... Poland is in Central Europe IMHO Peter
33 Stall : Maybe the only ones in position to give an answer are ...the Poles themselves !!! Any input ?
34 USAFHummer : "It's all Russia or Yugoslavia! signed, 8 out of 10 from the other side of the pond" Sad but probably not too far from the truth... Greg
35 LO231 : Maybe the only ones in position to give an answer are ...the Poles themselves !!! I have 2 nationalities,Belgian and Polish, thus: Central Europe. Man
36 OYRJA : know that Iceland and Denmark are both in Scandinavia, No. Iceland is not in Scandinavia. The only countries in Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark and No
37 LOT767-300ER : Central Europe. the geographic center of Europe lies in Western Poland. "Politically, historically, culturally and economically it's in Eastern Europe
38 Post contains images Iakobos : And christ if anyone labels me with a russian again i swear to god.. ...I will slap him twice with a fresh pstrong. Correct guess ?
39 Post contains images Aloges : "BS. Just because we have a Slavic language does not mean much." Are you OK with me calling you "idiot", then? Read what I wrote in response to MNeo:
40 Lindy : LO231 Many Poles don't like being associated with Russians, the cultures are quite different you know. And, geographical center of Europe IS in Poland
41 UALPHLCS : In the recent past Poland was Eastern Europe. But historically Poland has always looked West. Yes, we Pollacks, are Slavic, but we use the Roman Alpha
42 Post contains images Aloges : "After acceptance to EU Poland didn't want to sign European Constitution because it would be bad for them. Germans and French didn't expected that mov
43 Aloges : "Yes, we Pollacks, are Slavic, but we use the Roman Alphabet unlike any other Slavic language." So what alphabet do the Czechs use? And are the Turks
44 Lindy : Aloges, I'm not defending Poland not being Eastern. We were after the war until 1989. Thats it. But people still think about Poland as 3rd world count
45 Aloges : "But people still think about Poland as 3rd world country." Really? I don't know of any. Give it time, and Poland may very well end up being as well o
46 Boeing4ever : You never were "our bitches". And when did this "Germany and France want to control everything" argument get started? Just the fact that the two count
47 Post contains images Klaus : There appears to be a blatant lack of poles in this discussion who actually live in Poland... Expatriates always have a somewhat different perspective
48 Post contains images Andrej : Hey all, Poland is in Central Europe as is Slovakia and Czech Rep. as well as Austria. According to a book Geographical Atals, Slovakia (Zemepisny Atl
49 Post contains images Boeing4ever : There appears to be a blatant lack of poles in this discussion who actually live in Poland... So the rest of my family which still lives in Poland and
50 Lindy : Boeing4ever, You just earned a space on my respected users list. I couldn't say it better. Rafal
51 FlyLondon : But people still think about Poland as 3rd world country. Thats funny given it has never been a 3rd world county, but actually a 2nd world one.
52 Pelican : Geographical it's definately central Europe. Don't forget how that Belorussia and even huge parts of western Russia lie also in Europe. Cultural it's
53 Klaus : Boeing4ever: So the rest of my family which still lives in Poland and still echo those worries I outlined count for shit right? Then get the rest of y
54 MNeo : Aloges: I belive that once the generation that has lived during the period of communist rule has passed then the country could become "western". I say
55 Boeing4ever : Then get the rest of your family in here. Otherwise, it´s expatriates speaking. Wanna know why there are so many expatriates? It has a lot to do with
56 Lindy : Look who is talking. Its BS if I said that Eastern Gemrany can be associate with Russia, but if Polish people say that its BS to associate Polish with
57 Pelican : @ Lindy Do you mean me? I am the last person who would associate Poland with Russia - I know Russia is probably even more unpopular in Poland than Ger
58 BartiniMan : Christa, by your map, Belarus, Ukraine make up the far east of Europe. Where in the hell is Russia then? Super Far East Europe? Poland is Central Euro
59 Post contains images Klaus : Boeing4ever: Wanna know why there are so many expatriates? Your problem is not that you didn´t know a few things about pre-WWII history; Your problem
60 Post contains images Aloges : I love it. Expats speaking on behalf of "their" country, and bashing the only entity that might catch up with the country they live in... Just the usu
61 Post contains links and images Boeing4ever : Your problem is not that you didn´t know a few things about pre-WWII history; Your problem is that you don´t seem to bother to check the almost 60 y
62 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "And christ if anyone labels me with a russian again i swear to god.. ...I will slap him twice with a fresh pstrong. Correct guess ? " Man, half the a
63 Pilotaydin : hey i know how u feel...they said the same thing about turkey, if we join then everyone is going to flood into europe from here and take everyone's jo
64 Pelican : My Polish friends it seems to me that you expect the things from Germans which you can't conform by yourself. What our gripe is, is that Western Europ
65 LO231 : There appears to be a blatant lack of poles in this discussion who actually live in Poland... But there's internet, we talk to our families on a almos
66 WhiteHatter : I'm not an expat, I'm a Pole. The Polish probably have more in common with the British than anyone else...certainly going by our extremely welcome and
67 Lindy : I just want to say that I am not Anti-Europe. I also love Europe. When US people asking me were I was born I tell them in Poland, right next to German
68 Pelican : I just don't like German and French governments. You're not the only one. But what about the Polish government? pelican
69 Iakobos : the debate is the prevailing attitude that Western Europe has towards Poland by bitching about how we would flood into your countries and steal your j
70 UALPHLCS : Andrei, I merely cited cultural peculiarities that Poland has that show that over a much longer period of time than the COld War era after WWII, Polan
71 Post contains images Boeing4ever : What do you expect after a long history of occupation (Prussian, Russian and Austrian in Poland), the 3rd Reich and the cold war? First there was no P
72 Pelican : Part of the evil empire in the East...are you seriously in belief that Poles went willingly with the Soviets!? Do you remember 1939...the USSR invaded
73 Lindy : Do you know about 1410? Rafal
74 Iakobos : B4e, I wear correcting glasses, proof that I am not blind, and still I don't see the issue that seems to bring you to boiling point, unless it is some
75 Pelican : Of course I know the battle of Tannenberg. This has to be one of the founding myths of Poland. And yes I know there is a Polish history even longer ag
76 Pelican : Iakobos I thought Sarkozy is a son of a Hungarian migrant.... pelican
77 Post contains images Klaus : Klaus: Your problem is not that you didn´t know a few things about pre-WWII history; Your problem is that you don´t seem to bother to check the almo
78 Post contains images Klaus : LOT767-300ER: LMAO....oh boy....Germany and France dont want to give orders...christ i fell out of my chair laughing when i read that. It seems you´r
79 Iakobos : Pelican, shuuuut ! (my mistake based on info from a stupid website)
80 Boeing4ever : Yes it is but only of your ignorance. Were have I said that Poland was a willing part of the Evil Empire? Show me the line that indicates your assumpt
81 Krushny : B4e, I am stunned by your posts, you write a lot about Polish history but you prove little knowledge. Your gripes about Germany and Russia are perfect
82 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "You're kidding? That's as stupid as the German bitching about how we would flood into your countries and steal your jobs, whining about how your busi
83 Iakobos : B4ever: In your reply where I was actually debating you, you actually tried to excuse Western European stereotypes against Poland Would you please con
84 Post contains images Pelican : @Iakobos Shit happens @B4ever Were was I excusing something? I tried to EXPLAIN why some people in Western Europe see Poland as part of the East and I
85 Post contains images Damirc : These debates are always fun Okay. Yugoslavia (now: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia & Hercegovina, Serbia & Montenegro and Macedonia (FYROM, if anyone wants
86 Lindy : Krushny, You are right. Polish and French history has many common things. Even all Polish celebrities emigrated to France because it was so popular th
87 Boeing4ever : B4e, I am stunned by your posts, you write a lot about Polish history but you prove little knowledge. Your gripes about Germany and Russia are perfect
88 LOT767-300ER : "but about France? Historically France has been one of the few friends the Polish have traditionally had - listen less to FauxNews and read more histo
89 Pelican : Boeing4ever: You should try to read the Reply 64 and not only the pragraph which fits in your biased view. I wanted to express I'm aware there are als
90 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Boeing4ever: You should try to read the Reply 64 and not only the pragraph which fits in your biased view. I wanted to express I'm aware there are als
91 Iakobos : B4ever, I read carefully and unless your job is in historical research or anthropology I do not see where in the 21st century, you, a young guy, study
92 SK A340 : In fact, Iceland is not in Scandinavia nor is Finland. Just think of the countries that "owns" SAS. Scandinavia + Iceland and Finland is what we here
93 Post contains images L410Turbolet : Same thing goes for Czech Republic. Czechs gave up Prague without even single shot. Hey, hey, we were saving "peace for our times", remember?
94 Blackbird1331 : Poland is the center of the universe.
95 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Poland is the center of the universe. Even Poles disagree with that. I read carefully and unless your job is in historical research or anthropology I
96 Iakobos : Well cow-boy, (in the sense of young, dynamic but unwise) Except the lack of political respect from the part of France that you report, I don't see wh
97 Boeing4ever : JC's statements are the epitome of arrogance...no doubt. And the simple idea he had that he could make such comments and not give a rat's ass about th
98 Iakobos : No B4, JC is not the epitome of arrogance, there are a few consistently arrogant politicians on the planet and you are close to some of them. Try some
99 L410Turbolet : Iakobos, if I remember corretly Chirac is still only a leader of France, not any statutory official of the EU (although he acts like the director of t
100 Post contains images Boeing4ever : L410Turbolet summed it up well. Chirac should have kept his mouth shut. Believe me, I'm not fan of the Shrub, nor his little adventure in Iraq. This w
101 Post contains images Iakobos : Right, even the French know it is Montreal (or Mont Royal). Regarding JC, if you do not give him more importance than he is supposed to have, I don't
102 Boeing4ever : By the way, he did not bully Poland, he criticized a questionable political move of the Polish government at the eve of joining the club. No ? Critici
103 Post contains images Klaus : Boeing4ever: You're the one who quickly harped on WW2, and you still refuse to see anything else. My posts are here for all to see. My post (#26): Nop
104 Boeing4ever : You started this particular topic with your post #46: A lengthy tirade, firmly focusing on WWII and history before, full of paranoia, no idea about th
105 Lindy : Ok, lets call it even. Nobody will convert Muslim into a Jew, unless that person wants to do it. Also Polish person wont convince German person who is
106 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "Ok, lets call it even. Nobody will convert Muslim into a Jew, unless that person wants to do it. Also Polish person wont convince German person who i
107 AM744 : I would say it's in Eastern Europe.
108 Lindy : ... and Mexico is in Southern Asia. Rafal
109 Post contains images Klaus : Well, B4E, the thread is there for everybody to see, so maybe you´ll have more success next time. The ironic thing is that the aggression, the resent
110 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "And that´s a bit weak for a future perspective. " Maybe in Germany, not in the USA...thankfully we are on the more powerful side of the pond now
111 Post contains images Klaus : Young and delusional - it´s almost a must. But grown-up and delusional - it would simply be sad (and usually dangerous).
112 Boeing4ever : Well, B4E, the thread is there for everybody to see, so maybe you´ll have more success next time. Errr, you failed to nail me as a WW2 whiner and you
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