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User currently offlineEspion007 From Denmark, joined Dec 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

I recently stumbled apon steak tartare in a small french restuarant next to the days inn on 8th ave in manhatten. For those who dont know,its basically a plate of minched RAW meat.

anyway,i found it an interesting dish. Alot of people are grossed out by the idea of eating raw meat.what are your opinions on it? Have you tried it?and if so,have you had any medical problems related to the raw meat?


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User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

all i have to say is... ucch! Medium, Medium Rare is good for me. My father in Sweden loves Steak Tartare, it's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

There was this guy I read about that ate raw beef, all was fine until a few weeks down the line he began getting really bad stomach cramps, they got worse daily until one day he went to the loo and...... well lets just say he gave birth to the mother of all tapeworms!!! 8ft long, It was like an anaconda from his a**! It kept his weight down though which in this day and age can't be bad! Some of these stakes that I see cooked with blood dripping from them, euuurggh!! they look as though a good vet could get them going again! I dont eat meat but if I did I would want it incinerated so I know for sure its dead!


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User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

What's wrong with fresh raw meat (BEEF) ? or fresh raw fish ?

I can understand the ouchh in hot and technically uncivilized places, where meat is (or was rather recently) hanging above the pavement, a fieldday for insects.
In Greece a steak is at most 3/8" thick, stays half a day in water, cooks slowly for at least 20 minutes and can easily be used as a good replacement for a sole. Locals have no idea what meat tastes like and have the same "ouchh disgusting" and some do run for the bathroom.
Though they never tried.

Do yourself a favour, try a fresh tuna steak or a steak tartare and leave your preconceptions at the entrance...if you dare.









User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

Whatever happened to "Thoroughly Cooking of Meats Reduces the Risk of Foodborne Illness" ... just kidding-it's not so much the FBI that bugs me, it's just not my cup of tea and it grosses me out, some may like it and that's great! I do eat raw seafood. Something about meat that's red on the OUTSIDE is just not psychologically appealing, and probably because of that would never taste good to me.

User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Do yourself a favour, try a fresh tuna steak or a steak tartare and leave your preconceptions at the entrance...if you dare.

And whilst your eating your steak tartare you can think of a pet name for your tapeworm! Hmmm....what about loopy?



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

In Germany, all meat has to be very thoroughly checked for all kinds of things that don't belong in it, so it's pretty safe to eat raw meat. I'm the only one of my family of four who doesn't eat raw minced meat, simply because I don't like it, and neither my parents nor my brother have ever had problems caused by eating it. All of us eat air-dried ham, smoked ham and other uncooked meat.


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User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Catatonic,

I know, anything else than mint flavoured water boiled ......

Seriously, you can and sometimes do get the worm but only from (raw or unsufficiently cooked) ) PORK meat.
You read it wrong or the guy lied, he cannot get this from anything else than pork.


User currently offlineEzra From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Steak tartare is best when accompanied by a raw egg yolk. Seriously.

User currently offlineThecoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

I like my beef cooked fairly well, but shushi is so good! One of my favorites.

User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Agreed...raw egg, salt , pepper and onions spread on a fresh baked bun...lightly buttered.

THE BEST!!!

From what I understand the meat used in tartar is processed specially for the purpose of eating it raw and is an excellent cut. Also, when somebody purrchases the tartar make sure your butcher makes it fresh for you or has been made within 1 hours time. The meat should be eaten soon thereafter.


Tapeworm?? please  Nuts


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User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Italians have a variety of dishes called Carpaccio. They are various types of meat sliced paper thin, and garnished with all sorts of good stuff (i.e. capers, balsamic vinegar, etc.). I love it.

Also, in northern Wisconsin they serve something called a Cannibal Sandwich, which is raw ground beef, onions, pepper, garlic and lemon juice. I sat next to one, once.  Smile




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User currently offlineBananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1379 times:

Italians have a variety of dishes called Carpaccio. They are various types of meat sliced paper thin, and garnished with all sorts of good stuff (i.e. capers, balsamic vinegar, etc.). I love it.


CARPACCIO....

YUM!

I had forgotten about that! Ugh.. Get me to Italy.  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1872 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

I am a big fan of tartare steack. And one of my pleasure is to order it when I am with my american colleagues...
But after a first reaction of surprise, some try it, and the next day, they are very happy to order one !
Teva



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

I prefer beaver tartare


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

So let me get this straight...this is a dish of just plain raw beef? or is there some kind of other flavoring?

Greg
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Edited to correct grammar before someone calls me out for inadvertently using the wrong form of "There"...



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User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Right,

Better to tell what it is first...

Legend tells that it comes from the Huns and other Tartars coming down from the steppes of Asia. They ate raw (horse) meat and to soften it, placed it for a few hours under their saddle.
Truth is, the word was created by Jules Vernes in his fiction "Michel Strogoff", the recipe existed already.

- (absolutely) fresh beef steak (preferably the filet), minced
- finely cut onions
- cappers (marinated in vinegar)
- peper and salt
- finely cut fresh herbs (chive is perfect)
- a pinch of Worcester sauce
- a self-made mayonnaise made of one or two yolks, a little vinegar, French
mustard, salt and pepper

Mix and enjoy, preferably with a green salad and French fries (a theft, fries are actually Belgian).


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

Wow...that actually sounds pretty good...I just asked my mom about it, and she said she hasn't heard of it being served in restaurants in a long time...

Greg



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User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

Greg,

If your mother is interested, get her on line, I will give the precise recipe (I did hide a couple of ingredients...). I also forgot a little oil for the mayo.

It is especially popular in France, Belgium and I think England and is the main speciality of many a restaurant.
For the salad I can offer a sauce (own creation) made with fresh cream, extract of meat, vegetable salt,.... even the Greeks (not culinary adventurers)are finishing the plate with spoons and drying it with bread.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

Heh...no, she finds the concept revolting (shes a "well-done" meat person), but I definitely would love to try it if I could find it in a restaurant somewheres (I am a "rare" meat person, so raw wouldn't bother me terribly)...

Greg



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

I remember the Maria Callas case. She ate a lot of Beef Tartare full of solitaire [ taenia spp. (tape-worm) ] eggs. She lost about 80 pounds at that time...

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1288 times:
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I love the German version, Mettbroetchen!! with chopped onions and heissesenf, yum!!!


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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Once on Iron Chef they made *turkey* tartare. Just the thought of it made me want to gag.


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User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

Tacaa,

It is indeed a remarkable way to loose weight and has the advantage to be fully and easily controllable. (I wont go into details here...but it is)

Mistake however, the worm is not present in BEEF meat, only in PORK.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
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Isn't there a lamb version? Lebanese dish called kibbe (sp)?




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25 Post contains images LH423 : Mmmm...steak tartare! *wipes drool away from mouth* LH423
26 Post contains images YooYoo : Can we get rid of this thread.... ..... i'm getting very hungry Andreas
27 Post contains images Garnetpalmetto : Indeed, Andz - that's kibbe nayeh, one of the methods of preparing kibbe. I prefer it baked or fried myself
28 Cloudboy : Raw Beef is good. Has to be fresh. Really, really, REALLY fresh. And from a trusted butcher, too. I thought Tartare was filled with a bunch of flavori
29 Iakobos : Cloudboy ...with a bunch of flavorings... That's a Belgian version of the steak tartare, tailor-made for US (GI's) tastes at the end of WW2, and it is
30 Espion007 : Anyone else see it on a menu? yes if your willing to drive to new york.....
31 Jaysit : Steak tartare is delicious. The beef has to be very fresh and you need the right condiments in the meat presented to you - fresh black pepper, capers,
32 Post contains links MD-90 : Steak tartare is actually very nutritious. There are amino acids and proteins in beef that are changed by cooking so that your body doesn't get the fu
33 Andreas : Steak tartare, absolutely delicious, and yes, it is done with raw egg yolk, chopped onions, pepper, salt, some people like it with capers (is that cor
34 Logan22L : I had some fantastic steak tartare at a Japanese restaurant here. I forget the Japanese name of the dish, but it is "cooked" by marinating it in lemon
35 Post contains images YooYoo : Andreas, ...... stop now. Along with this tatar therad and the Weisswurst thread, you make me very hungry. I don't feel like driving an hour into Toro
36 Post contains images MD11Engineer : Andreas, Do you mean "Hackepeterschrippen"?! Together with pickled gerkhins and pilsener beer! Jan
37 Post contains images YooYoo : ah great.... now get the Pilsner involved I need to get back to Germany for a visit...i miss it so Andreas
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