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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2913 times:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050110/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_klan_highways




Of the judges that Robertson/Farwell were praying to God for there death, I wonder how they voted in this case.
Who'e side is God on in this case?


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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2861 times:

Isn't this the same stretch of highway that Missouri renamed the Rosa Parks or Dr. MLK Highway in order to piss off the Klan?


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2853 times:
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And here we go....

The KKK is repugnant in its goals, tactics, strategy, and history.

Their right to organize and express their views is expressly protected (not granted, but enumerated and protected) by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.....just like Fallwells, Robertsons, Jacksons, and mine and Fly's.

To deny them the right to participate in a public event due to their political stances and personal beliefs is illegal and would start us down a slippery slope.

Nothing says they can't be picketed.

interesting side story
I actually did some time in the Guard (while going to college) between RA active tours and we were called upon to separate the Klan from protestors in front of the capital building in downtown Atlanta. We had a guy named Johnson, a black dude, who had a pretty good sense of humor. The Klan somehow got the idea that we were there because we liked them, and they cheered upon our arrival in humvees and deuce and a halves. They were waving their American and Confederate standards and holding up signs....I looked at Johnson and then to my team leader (we were a LRS unit and were going to put up lp/op's to look for crowd organizers, Johnson was in my platoon but not on my team) and without asking for permission I inquired of Johnson whether it might be a good idea to wave back to our adoring fans. He agreed that this was a truly excellent idea and would be good for morale and for public relations. We waited in our covered humvee until the Klansmen were within good visual range of us and all dismounted the vehicle forming an honor guard. Everyone seemed to think we had someone important coming out.....and out came Johnson carrying his M-16 with his maroon beret (we were a jump unit) while the rest of us were wearing kevlars. There was dead silence from the crowd, and Johnson walked to the end of the honor guard line and waved with a no-shit Prince of Wales wave to the Klanners who immediately turned tail and walked away (I guess its tougher to hurl insults at armed soldiers than it is to do so at civilians...all bullies are cowards). IT was the funniest thing you ever saw in your life. Hosea Williams (civil rights activist) was there and had about been ready to explode when we first started to form up, but waited, as he had been a soldier and recognized that something wierd was happening. The CO came up just as we were falling into a regular formation to wait and wanted to know whether we had seen the commotion. We told him that people left the area just as we showed up and he reported (gleefully ignorant) that we had quelled a minor disturbance on the south lawn of the capital and were proceeding to deploy.

I say let the bastards talk all they want....lets just get the message out that they are idiots and racists who want nothing good and the public will continue to revile them and turn away from their idiocy.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2852 times:

Mdsh00:
Of the hundreds of schools, streets and other places in America named after MLK and Rose Parks is hardly to piss off the KKK but to honor to great Americans.

Why is it that conservatives fail to see that the KKK is a terrorist group?
They may not be as active as they were 40 years ago but they are still a terrorist group.

[Edited 2005-01-10 21:50:57]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2842 times:

DIO21:
OK so with that said, should Al Qeda (sp) be allowed the same rights?



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User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2826 times:
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Not if they are in open violent conflict with the US. If the Klan was openly conducting terrorist operations today then they ought to be banned from public demonstrations...in my opinion.

However their right to demonstrate and vocie their opinion has been defended by the ACLU and SPLC (go figure) and upheld by the court system.

I think that the Constitution actually has it right when the only speech expressly banned is sedition. The courts have muddied it by the famous "Fire in a crowded theater" but thats the cost of living in our society. There are going to be judgement calls all the time, and we are going to fight and argue over them.

What do you think about Al Queda's rights to demonstrate in this country?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

DIO21:
Not if they are in open violent conflict with the US.

Lynching isn't "open violent conflict with the US.

Aren't Blacks, Jews & Catholics a part of the US or just 2nd. class citizens that shouldn't complain?


I see Al Queda and the Ku Klutz Klan as one of the same. There goals are the same. They are both religious extremist. The KKK has bombed Churches too. Just because the KKK hasn't hijacked aircraft doesn't mean they aren't as equally bad.

Many conservatives in the United States don't see it that way because the KKK are White American Christians. The KKK aren't as 'foreign' to them but they are indeed a terrorist group.



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User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Why is it that conservatives fail to see that the KKK is a terrorist group?

As much as I hate the Klan, they have been very careful in recent years to keep their act clean, and crime free. There is nothing wrong with the idiots demonstrating, as long as they stay that way.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

The state of MO can still refuse to thank the KKK on the highway with signs. The court only spoke to the issue of participation in the program.

The state of MO can re-write their regulations to make public gratitude a completely discretionary act (that may already be the case).

That should piss off a group composed mostly of marginally employed yahoos and semi-literate bubbas with poor personal hygiene whose primary activity (other than watching NASCAR racing) is to claim racial superiority to overcome their lack of achievement in any human endeavor.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

PPGMD:
True, they have been dormant for years now but there goals haven't changed. Why do they feel comfortable in participating in government sponsored programs in today's political climate?


If Al Queda "cleaned up there act", would America accept those pigs in to the mainstream and be allowed to sponsor hiways?



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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2794 times:


A fine line at times, but I think the KKK can believe what they want, say what they will (we rely on this for them to reveal themselves as fools), but when they cross over to intimidation, or violence or anything that enters into lawlessness or terrorism, then they must be dealt with as such, and harshly.

DL021, that's a great story; I would have loved to have seen that.

Bottom line is we have to protect the right to speech and demonstration even when we disagree with the agenda. Superfly, I do see the KKK as something of a terrorist group, certainly at times anyway, but other times it is, I suspect, lawful congregation. Despicable, beyond insulting, yes. Illegal, not always. We have to draw the line hard, and make opinion and demonstration safe, effective, and nothing more than that. Yes, a slippery slope...

Logan


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29706 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

I don't know why you label these nuts as conservative Superfly.

Most of them where democrats in the 1960's, and Wizard Robert Byrd still is.

Isn't this the same stretch of highway that Missouri renamed the Rosa Parks or Dr. MLK Highway in order to piss off the Klan?


I thought it was Mississippi and the section was named after Rosa Parks.

Frankly that is the right way to tick off these nuts.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Jaysit:
That should piss off a group composed mostly of marginally employed yahoos and semi-literate bubbas with poor personal hygiene whose primary activity (other than watching NASCAR racing) is to claim racial superiority to overcome their lack of achievement in any human endeavor.


I doubt it. These are the people that elected there new governor Blount as well as Jim Talent and Kit Bond. These are the people that helped the margin of victory in favor of Bush, Blount and Talent.



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User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

If Al Queda "cleaned up there act", would America accept those pigs in to the mainstream and be allowed to sponsor hiways?

Yes. They would. Even if Al-Queida still preached that all non-muslims should die.

Criminal actions are punished. Beliefs can not be punished. Free speech is a right protected by the constitution.


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

If Al Queda "cleaned up there act", would America accept those pigs in to the mainstream and be allowed to sponsor hiways?

Unfortunately... yes. Now it's up to the state to decide whether or not they wish to take the money.



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User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2777 times:

Considering their lengthy history of terror tactics, giving the Ku Klux Klan the right to organize and express their views is a total joke. Its a strange interpretation by the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

But since according to the law there's no problem with this I guess we will now white trash picking up trash. As the article points out, this stretch of highway will now become a dumping ground.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

These are the people that helped the margin of victory in favor of Bush, Blount and Talent.

Exactly. Same thing.

My partner is from the South and each time I visit, my response is always "how can people this sweet, have politics this rotten?" I'm not implying that they're all members of the KKK, just that folks down there view the KKK with less animosity than others do -- Like a wart or a mole that they may not be proud of (well, most of them at least) but that they wouldn't ever consider removing.

Most of them where democrats in the 1960's, and Wizard Robert Byrd still is.

And with the grand exception of ex-Klan member Robert Byrd, the rest are all Republicans. Whats your point? Yesterday's dixiecrats and today's Southern republicans are the same creature - social conservatives. Call it tom-ae-toe yesterday, or To-maah-toe today. Its the same thing.

In any case, I think the Court may have done the right thing at this point by finessing this case. The KKK - like any other group one disagrees with - should be allowed to exercise its first amendment rights. They need not be acknowledged, commended, or feted for that though.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

For the record, I am NOT debating there right to free speech. They can run around in white sheets and wave the confederate flag all they want. I am talking about the state of Missouri not allowing some groups to adopt a hiway. The state should be able to deny them that. What's next, are these people going to qualify for 'faith based' government taxpayer subsidies?



L-188:
I seriously doubt any of these Klan members voted for John Kerry but I am certain they supported W.
Bryd may have been a Klansman in the past but hasn't introduced any bills reflecting the views of the KKK.
The KKK votes Republican. They openly endorsed Haley Barbor (Mississippi's governor) and David Duke left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party just as other Klan members. Louisiana Republican voters picked Duke to be there governatorial candidate.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Jaysit:
Good point man.

It's time for the GOP to dance with those they invited to the party.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16945 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

Why is this a victory for conservatives? The ACLU would fully support this.


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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Mdsh00:
Of the hundreds of schools, streets and other places in America named after MLK and Rose Parks is hardly to piss off the KKK but to honor to great Americans.


No doubt they are famous and important Americans, but I think L-188 reminded me of the case I was thinking about. The KKK did something like this in Mississippi and the state tried to block it. When the courts ruled in favor of the Klan, Mississippi retaliated by changing the name of the KKK stretch after a prominent African-American figure.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16945 posts, RR: 48
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

"These are the people that helped the margin of victory in favor of Bush"

False. Unless there was an explosion of KKK members in the last four years, they did nothing to tilt the election any more in Bush's favor.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

MaverickM11:
To answer your first question, the ACLU is neither liberal or conservative. Bob Barr belongs to the ACLU mind you. The ACLU defended the KKK's right to demonstrate and no one here is disputing that right.


Second; in a close race, every vote counts. Although Bush would never come out and publicly seek there support, his advisors taylor and craft his speeches in a way that would appeal to these group of voters. I don't think the Klan would have issue with many of Bush's policies as well as Blount, Bond and Talent. There wasn't enough of these nuts to save there man Asscroft when he lost re-election to a dead man.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16945 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

"To answer your first question, the ACLU is neither liberal or conservative."

I never said the ACLU was liberal or conservative; YOU are the one making the connection that a victory for the KKK is a victory for conservatives.

"Second; in a close race, every vote counts. "

Kerry had some unsavory supporters as well, especially among foreign leaders, but in both his case and Bush's, it was not the fringe supporters that made the election, it was the core constituency. One day the Democrats will see that--probably very soon since it's next in line after the anger and denial stages, which we've already seen.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

MaverickM11:
it was not the fringe supporters that made the election, it was the core constituency.

Perhaps that's the most scary thing about his election.



Kerry had some unsavory supporters as well

Don't try to change the subject as you like to do in other threads.
But since you brought it up, there were NO terrorist groups that endorsed or voted for Kerry.


especially among foreign leaders

You mean former allies that supported George H. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton?


YOU are the one making the connection that a victory for the KKK is a victory for conservatives.

Damn right! It certainly isn't a victory for liberals.  Insane



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25 B757300 : I don't know why you label these nuts as conservative Superfly. Because in his mind, only white, conservatives can be racist.
26 MaverickM11 : "Don't try to change the subject as you like to do in other threads." You were making the point that a man is measured by the quality of his fringe su
27 DL021 : Fly...if your point is that the State of Mississippi ought to be able to deny a sign to the Klan, then I agree. They are not obligated to recognize an
28 Post contains images Superfly : B757300: I knew I'd get that sort of reaction from you. You were the same person that was quick to judge Esie(sp) May Thurmond, Strom Thurmonds secret
29 Superfly : DIO21: Fly...if your point is that the State of Mississippi ought to be able to deny a sign to the Klan, then I agree. They are not obligated to recog
30 StowAway : Ok, first off, the KKK has become a terrorist group. I say "become" because the founder did not intend for that to be the direction. But, it is now, a
31 DL021 : I am more describing the practice of passing out political patronage to local pols by naming highways and bridges after them. If we are going to name
32 MaverickM11 : "Both groups indirectly support Bush. The Klan is at least savy enough for now not to publicly endorse Bush but they certainly share the same 'core va
33 ANCFlyer : I really don't know that much about the KKK to debate whether they are conservative or liberal It wouldn't matter to me whether their Conservative, R
34 Post contains images Thecoz : HA! I think it's great! Let them adopt the highway! Let them clean up the trash. I've got a few huge boulders in my backyard I don't need. Maybe I'll
35 BN747 : If Al Queda "cleaned up there act", would America accept those pigs in to the mainstream and be allowed to sponsor hiways? Yes. They would. Even if Al
36 Vafi88 : Superfly said: I don't know why you label these nuts as conservative Superfly. B757300 said: Because in his mind, only white, conservatives can be rac
37 SFOMEX : To link the Klan to Conservatives is plain stupid. For those hardcore liberals anybody who's not a Democrat pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage has to be a
38 Post contains images Superfly : SFOMEX: To link the Klan to Conservatives is plain stupid So how come when ever the Klan makes any sort or overture in to mainstream politics, they en
39 MaverickM11 : "A lot of conservatives are not racist" Are you ok??! It must have hurt you a lot to say that.[Edited 2005-01-11 07:13:23]
40 BN747 : To link the Klan to Conservatives is plain stupid. And that statement is more stupid. SFOMEX, either you don't know squat about 'the Klan' (is there s
41 Dc10guy : Superfly, The KKK is a part of the Republican base. Therefore, they cannot be a terrorist group.
42 Post contains images MxCtrlr : BN747, Any Klansman is conservative by sheer nature,... I think this is a perception problem. We all here have become so adept at throwing out the two
43 Post contains images Superfly : MxCtrlr: What this truly is, is not a "victory for conservatives" or "loss for liberals" but a coup for extremists. Excellent point! It's sad that th
44 StowAway : To answer your first question, the ACLU is neither liberal or conservative. Correct, but they are a thorn in the side of America. B757300, let me give
45 MaverickM11 : "Klansmen keep 'conservative' straight down the line.. no deviations whatsoever." So then Communists keep 'liberal' straight down the line?
46 Post contains images Superfly : Stowaway: The ACLU is only a thorn in the side of an issue or candidate that is 'trendy' at that moment. I remember in 1988, Papa Bush ridiculed Micha
47 MaverickM11 : "So then Communists keep 'liberal' straight down the line? Stay on topic. " I'm just using your "logic," and I'm using the term very loosely. You're s
48 SFOMEX : either you don't know squat about 'the Klan' (is there such thing as liberal Klansman???) or you don't have any idea what a being conservative means.
49 StowAway : The ACLU is only a thorn in the side of an issue or candidate that is 'trendy' at that moment. I remember in 1988, Papa Bush ridiculed Michael Dukakis
50 Superfly : MaverickM11: Not a cheap dig at all. You are the only member here that is trying so hard to find a liberal counterpart of the KKK. You have failed mis
51 MaverickM11 : "The Ku Klutz Klan on the other hand is a terrorist group that is exclusivley for White Anglo-Saxon puritans. They hate Blacks, Jews, Catholics and ma
52 Jaysit : The notion of socially conservative is what we are talking about here - not the divide in economic thinking between those on the American left and rig
53 MaverickM11 : "free critical thinking - something that the KKK or James Dobson or the Taliban abhor. Something that the communists abhor. And apparently something t
54 Superfly : Why do I even bother wasting my time talking with MaverickM11? Go to Missouri and help these people you admire pick up there trash.
55 MaverickM11 : "Why do I even bother wasting my time talking with MaverickM11? " You've never even bothered talking to me. You just call me a racist, yammer about so
56 Dc10guy : Born again, fat, gun loving, republican white males. That's the Klan in a nut shell .... George Bush counted on them for lots of votes ... And they ca
57 Post contains images Superfly : No one is running away from you MaverickM11. I certainly wouldn't consider you "racist" but you are certainly prejudice. You aren't part of any establ
58 Jaysit : I could argue that many among the Dems abhor "free critical thinking" Then argue. Lets see what you come up with. And I'm sorry - the promotion of the
59 Post contains links MaverickM11 : "I certainly wouldn't consider you "racist" but you are certainly prejudice." No more than you are. "I will not give you that sort of satisfaction." S
60 Superfly : MaverickM11: No more than you are. That's news to me. What race of people have I harboured prejudice views towards and made blanket statements about?
61 MaverickM11 : "You've already given me that "satisfaction" a half dozen times in this thread alone. Oh so you're proud of your bigoted views?" I'm using your own wo
62 Superfly : MaverickM11: You acussed me of being prejudice and calling you a racist yet you can't quote me on that.
63 MaverickM11 : "You acussed me of being prejudice" No, I accused you of being as prejudiced as I am.... ""and calling you a racist yet you can't quote me on that. ""
64 Post contains images Superfly : MaverickM11: I crafted my statements in a manner in which I didn't have to call you "racist". I know your just itching for me to throw the 'r' word at
65 MaverickM11 : "I crafted my statements in a manner in which I didn't have to call you "racist"." Ha. You are definitely going to be a very good politician one day,
66 Superfly : MaverickM11: I guess you can't have a civil discussion without personal insults, huh? After 65 replys, it's really no point discussing this matter any
67 BN747 : A truly conservative is not racist, that would be against the core of conservatism SFOMEX... no one said you were! Clear the smoke out of eyes and rea
68 MaverickM11 : "Finally, don't you ever think that you are on the same level as me. " You are delusional. "You've got serious issues dealing with others in society."
69 Captoveur : I don't agree with the KKK. That being said, the key to free speech in this country is not protecting the speech which you agree with, but protecting
70 MaverickM11 : "BTW, find one union worker that is a conservative. Now go to a KKK meeting and see how many union bumper stickers are in the parking lot. there is en
71 BN747 : BTW, find one union worker that is a conservative. Now go to a KKK meeting and see how many union bumper stickers are in the parking lot. BOY... talk
72 MaverickM11 : "Union Workers : Lynchings- NONE" You know that based on what...
73 BN747 : "Union Workers : Lynchings- NONE" ... You know that based on what.. "Union Workers : Lynchings- _______ Okay Brainiac... fill in the blank... BN747
74 MaverickM11 : "Okay Brainiac... fill in the blank..." I couldn't possibly begin to know where to find that out. But on the other hand I wouldn't make the leap-of-fa
75 BN747 : But on the other hand I wouldn't make the leap-of-faith assumption that union and KKK membership are mutually exclusive. Uh huh.. and that juxtapositi
76 Superfly : Captoveur: People tend to vote there pocket book period. Considering most Klan members are poor/low-income trailer park types, you certainly will find
77 MaverickM11 : "However these poor southern Klan members were overjoyed to have a man in the White House that shares there 'core values' " WHAT CORE VALUES????? The
78 SFOMEX : Maverick is right. The REAL intention of this thread was to put down Conservatism (just read the title). They could argue whatever they want, most of
79 Captoveur : My point, which would have required a little higher level thought from BN747 to understand (I know I was asking a lot) was this: Most members of the K
80 MaverickM11 : "As if common sense governs the brains of these people... PrivateOuevr, you;re not even firing on ONE thruster..." As if you know any better. The trut
81 Bruno : It looks like some members here rather get all caught up on symantics rather than disguss the topic at hand. Perhaps Superfly could have used a set of
82 BN747 : Why a black woman? Why not a latino? There are many more of those that could be easily absorbed into the Bush camp than blacks who would be willing to
83 MaverickM11 : "Your preposterous (not mention down right ignorant) comments reflect that... now just imagine an 'All white Bush Cabinet... that would be politcal su
84 BN747 : Superfly, what benefit does having minorities in Bush's cabinet give him? NONE. More minorities and women around the President are not going to help t
85 MaverickM11 : "No.. but less minorities will..which is what we had over the last 4 years (and for the upcoming 4). " MORE minorities voted for Bush in 2004 than 200
86 Captoveur : Wow.. The Democrats are supposed to be the party of the people. They are supposed to be the ones that pander to all the minority groups. Yet here is o
87 BN747 : My god.. are you getting dumber by the minute... by the hour is outta the question... "No.. but less minorities will..which is what we had over the la
88 Captoveur : I guess you actually work inside the Bush administration so you know exactly what is going on. You seem to be quick to shoot down what I say but you h
89 StowAway : Proof,again, that BN747 clearly lives in a dream world, and will spew baseless rantings. With that very short leash on Powell and Rice, they DARE not
90 MaverickM11 : "Now all of sudden YOU represent all white people....? Just wondering.. did you say that with a straight face???" Shock and dismay, when asked to back
91 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You know, I've been reading this thread and BN747s ranting and I am just beside myself with laughter. I can barely write this post! Insignificant posi
92 Superfly : Captvouyer: Colin Powell has tanked a lot of his credibility for coming to Dubya's defense and compromised his own integrity. He flip-floped on a lot
93 StowAway : White moderates who may be a bit uneasy on Bush's extreme right-wing views. And Superfly exposes how much knowledge is present within himself..... FAC
94 Superfly : StowAway: And Superfly exposes how much knowledge is present within himself..... Attempts at personal insults are unessasary Stowaway. Bush's policies
95 Post contains images StowAway : Radical conspiracy theories won't get you anywhere, either. Bush lets polluting industries write enviornmental legislation. Is it too much to ask for
96 Captoveur : Another interesting point. The people in question are minorities. That means they are not the majority. It may not be the easiest thing in the world t
97 BN747 : I am sure Dubya is sorry he did not appoint all blacks, but say he did appoint all blacks, what would you be saying about him then? Say Laura Bush was
98 Captoveur : I would behoove you to do some actual research on the KKK over the last 100 years. If you were white and in business in the first third of the last ce
99 Jmc1975 : Superfly, Well, at least your a really good guy to discuss cars with. However on eternal matters, it's another story.
100 BN747 : I would behoove you to do some actual research on the KKK over the last 100 years. If you were white and in business in the first third of the last ce
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