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Iran Working On Nuclear Bomb, Says Rumsfeld  
User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

"The US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, yesterday tapped into deepening international concern about a clandestine nuclear programme in Iran, warning that Tehran was actively working to develop a bomb.
Mr Rumsfeld's remarks, delivered during a visit to Germany, appeared to be aimed at exerting pressure on Tehran and the UN's nuclear monitoring agency, which meets next week in Vienna to decide how to respond to Iran's failure to honour nuclear safeguards".


http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,975496,00.html

Geez I had mentioned this in here last summer and everyone laughed.....This is the next destination for PNAC.....ummmm... What about Osama...oh thats right we have forgot about him.....

Ever wonder why the USA is building US Military Bases in Iraq(14 to be exact) we are going to be permanatly in that country.....that is the **sh plan.

I believe Iran has Oil too..........


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User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Interesting. *IF* we did invade Iran I would think using Iraq as a launching pad would be a bad thing. Iraq has a Shia majority and we know Iran is the largest Shia populated country in the world. I think that would probably turn most of the Shia's against us. I am also not sure about Iran having a lot of oil, someone on here can probably verify this.

Regards,

Delta767300ER


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

Let Europe deal with it. They are more at risk than the US is.

UAL


User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

On another note I would rather see the U.S. support an Iranian opposition group to overthrow the Fundamentalist than do a full scale invasion. I also think that over 80% of the Iranian population would like normal relations with the U.S.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Iran has admitted that they're working toward a nuclear capability. Sorry Randy but try again to find your next Bush bashing article and maybe you should lay off the koolaid for a while.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

At least he didn't start this thread saying his sister died or something...

I believe Iran is another Iraq waiting to happen...you'd think us kicking ass in Iraq would make Iran straighten up and fly right, but apparently not...go get em boys  Smile

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

"you'd think us kicking ass in Iraq would make Iran straighten up"


DeltaGuy........Wake Dah.F_ _ _ up

Those that oppose us in Iraq out number us 2.5 to one.......Wolfwitz told congress that the Iraqy people would greet us with ROSEs and Chocolate.....instead they have greeted us with CAR BOMBS and Beheadings. We have let them down....we have leveled their towns...killed their childern..many are still without water and electricity 20 months later.......But lets not forget we are protecting and improving the OIL WELLS sites.........

I think they would rather have Saddam back than us occupying their country somthing BUSH said we'd never do.

But hey....Haliburton has work for 20+years......thats all that really matters.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

DeltaGuy: I believe Iran is another Iraq waiting to happen...

Ignorant glossing-over-the-specifics got you into the first mess; You won´t fare any better in a repeat.  Insane

DeltaGuy: you'd think us kicking ass in Iraq would make Iran straighten up and fly right, but apparently not...go get em boys

Get into the army and repeat that when (if!) you´ve returned back home!  Pissed

You´re exactly what everybody needs most right now: Another armchair hero, cheering others on to die for your own ignorance!


User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Try looking at this from Iran's point of view.

They get labeled as a member of the Axis of Evil.
They see the invasion of their neighbor, another member of that club.
They have every reason to fear American intentions in the region.
Their conventional armed forces are no match to the US.

If you were them wouldn't you be thinking about developing nuclear weapons as a deterrent to being invaded.



'Opfer müssen gebracht werden (Sacrifices must be made)' - Otto Lilienthal
User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

I Hope the Iraqy People write in the name Saddam Hussian on their Ballots


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User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Delta767300ER:

"On another note I would rather see the U.S. support an Iranian opposition group to overthrow the Fundamentalist than do a full scale invasion."

You mean like when the last dictator, the Shah took power of the country?

" I also think that over 80% of the Iranian population would like normal relations with the U.S."

The Iranian Revolution took place as a result of the former regime's relations with the U.S. I don't think many Iranians have forgotten about the US supported coup which brought decades of oppression by the Shah.

I can imagine you are trully concerned about the Iranian people, but I'd suggest you first study Iran's history a bit better, specially U.S. involvement with Iran over the past decades, to be able to assess how normal Iranians exactly feel about having that same U.S. again as their neighbour and telling them what to do. Given their bad experience with U.S. involvement in their country, I don't blame Iran at all for trying to acquire an A Bomb.



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineStowAway From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 640 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

I Hope the Iraqy People write in the name Saddam Hussian on their Ballots

There is always one post in all of these threads that truly shows Randall's true colors.


Never fails....



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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Stowaway said...."There is always one post in all of these threads that truly shows Randall's true colors."

Let me bounce you on the side......your needle seems to be stuck in the same groove....



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

I like the fact that noone has yet mentioned the slap out of this world that Bush got with the latest video to appear from the Iraqi resistance fighters.

"And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”"


User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

instead they have greeted us with CAR BOMBS and Beheadings.

Rsmith what are you smoking? What percentage of the Iraqi population met us with such actions? About, what 7-10% at the most, and even then, only 1% is actually resorting to beheadings and car bombings.


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Jalto,

Its that 7-10% that make up the insurgency, even if it is a minority. It enough pissed of people (hundreds of thousands) that we are having major problems in Iraq.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Source, CPH-R?

Haven´t heard of that one yet...


User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Jalto......

What are you smoking.........I want my Choclates........Im paying for the dam war I want my countrys soldiers to get what they were promised.... chocolates.

Question for you..........What was Wolfiwitz smoking before he addressed congress???????.......PNAC HOOTCH???????



Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

What? Remind me what happened when we got to Baghdad Rsmith.

User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

There is very, very little chance of us invading Iran. If we are ready to go to war with them over the nuclear weapons, it would likely be a combination of airstrikes and special forces operations, not a full invasion like we did in Iraq. I wouldn't be surprised to see us striking at Syria either, if they don't stop supporting the terrorists in Iraq.

Frankly, I think we should let Israel deal with Iran. They are virtually an extension of the US military anyway. We should let them refuel over Iraq and let them bomb the crap out of the Iranian sites that are producing the weapons. The fact that no such attack has occured leads me to believe that Iran is not as close to getting nukes as everyone thinks. Israel's survival is on the line and there is no way they will ever let Iran get nukes.


User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

We didnt get Chocolates Did we......just answer the question......They were shooting at us then to......


Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

You mean they were helping us tear down a statue of saddam, and cheering in the streets. I'm sorry if they didn't feed us chocolates..if that is really what matters to you.  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Wolfiwitz said nothing about tearing down Statues of Saddam.


Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

I could probably believe this one as we all know about AQ Khan selling secrets to Iran. I think the better way to deal with this problem is to encourange a revolution from the new generation of Iranians. An invasion would be the stupidest thing we could do.


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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

Iraq didn't work out well.

Let's try Iran now.



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25 Rjpieces : I think the better way to deal with this problem is to encourange a revolution from the new generation of Iranians. That might deal with the hostile
26 StowAway : Let me bounce you on the side......your needle seems to be stuck in the same groove.... RSmith: That is the funniest thing I have heard all night. Wel
27 Aerorobnz : If I was being threatened by the largest nuclear superpower in the world I'd be hurredly trying to make nuclear bombs too. Until the US disarms theirs
28 Jalto27R : Wolfiwitz said nothing about tearing down Statues of Saddam. I'll tell my friends never to listen to Mr. Wolfiwitz, physic extrodinare ever again.
29 Falcon84 : I believe Iran is another Iraq waiting to happen It's too damn bad Iraq wasn't another Iraq waiting to happen. But you continue to bury your head in t
30 StowAway : Whoa, don't get the Generalization Train fired up for the night, Falcon!
31 Falcon84 : If the generalization fits, my friend.....
32 StowAway : You can always make a Generalization fit.... That is what one is! Man........Wow.....
33 Post contains images Falcon84 : You got a point there.... And it's not meant for you, to be honest, but some other members on the board.
34 Yhmfan : Iraq population: 25 million Iran population: 69 million Iraq area: 437,000 km2 Iran area: 1,600,000 km2 Forget the justification. Add to the above the
35 QR332 : I'd love to see them try. Dubya doesnt have the balls to try it, because he knows that invading Iran will make Iraq look like playing in a sandbox wit
36 Flyboy36y : It may seem like a fine point, but its not. It matters very much. Yes, they did help us tear down the statues of Saddam. They wanted him gone. But we
37 HAWK21M : Having a Nuclear Weapon is a way out for countries who feel they will be pressurized by the US. Ditto N.Korea & now Iran,must feel that if they have N
38 Pilotaydin : im sorry to say, that if the usa invades iran...that's it..it's going to be over for most of us here...bombs, deaths,chaos...americans will be killed
39 Aerorobnz : well said pilotaydin. A lot more people all over the world would feel it their duty stop the US Govt if they were to bomb any axis of evil countries.
40 Whitehatter : There is far too much ignorance of just what Iran is all about here. The Iranian government may be restrictive, but they had a revolution to install t
41 American_4275 : here we go: a) someone explain again to me why iran shouldn't be able to possess nuclear weapons, but israel should as well as the united states and a
42 Rjpieces : Why not discuss other doomsday scenarios in this thread as well? As I said before, the chances of a FULLSCALE American invasion of Iran are low. We wo
43 Rjpieces : Seymour Hersh is on CNN right now talking about his article in the New Yorker where he says the US Government has been conducting surveillance operati
44 Yukimizake : 'the US Government has been conducting surveillance operations on dozens of suspected sites in Iran--And that precision airstrikes and short term comm
45 Lehpron : >>"Let Europe deal with it. They are more at risk than the US is. "
46 Imonti : The US supporting an oposition group? Isnt that what you did last time and where is it now?
47 MD11Engineer : I assume that the Iranian government has learned from what happened in Iraq and has the manufacturing sites and weapons distributed over a large area.
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