Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11957 posts, RR: 43 Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
1. There could already be a thread on this subject, and if there is, sorry.
2. Please forgive any spelling errors or weird expressions. I'm trying to translate this from a Norwegian text...
In an exclusive interview with NBC's David Gregory in the White house, President Bush made some clear warnings for the Islamic religious regime in Iran.
Bush says he will do anything to protect American interests, and when questioned directly if he would be willing to go to war like in Iraq, the president answered like this:
"Hopefully we won't have to. But if it is necessary in order to protect America, and all else fails, and we have to use force to protect our citizens, then I will."
Earlier this week The New Yorker revealed that American commanding soldiers were already inside Iran on recognition missions to find potential military targets. The Pentagon have not admitted to this and claim the New Yorker are making it up. Still, neither the Pentagon or the white house wish to confirm that such an operation has not taken place in Iran.
Even though the white house have tried to calm the rumors of a possible invasion of Iran, George Bush answered the following when asked if he believes a military operation could be a reality:
"I hope we can solve this diplomatically, but I won't leave out any possibilities."
The US claim Iran have the technology to develop nuclear weapons. Iran have denied this several times, claiming their nuclear facilities are for power production only.
This seems terribly familiar. Anyone else get that feeling of Deja vu?
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Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1447 times:
I think we cried wolf too early, that if Iran is the real problem; do you think the American public will let that fly: Yes.
I remember the first days of action in Iraq, the tune from the Admin changed abruptly from WMD's to saving the Iraqi people -- Bush appealed to our humanitarian side. If he does it again, I'am sure we'll go to Iran whether for the Iranian people us their neighbors or whomever else. All humans get dumb if you appeal to 'pathos' as opposed to 'logos'.
Make it a human issue; that IS why we fight to defend ourselves, is it not?
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SLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
What do his approval ratings matter when he is a second term president? That is the problem with term limits. But OMG... I hope not again, to occupy three countries, but hey that would give us a continuous string of countries United States of Arabia.
Flybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
Maybe it will be one of those destroy key targets by stealth bomber missions...
Then if they are making nuclear weapons that'll put them behind for a while. If they decide to build up their nuclear stockpile again we will just level their munitions buildings again... if that fails, we just put more heavy embargos upon them and they will live in the stone age.
The reason why Iraq is going so badly is because of all the media scrutiny. Before an American soldier touches a hair on an Iraqi's head everybody screams "Geneva Convention". And the "Evil" US army is judged again by a world civilian viewing public that has never experienced a war, let alone heard a gunshot firsthand.
We cannot abide by ideals when it comes to war. In modern warfare civilians die, but ideally they are not supposed to. In modern warfare soldiers take matters into their own hands, but ideally there's supposed to be an accountable chain of command. The list goes on and on.
People must face that fact that friend or foe our soldiers cannot tell the difference. Can you imagine a place where anyone around you can pull a gun on you or blow you up and you have no clue who it is? A guy can be telling Coalition soldiers where some insurgents are located just to intentionally lead them into an ambush.
If orders are shoot to kill and take no prisoners, rabble-rousers will think twice about stirring up trouble and our soldiers will be safer. After all it's just a few little chicken sh*ts that trickle in from elsewhere that hold a vast majority of law abiding Iraqis hostage.
Honestly speaking when people go forth and criticize soldiers belligerently it makes me sick. The freedoms that many of us exercise as a birthright floats upon an ocean of blood. Please consider the sacrifices that they have made so that we can sit in front of our computers and argue the validity of war.
"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1314 times:
The reason why Iraq is going so badly is because of all the media scrutiny.
Are you REALLY serious? That the JOB of the media-to scrutinize!
The reason Iraq is going so bad has not a thing to do with a media simply reporting the daily bombings. It has to do with a President and his administration who thought they would be out in June of '03, had not freaking clue what they were getting into, and who had even less of a clue as to how to get out.
Talk about letting the person who started this insanity off easy, you just gave Bush a free lifetime pass, seems to me.
What a typically idiotic thing to say, when Bush is the one to blame, not the media.
Jake056 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
Gosh, why can't we just have an international body that all countries could belong to, and then they all could sit around and talk--you know, share feelings--and sort things out. Kinda like on Star Trek!
Oh sorry, I forgot we had the UN. That has been really useful.
Hey, give the downtrodden hope and maybe they'll rise up in these hell holes and realize that they can control their own destiny. With the help of the US, and be free.
Yukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
In an interview on an Iranian radio station the Iranian President Mohammad Khatami dismissed the prospect of a US attack over Iran's refusal to give up its nuclear program. He was quoted as saying"We think America is not in a position to take a lunatic action of attacking Iran"
Those sound like fighting words, maybe we'll be hearing GWB say 'Bring 'em on' again.
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