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User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1522 times:

From your respective countries which new sources do you see as most trustworthy and which ones the most extreme? (on both sides of the political spectrum). In Canada the Toronto Star is quite left wing, the National Broadcaster (the CBC) also to the left but to a lesser extent and the National Post is on the right.


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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1513 times:

The BBC.

Funnily enough Sky News (part of News International like Faux News) is extremely impartial and a superb broadcaster of 24 hour news. The ads are irritating though, hence my BBC fetish.

I wouldn't wipe my arse on most of our newspapers, but the Independent is a halfway decent read. Forget the Guardian as that's the paper of smug trendies trying to be radicals, and the Daily (seigheil) Mail.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1509 times:

New York Times, Wall Street Journal

Of course, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN  Nuts  Yeah sure

[Edited 2005-02-08 03:29:53]

User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7172 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1500 times:

I don't trust any of them as offering 'the truth' . However the BBC usually manages to stay inpartial so that's always a bonus.

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1497 times:

The New York Times, although the "right" will say it is biased, it's news reporting is excellent. The Op/Ed, is another story.

I also read "The Daily Worker" aka The Detroit Free Press.


User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1488 times:

I don't really "trust" any of them as they are all have self interests (news sources are a business too)...so if I read enough about the same events, I can really get a good idea of what's going on. With that said however, I am a big fan of the NY Times... Very good coverage with out a lot of BS involved.
-174th


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39717 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1489 times:

NPR (National Public Radio)
BBC
CBS
CNN although they can be a bit right-wing at times


Alternative local media for local issues such as Bay Guardian, SF Weekley, Beyond Chron.



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User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1485 times:

ABC
CNN
CBS
NBC

Thats about it. Definitely don't trust FAUX News thats for sure.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39717 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1481 times:

Usairwys757:
Definitely don't trust FAUX News thats for sure.

Awesome play on words!  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1470 times:

Haha, he trusts CBS but not Fox News. That's a good one.  Laugh out loud

Harry



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User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1465 times:

Yeah Newark, nothing like a good left wing spin on things every once in a while. I dont see whats so funny about trusting CBS over FAUX though? Enlighten me....

User currently offlineJake056 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1462 times:

NY Times is way too left. Ditto the LA Times and the Wash Post. Wall Street Journal is too ethereal. TV news in general is fed by the Associated Press. No balance there.

Bottom line is now with the internet can find multiple news sources from around the world.



User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Jake056:

I politely disagree with you. The New York Times provides excellent coverage, I really think that they offer a very fair news service. It's there Op/Ed section that is pure liberal.

I don't read the LA Times, or The Post, but the WSJ is very, conservative.

dtwclipper




User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39717 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Newark777:
At least when CBS has conservatives on there programs, they'll get someone who is at least intelligent enough to think on there feat and be able to have civil dialogue. When faux news has a token leftist, they are the wackiest uninformed individual who can't intelligently discuss the issue.
That's the best faux can do to get people to think there way.

CBS is professional while faux news is just sensationalism and bias.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Yeah Newark, nothing like a good left wing spin on things every once in a while. I dont see whats so funny about trusting CBS over FAUX though? Enlighten me....

It is not even about spin, it is about a news agency that has been found to have fabricated stories and made up evidence. That kind of negligent journalism should make you think twice about what they are reporting.

As for my sources of news, the NY Times is up there, as long as you tear out the last page or two.  Big grin I also enjoy reading the WSJ, and the NY Post, although that is more like a tabloid, and not real news. All TV news channels have some sort of bias depending on who is on and what the story is on, and is generally less reliable in my opinion than many of the print media sources.

Harry



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39717 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

it is about a news agency that has been found to have fabricated stories and made up evidence


I had a feeling that would come up in this thread. Over 60 years of professioanlism and one mistake was made. Yet the circus over at faux news goes on every single day.



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User currently offlineJake056 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

DTWCLIPPER. Thank you for being civil! Lot of folks get way too hot talking about these topics!

I used to think that the NYT was balanced, but I've seen too much in my work life to show me otherwise. My opinion, I know. thanks!


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

CBS is professional while faux news is just sensationalism and bias.

Superfly and I agree on something.

Sadly, CBS lost a lot with their memos from the 60s written on MS word. They will recover with time.

I am so sick of news anymore I just stick to the financial stuff. Wall Street Journal, The Economist, I also read Reuters and CBS market watch.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

I dont think any one source is trustworthy on an issue... but I'd say one can develope a decent overall view by alternating between them.


I prefer:

FoxNews
CNN
WeeklyStandard
Newsweek
CNN International
BBC

....in that order.



Sources that I do not think are decent sources of news:
Talk radio in general (e.g., Limbaugh, Hannity, etc)
NPR


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

I had a feeling that would come up in this thread. Over 60 years of professioanlism and one mistake was made. Yet the circus over at faux news goes on every single day.

It wasn't a mistake, though. It was a deliberate attempt by the news staff to falsify evidence and create a story that would favor their own ideological beliefs. It doesn't matter how long they have acted professionally, they are now known to have falsified evidence, and it is hard to maintain that they still have credibility. It will be awhile before CBS regains trust with the American people, and that process can only start when Rather resigns in the near future.

Harry



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User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Over 60 years of professioanlism and one mistake was made. Yet the circus over at faux news goes on every single day.

My point right there Superfly. One mistake and your ready to throw them to the dogs? I'm sorry if I dont get the feeling I'm being lied to when I watch Dan Rather report the nightly news. Besides, Dan Rather is perhaps the most professional anchor out there, who else do you see over on the frontlines in Iraq?


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Besides, Dan Rather is perhaps the most professional anchor out there, who else do you see over on the frontlines in Iraq?

Don't forget Geraldo Rivera.  Laugh out loud

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

It wasn't a mistake, though. It was a deliberate attempt by the news staff to falsify evidence and create a story that would favor their own ideological beliefs.

And you know this for sure? Or did the guys over at FAUX News feed that to you as well?

I'm not saying it was an honest mistake, I just wonder how you are so sure thats the whole reasoning behind the story.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

And you know this for sure? Or did the guys over at FAUX News feed that to you as well?

No, it was "fed" to me by those little-known news agencies such as ABC, NBC, NY Times, and CNN. All sources, biased both left and right, have said that it was no honest mistake, and that CBS went after this story knowing it was probably incorrect. And for what other reason would those so-called professional journalists fabricate a story like that against Bush, other than to hurt his reputation before the election?

Harry



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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5491 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Over 60 years of professioanlism and one mistake was made.

Whoa, Nelly!

Remember 60 Minutes and "Unintended Acceleration"? 1986 "expose" of Audi automobiles alleged to be killing people - and then repairing themselves?

CBS' primary source on *that* gem of a story was a group called the "Audi Victims' Network"- headed up by Plaintiffs' Lawyers who were suing Audi!

They never bothered to seek or air any opinions of independent automotive engineers, any one of whom could have told them that what was alleged simply could not happen as described.

It was all hokum, of course, but thousands of people lost their jobs as dealers went bust, resale value of cars plummeted without justification. And (of course) when all the dust settled, Audi was fully exonerated in every single case.

From and after seeing that ludicrous excuse for reporting, CBS News' credibility has been dog meat with me.

====

As for who I trust?

None of them without independent verification, but...

...for depth of reporting and the credibility that goes with such depth, i most favor NPR (in the USA) and BBC.

Amazingly enough, just here lately, I have seen some remarkably good reporting out of Xinhua, as well, though I have not submitted them to adequate scrutiny to decide whether they are just rewriting the work of other services.

As for accuracy of reporting, I see Fox as being perfectly adequate (notwithstanding the protestations of many). Their depth (just like other major networks') is insufficient.

I also enjoy the occasional foray into the world of Deutsche Welle.

And, of course, there's the inimitable Naked News!



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25 EZEIZA : No one should trust any news source 100% because a news report is made by people, therefore there is some level of subjectivity. i think that the more
26 MartinairYYZ : Who I DO NOT Trust: Any American News Whatsoever (yes, includes overseas US stations like CNN Int'l) Who I do Trust: Most European News, especially Eu
27 Post contains images Newark777 : Who I DO NOT Trust: Any American News Whatsoever (yes, includes overseas US stations like CNN Int'l) Who I do Trust: Most European News, especially Eu
28 CaptOveur : I jerk off to Al-Jazeera. Signed, Rsmith
29 Tbar220 : U.S., I prefer NPR news (All Things Considered). International news I prefer the BBC, which I can hear on my local NPR station.
30 Banco : I agree with Whitehatter than Sky News is actually remarkably good, given that it's a sister station to Fox News. CNN is pretty dreadful in its domest
31 SLC1 : I really don't trust any of them but here goes... NPR BBC SkyNews MSNBC C-SPAN and I agree with CNN International and the Daily Show, all things consi
32 UTA_flyinghigh : "Weekly World News" and "News of the World". Not to mention "Voici". UTA
33 707CMF : Info Pilote, aka 'la Gazette du parti' Pravda..; Cheers, 707
34 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : I thought you read "Marianne" UTA
35 707CMF : I also read Minute and Présent. Not to mention National Hebdo and Action Francaise. NOT. Cheers 707
36 Post contains links Saxdiva : The only news that seems to make sense anymore: http://www.onion.com/
37 UTA_flyinghigh : I prefer Hola! and The National Enquirer UTA
38 Post contains links Saxdiva : Oops... almost forgot the other one: http://slashdot.org/
39 707CMF : UTA, isn't the only newsreport you will watch on TV "Le journal du hard" ? Cheers, 707
40 Thom@s : BBC. If I ever come accross something on FOX or CNN that looks like big news, I alwas double check with the BBC to make sure it's for real. Thom@s
41 UTA_flyinghigh : UTA, isn't the only newsreport you will watch on TV "Le journal du hard" ? No, I also watch the "Hot D'Or". UTA
42 Post contains images Klaus : Reliable: - TV: ARD (public station) - print: Der Spiegel (opinionated, requires a working brain) Unreliable: - TV: all the private ones (about on par
43 FDXMECH : >>>I dont think any one source is trustworthy on an issue... but I'd say one can develope a decent overall view by alternating between them.
44 BN747 : I no longer trust any of them. At one time they exhibited true independence and appeared to uphold and treasure a public trust. Now they are corporati
45 N229NW : If you or anyone you know has ever been interviewed by ANY newspaper, small or large, and read the article, you'll know how amazingly wrong they can m
46 PJ295 : Here goes for my list BBC NPR CNN ABC NY Times Wall Street Journal Atlanta Urnal Constapation
47 Newark777 : Just to add to N229NW's post, we all see, and are the first to point out, all the mistakes the media makes when they report on aviation related news.
48 BN747 : A grain??? You'd be better off taking it with a 'pillar of salt'. The only thing I find worthwhile in the LA Times are stories such as one where a 're
49 Post contains links Klaus : N229NW: I like Der Spiegel too, when I want to bother reading in another language... They even have a small english section: International - SPIEGEL O
50 SKYSERVICE_330 : Evening news I usually watch the CBC's The National, if I get a newspaper it is usually the Toronto Star as they are provided to us on campus at no ch
51 Post contains links BCNGRO : - Catalonia: CCRTV http://www.catalunyainformacio.com Very fast and reliable information. - International: BBC, CNN and Aljazeera.
52 OYRJA : In Denmark: Tv2 Nyhederne and DR Nyhederne. International: Reuters BBC
53 Flybyguy : The New York Times Times Tribune (Technically the NYT) Wall Street Journal BBC - thorough international news coverage that has yet to be seen on Ameri
54 Post contains images Convair990 : The only news source I really trust is the "fair and balanced" Fox News Chanel.
55 British767 : BBC for me. They sound to me like they do not try to manipulate their words.
56 Sabena332 : Newspaper: Sueddeutsche Zeitung Magazine: Der Spiegel TV News: ARD and ZDF Radio News: All ARD stations like WDR, NDR, etc. Internet: Tagesschau.de (A
57 LH423 : BBC Radio-Canada/CBC CNN Boston Globe New York Times Economist LH423
58 Post contains images Delta767300ER : -Delta767300ER
59 BRAVO7E7 : Trustworthy: Fox News Fox News Fox News factcheck.org Fox News Clear Chanel Fox News Least Trustworthy: CBS
60 Iakobos : The venerable, respected and respectable BBC Some of the European public services, eg ARD (Germany) CNN International with between one and three pinch
61 Alberchico : All my life here in the U.S. Ive been watching Fox News .
62 Post contains links Phaeton : http://www.spiegel.de is an extremly good news source (in German). Otherwise http://www.bbcnews.com.
63 Runway23 : I find the BBC, the Figaro (France), le temps (Switzerland) and the new york times are those which I read the most often and seem to have the most rel
64 Post contains links SDLSimme : From Sweden, these are some of the sources that I find trustworthy: Dagens Nyheter http://www.dn.se Svenska Dagbladet http://www.svd.se Sundsvalls Tid
65 Arniepie : I can only speak for Dutch speaking media offcourse but in my humble opinion it must be: TV-News: -NOS-journaal (Netherlands) -in Belgium kanaal Z (on
66 ClipperNo1 : - TV: Tagesschau and Morgenmagazin from ARD. I hate private news. It's sometimes like watching Kent Brockman on The Simpsons. The two news stations we
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