WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2519 times:
Russia's eastern part has very little in common with its western regions. The only practical way in which Russia could join the EU would be for the country to divide as Czechoslovakia did, into two independent nations or even more. And that's a whole new ball game.
Phaeton From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2484 times:
I think if Russia could considerably improve their economy they have a chance of joining the EU, maybe in the late 2020s. Putin would also have to stop grabbing more power plus sort out Chechnya i.e. there is a lot to be done.
"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.", Winston Churchill
Pelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
This will never happen!
Not because the Russian economy can't improve enough.
Not because most parts of Russia are Asian.
But because they don't want to be part of something bigger without beeing the one and only leading power. They still dream of their past as an empire and they still think they can become an Euro-Asia emprie again. They can't accept their new role in the world.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14306 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
IMO opinion, Russia is too big, and once they sorted out their own problems well enough to pass the EU entrance criteria, they wouldn´t need us anyway. One idea about the EU is to have us smaller countries work together and speak with one voice, so that we can stand up politically and economically against the big countries, like the US, Russia and China.
Face it, even the biggest EU countries right now are size and populationwise just like smaller provinces of Russia.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8860 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2420 times:
If they get in, I'll get out.
I really don't see how Russia could possibly become fit to enter the EU anytime soon. What little democratic change Gorbachev and Yeltsin had achieved, Putin destroyed and keeps destroying. Given that the EU is a fairly democratic entity - albeit based too much on indirect democracy and bureaucracy - I think Putin's new Russian "Empire" entering it would be nothing short of a political disaster.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2417 times:
There is as much chance of Russia joining the EU as there is of Ukraine joining the EU (no matter how much the EU/US stooge in Kiev likes to portray otherwise). But it is for different reasons. And it nothing as presented above.
It has nothing to do with Chechnya. Spain has the Basque terrorists. France has the FNLC terrorists. UK has the IRA terrorists. Yet all of these countries are members of the EU. Terrorism should not be a determining factor.
It is because the Russian people (not the government) will not allow themselves to be dictated to by a non-Russian regime. Meaning that they will not allow a situation where domestic or foreign Russian policy will be determined by bureaucrats in Strasbourg.
Even the most liberal political parties, such as Yabloko, do not even want a Russia in the EU. The most that the Russians are looking for in terms of 'integration' with the EU is closer economic ties (without being officially tied to the EU and having to implement EU policy -- such as their pathetic aviation policy) and a visa-free regime for Russians visiting the EU (an issue which the EU has dragged its feet on for the last several years). Particularly in relation to the visa-free regime, the Russian people see that the EU is nothing but another bureaucracy. They already have their own bureaucracy, but at least it's Russian, and at least they have some control over it.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2399 times:
Yes Aloges, there is NO difference between the underlying factors in both Belfast, Barcelona/Madrid, Corsica and Chechnya. That of course being terrorism and terrorists. The difference being the Russians haven't bent over and allowed those terrorists to **** em in the **** time and time again.
Iakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3316 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2399 times:
Either you are a humorist of the third-degree Russo, or you have a blurry idea of what kind of individuals are most likely to travel from Russia to the EU.
Sure there are some diplomats, a good lot of "honest" businessmen, a few people with family or relations in the West, and even genuine tourists, but bureaucratic procedures are not meant for these citizens.
I leave you to guess.
Mika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2882 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
would the CIS have anything to say about that?
That sounds even more illogical than Russia entering the EU. The CIS countries are not even one part european. Even though i personally would welcome anyone into this union it just goes against any logic.