Alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2688 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1834 times:
or will the russian leaders themselves reject any notion of joining it
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David b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1824 times:
I don't think so. Russia will never make it. They are at least 10 years behind in almost everything. Also, only half of russia can joint the EU. The rest of Russia is in Asia.
Alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2688 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1821 times:
Also, only half of russia can joint the EU. The rest of Russia is in Asia.
Yes but Russia is considered a european country not an asian one
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David b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1807 times:
Yes but Russia is considered a european country not an asian one
Really, did you ask the people living in the asian half?
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1782 times:
Too big.
Russia's eastern part has very little in common with its western regions. The only practical way in which Russia could join the EU would be for the country to divide as Czechoslovakia did, into two independent nations or even more. And that's a whole new ball game.
Nealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
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Phaeton From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 406 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1747 times:
I think if Russia could considerably improve their economy they have a chance of joining the EU, maybe in the late 2020s. Putin would also have to stop grabbing more power plus sort out Chechnya i.e. there is a lot to be done.
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Pelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2530 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1731 times:
This will never happen!
Not because the Russian economy can't improve enough.
Not because most parts of Russia are Asian.
But because they don't want to be part of something bigger without beeing the one and only leading power. They still dream of their past as an empire and they still think they can become an Euro-Asia emprie again. They can't accept their new role in the world.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13369 posts, RR: 64 Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
IMO opinion, Russia is too big, and once they sorted out their own problems well enough to pass the EU entrance criteria, they wouldn´t need us anyway. One idea about the EU is to have us smaller countries work together and speak with one voice, so that we can stand up politically and economically against the big countries, like the US, Russia and China.
Face it, even the biggest EU countries right now are size and populationwise just like smaller provinces of Russia.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8394 posts, RR: 47 Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
If they get in, I'll get out.
I really don't see how Russia could possibly become fit to enter the EU anytime soon. What little democratic change Gorbachev and Yeltsin had achieved, Putin destroyed and keeps destroying. Given that the EU is a fairly democratic entity - albeit based too much on indirect democracy and bureaucracy - I think Putin's new Russian "Empire" entering it would be nothing short of a political disaster.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1680 times:
There is as much chance of Russia joining the EU as there is of Ukraine joining the EU (no matter how much the EU/US stooge in Kiev likes to portray otherwise). But it is for different reasons. And it nothing as presented above.
It has nothing to do with Chechnya. Spain has the Basque terrorists. France has the FNLC terrorists. UK has the IRA terrorists. Yet all of these countries are members of the EU. Terrorism should not be a determining factor.
It is because the Russian people (not the government) will not allow themselves to be dictated to by a non-Russian regime. Meaning that they will not allow a situation where domestic or foreign Russian policy will be determined by bureaucrats in Strasbourg.
Even the most liberal political parties, such as Yabloko, do not even want a Russia in the EU. The most that the Russians are looking for in terms of 'integration' with the EU is closer economic ties (without being officially tied to the EU and having to implement EU policy -- such as their pathetic aviation policy) and a visa-free regime for Russians visiting the EU (an issue which the EU has dragged its feet on for the last several years). Particularly in relation to the visa-free regime, the Russian people see that the EU is nothing but another bureaucracy. They already have their own bureaucracy, but at least it's Russian, and at least they have some control over it.
Russophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Yes Aloges, there is NO difference between the underlying factors in both Belfast, Barcelona/Madrid, Corsica and Chechnya. That of course being terrorism and terrorists. The difference being the Russians haven't bent over and allowed those terrorists to **** em in the **** time and time again.
Iakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3305 posts, RR: 37 Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Either you are a humorist of the third-degree Russo, or you have a blurry idea of what kind of individuals are most likely to travel from Russia to the EU.
Sure there are some diplomats, a good lot of "honest" businessmen, a few people with family or relations in the West, and even genuine tourists, but bureaucratic procedures are not meant for these citizens.
I leave you to guess.
Mika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2788 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1660 times:
would the CIS have anything to say about that?
That sounds even more illogical than Russia entering the EU. The CIS countries are not even one part european. Even though i personally would welcome anyone into this union it just goes against any logic.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8394 posts, RR: 47 Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1660 times:
Erm, well Russophile, you're entitled to your opinion.
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25 Alessandro: We shall see, first Romania and Bulgaria. Depends if the Russian population shrinks a lot and oil price. I can see the logic of Russia as EU raw-mater
26 Alberchico: And talk of Israel joining the EU? WTF??? As I recall Turkey is considered for E.U. membership so it is not at all science fiction.
27 Russophile: Iakobos Sorry, but it is you who has a blurry idea of what has been proposed, and furthermore you have a blurry idea of the Russian people in general,
28 L.1011: according to the U.N it is a european country . Why is that? Most of Russia is in Asia. Geographically, yes. But the population density is far, far hi
29 Iakobos: Russo, Nothing to be sorry about. I did not say a thing about illegal immigration, and I do not think there are potentially many Russians willing to m
30 Klaus: I´d say Russia´s chance of accession is only very slightly higher than China´s...
31 RootsAir: They are at least 10 years behind in almost everything. THEN HOW THE HELL CAN ROMANIA JOIN THE E.U
32 Alessandro: Russophile, you know this could be the solution for the Kaliningrad "problem" by joining, also would mean a improvement of living in Karelia, when Fin
33 SLC1: Mika, I was just wondering if the CIS would have any problem with their major nation going to another union.
34 NumberTwelve: Russia joining the EU? If Russia wants to join the EU - they can't! Reasons: torture in Chechnya and in Russia too death penalty Don't compare Chechny
35 SLC1: well, for the Death Penalty, Russia is abolitionist in practice according to AI, so couldn't they just outlaw the death penalty to join should they wa
36 NumberTwelve: SLC1, they are torturing. Only the US military in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo doesn't torture.
37 Alessandro: Abolishing the death penalty isn´t a big problem, cost in Russian prisons are low, Chechenya is a bigger problem. But on the other hand 1/3 of Cyprus
38 Russophile: Russians are our new and very dangerous mafia. So what you are saying is that 149,998,000 people need to put up with a mundane visa regime because of
39 Alessandro: Well, Lithuania and Poland has the right to decide their futures, bad luck for the people in Kaliningrad. Estonia and Latvia consider the majority of
40 Yyz717: Russia remains very impoverished and far too undemocratic to join the EU. I doubt this will improve in the next 25 years. Russia simply does not have
41 Alessandro: Yyz717, easy, the destinction in Latvia and Estonia is following, you have to be or have ancestor that was Estonian or Latvian citizens (some Russians
42 Avek00: All of this is really a nonissue, as Russia has absolutely ZERO chance of getting an invite to join the EU anytime soon, and by the time the Russian F
43 NumberTwelve: Russo: "It could very well be a solution. But the thing is there was no problem until Lithuania joined the EU, and the bureaucrats in Strasbourg effec
44 Klaus: Avek00: the EU will have long since disbanded by then. Don´t hold your breath... every single prediction of that kind has been spectacularly wrong so
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