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What Do You Think Of "the Police" In General?  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

There's an old saying: everyone hates the cops, until you need them.

Is this how you feel?



Then again, I'm sure there's those out there with the utmost respect for officers of the law: they put their lives on the line every day to serve and protect; only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want, while being called everything but a Child o' God as their reward.




So lay it on the line for us, and be honest. What say you about the cops, and what led you to feel that way?

(serious thread, no donut jokes or signed-by posts please)

48 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26597 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

Ok, can I make a bengiet joke, because I had a LA State Trooper make one at Krewe of Thoth last week  Smile.

Anyway, I think the police are great as long as they treat others with respect and are not corrupt. That is why I like the police in the UK so much, they treat everyone well and don't get on power trips (probably has something to do with not carrying guns). The police in the US tend to lean the wrong way a lot of times, though I have ridden along with the NOPD and they have some very interesting characters. Oh, and the TSA are not police so they need to get rid of some of their attitude (from a conversation with an LAPD officer at the stand behind the T1 checkpoint at LAX)



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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

They are still regarded around here as being Margaret Thatcher's private army. The less I have to do with them the better I'm afraid. I'm not someone who's anti-authroity either. I just don't have a great deal of time for them.

Tim.

Edit: The South Yorkshire police that is.

[Edited 2005-02-13 03:37:39]


Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

As a child I witnessed a hostage situation in northern Queens back in 1993. Needless to say that it was a terrifying situation with about 40 police officers training their sidearms on a deranged man who took his girlfriend hostage with a pistol. In a nearby building my parents and I were laying flat on the floor for fear that if the situation went wrong bullets would be flying everywhere. The situation ended in about 2 hours when the hostage taker was shot by police at an opportune moment (I believe one officer was wounded in the hand when the man attempted to fire at the police). That was the first and only time in my life that I have heard gunfire.

I feel quite secure about police... sure some can be rude, crass, and downright apathetic at times... especially in big cities, but when they are around I feel safer.






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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want

Actually, a lot of cops get paid pretty well, considering the government benefits that most of them get.


The only difference between law enforcement officers and private citizens is that anyone can make an arrest for a felony, but only cops can arrest you for a misdemeanor like speeding. But any way you look at it, local cops or your local sheriff tend to be a lot better than BATmen, the FBI, etc.


In a nearby building my parents and I were laying flat on the floor for fear that if the situation went wrong bullets would be flying everywhere.

Quite right to be afraid. It has been documented that government officials tend to be terrible shots.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

I think for the most part, we're pretty good guys and gals . . .  Big thumbs up


We're all human, as such, even cops go bad occasionally . . . I hate that, there's nothing I hate worse than a dirty cop.


I enjoy it . . . great job . . . it's not a power trip . . . there are rules (wish the bad guys had some) . . . do my job, keep my integrity intact . . .


[Edited 2005-02-13 04:02:03]

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

I think on a whole most cops are good, but it is the few bad eggs that we remember and talk about. There will be people in every job that go out on power trips and let it all go to their head, and with cops that is also true. The thing is, these people interact with the public and this behavior is on display. It is these cops that have ruined the reputation of many good cops out there. Of course, all the cops I run into happen to be of the arrogant power-trip variety.  Sad

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

I hate traffic cops, and I hate cops that are corrupt and those drunk with their own power, but I know there are good cops out there who I respect.

User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

I have a great amount of respect for the men and women who serve and protect us. They put up with a lot of disrespect from criminals and even the citizenry that they are there to protect, yet most of them do their job to the best of their abilities. Of course, my opinion is shaped by the fact that I've known law enforcement officers and work around them in court. Also, my great-great-grandparents served as Sheriff in Dallam County, Texas in the 1930s. My great-great-grandfather, Sheriff Alexander was killed in the line of duty while pursuing a group of cattle rustlers with two of his deputies. Two of the three rustlers were killed almost immediately thereafter by one of the deputies and the third man seriously wounded by the other. His wife, a deputy at the time, was promoted to Sheriff and fulfilled the remainder of his term.


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3263 times:

These people have difficult jobs that require skill, dedication, and courage. They do it for less money than the average person of there talent adn seniority earns in the private sector, and take heaps of abuse from certain sectors of society.

I respect them and support them in their efforts. Sure there's always going to be some bad seeds, but they are the minority. Most of them are looking to do their jobs and go home at the end of the day.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7784 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

I quite like em, they were one of the best bands of the early 80s. I was rocking out to them just the other day in my car.














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User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

I quite like them to be honest, got many cop friends and i socialise with many of them - i dont know any bad or corrupt cops only the odd incomopetant few.

im off to new york for some photography im sure to bump into new yorks finest?

whats the chance of a ride-a-long with a new york cop?

Ryan



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User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

I've had a few experiences with the NYPD and think they are the best police force I have experienced, and I know that many will disagree with me. I like New Yorkers in general actually.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3232 times:

whats the chance of a ride-a-long with a new york cop?

Depends, do you want to sit in the front or back?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Harry

[Edited 2005-02-13 06:00:38]


Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Hmm..depends, I hate traffic cops...seems they don't have anything better to do than pull you over coz you were going 5 km/h over the speed limit and give you a ticket for 100 bucks.


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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

Never had a problem with them except for those that insist on being a dicks about things they really don't need to be.

I work at an airport and, like most airports, it's forbidden to stop and stay in front of the terminal, even if you're in the car. But, instead of going to someone and informing them they can't stay and to move on and drive around again, they get nasty about it. It's things like that that get me. Otherwise, I've always found cops to be friendly, hard working people.

only to get paid salaries that a horse wouldn't want

Hmmm, someone might want to tell that to the MA State Police. What with there $50/hour overtime rates and other nice benefits (free education at any MA university, health/dental insurance, etc.) on top of their regular salary which still affords a comfortable lifestyle.

LH423



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

For every "bad seed" out there, there are thousands of honest, dedicated professionals out there, doing a job that needs to be done. They don't do it for fame, glory, or money. They do it to serve and protect.

Unlike most jobs, its not just 9-5. Some say an Officer is always on duty.


Patrolman Lloyd Aragon
New Mexico State Police
End of Watch: Wednesday, August 1, 2001

Biographical Info
Age: 37
Tour of Duty: 13 years
Badge Number: Not available

Incident Details:
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=15739


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

I consider most police to be over-paid goons. Here in Toronto they spend alot of time lounging around the upper-class n/hood I live in drinking coffee. I rarely see them working hard. Crimes go unsolved while cops work overtime "staffing" bar line-ups.

They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times.

Corruption in all police forces it seems is endemic, and they look after themselves first it seems.

I would like to see police wages/compensation tied to statistics showing the % of crimes solved. If they solve fewer crimes, their pay goes down.






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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Out here.
Efficient in Investigation.
A few problems of Corruption.
Im refering to only Mumbai city.
 Smile
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineFoxiboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 208 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3168 times:

Well for those who say they dont like them how many of you would call them if you were robbed etc ? or maybe we should just get rid of them then where would we be.

User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7260 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

If you go right by the law they'll go right with you. I've never had any problems with them, other than the aviation police at the airport, but I soon got rid of them.

User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times.

Yup, same kinda thing here in Adelaide too. Just yesterday, I saw a cop jump 2 red lights, and he had no lights or sirens..he just went straight through, luckily there was no traffic on the other roads. Real idiot, people like that don't deserve to wear the uniform.



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User currently offlinePanAmerican From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 384 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Isn't this spirit phrased by the sticker on the police car how you like your armed protectors best:

Here is the full story:
http://kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ed9cc47f-da34-405c-a679-9591ada281dc

Well, on topic I can say that the old saying in the original post is not what I think of the police.
They are mostly there to help and protect and I respect that.
Then they are also there to rip you off for traffic violations etc. Seems they have to fill up the cummunities cashiers as much as they can. That gives them a bad reputation. I also think some police officers are mostly people that like to be able to exercise some sort of power or authority and they enjoy doing that.

I don't know how the day-to-day live of an officer is from first hand, but watching the TV-coverage it seems it can be pretty tough to deal with all those problems. It's hard to deal with al those people who think they know better. However, it doesn't seem so dangerous to me. That might be different anywhere the crime rate is higher. Most of them (at least here) do not have to put their lives on the line daily except if they work in a hot spot or so.

PA



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User currently offlineAzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 757 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3155 times:
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Springbok747 -

Oh, really? When's the last time you got a speeding ticket for going JUST 5 km/hr over the limit???  Big grin

And what's your best time driving to Melbourne???



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12210 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3144 times:
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They speed for no reason, have terrible traffic skills, block traffic at other times. That can't be said about the New Zealand Police  Smile.

Heaps of New Zealanders think that the police (mostly Traffic and Highway Patrol) are just revenue takers for the Government. If the New Zealand public think this then it would be expected that they would keep in the speed limit, but no they don't. One day last year when I was spending a day shift with a traffic officer in an unmarked car, the officer and I parked on a hill and stayed there for about 15 minutes and pointed the stalker unit (shows appraching cars speed) and at least 90% of all the appraching cars were going over the speed limit. No wonder speeding drivers cause over 75% of all New Zealands road smashes.

I have huge respect for the New Zealand Police and I have heaps of police friends.





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[Edited 2005-02-13 12:49:19]

25 NumberTwelve : When I have to pay EUR 10 for parking without fee, I have to admit: my fault! When I am laying on the ground and still get walloped from (f.e.) LA pol
26 Air2gxs : What people need to remember is that the police make contact with hundreds of people each day. These people have varying attitudes (much like the peop
27 777ER : Air2gxs Couldn't agree with you more. Its amazes me how abusive people get.
28 NumberTwelve : But they have to behave themselves - they have to inform themselves what to expect. It depends on the country, I think. In some countries policemen an
29 Ryangooner : I consider most police to be over-paid goons please see my sig and username you may be right Yyz717 !! Poilce put their lives on the line every day th
30 MD-90 : I should point out that we all absolutely detest the local campus ticket cops, who aren't real cops, of course. Especially the fat one who rides aroun
31 Post contains images Springbok747 : AzoresLover.. Um, ok...maybe I was going 10km/h over the limit But, still, that's no reason to actually pull you over and give you a ticket...damn cop
32 Post contains images ShyFlyer : I was going 10km/h over the limit...that's no reason to actually pull you over and give you a ticket What should they have done, given you a big thumb
34 VHXLR8 : AzoresLover, In the state of Victoria, getting a fine for going 5km over the limit is pretty common. Ever since they abolsihed the 10% tolerance rule
35 57AZ : Actually that's an edited image of the Kern County Sheriff's car. The actual lettering said "We'll Kick Your @ss and Take Your Doughnuts Too!" Word is
36 Post contains links ShyFlyer : It seems to me some people feel that busting the speed limit is a "victimless crime" or not even a crime at all. Truth is, excessive speed and driver
37 ANCFlyer : Here's my humble, common sense approach to a TS. Open Highway, Speed limit 65, there are two vehicles both traveling same direction, me and you. You'r
38 Post contains links Learpilot : Like they say, it only takes one bad example to give the whole group a bad name. http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17542 They (probably purposely) n
39 ANCFlyer : Learpilot - that's probably function check, not a calibration. Techie types handle the calibration.
40 57AZ : Definately sounds like a function check. As ANCFlyer said, technitions do the actual tuning of the units and (if memory serves me right) are required
41 SCCutler : ANCflyer, you are cracking me up with your description of differing attitudes of your "customers." Maybe it's age or maturity, but last time I got pul
42 Post contains images ANCFlyer : "Bad Cop, No Donut." Ha Ha Ha . . . I have the very bumper sticker - given to me by my girlfriend - in the back window of the topper on the BAFDT. (I
43 VHXLR8 : With regard to the issue of speed tolerance, of course speeding is not a victimless crime. Nor is redlight running ( i was almost taken out by a guy r
44 Post contains images Springbok747 : Those fellow Melbournians here would remember what happened with the fixed speed cameras on the Western Ring Road, that were found to be wrong, and so
45 VHXLR8 : Hey Springbok dude, welcome to Melbourne!!! It really has gone beyond a joke here now; now especially with the 40kph limits outside schools.... c'mon!
46 Post contains images Springbok747 : Melbournians on the whole are pretty shocking drivers. Um..not really, I've seen some worse drivers right here in Adelaide! But..yeah, people there se
47 UTA_flyinghigh : Depends where and whom. Here An Garda Siochana are IMHO a good law enforcement agency, they're pretty laid back and don't blindingly follow the book.
48 VHXLR8 : Have an awesome time at the Grand Prix dude!!! Sadly i'll be working all through the grand prix : (
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