Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2636 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 550 times:
My dad and I were actually talking about this topic. Why won't the Russians accept assistance? Maybe it's because they don't want secrets to leak out. This nuclear submarine probably has many of Russia's military secrets. Enlisting aid from a foreign country could compromise Russia's national security. I wish Russia would put their apprehension aside and accept some help. My thoughts and prayers are with those 116 brave soilders on board that submarine.
Firefly_cyhz From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 167 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 538 times:
I think it has something to do with Russia's health. As we all know Russia isn't doing to good these days and by accepting help from other countries they would be admitting they were weakening and were no longer capible of dealing with their own problems. They may not want to admit they no longer have the power they once did have.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 23 Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 540 times:
Finally the Russians got some sense into their heads! A reuters article:
MURMANSK, Russia (Reuters) - Russia at last accepted outside help in its desperate attempt to save a submarine crew trapped on the sea bed Wednesday, but there were fears it might be too late for 118 crew no longer showing signs of life.
The crew of the Kursk which sank over the weekend after an unexplained accident, had stopped pounding SOS signals on the hull -- their only link to the outside world -- but officials said there was hope they were still alive.
Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov, the Navy chief, said Moscow had agreed to accept an offer of help from Britain, which airlifted a rescue mini-submarine to the nearby Norwegian port of Trondheim.
Frantic Russian efforts to dock rescue craft to the escape hatch of the Kursk had failed throughout the night. A third attempt, involving at least two rescue capsules, was under way Wednesday but was hampered by strong currents and foul weather.
Officials had said the crew, whose number was originally put at 116, would run out of air by Friday. But Kuroyedov suggested Wednesday that oxygen could possibly last until next week.
Interfax quoted Deputy Prime Minister Ilya Klebanov, leading an emergency commission on the disaster, as saying the sailors had stopped banging on the hull, but might not yet be dead.
"There is no sign of life, but from this it is not necessary to conclude something terrible," he said, adding that the crew might be resting to conserve energy as air ran out.
Later the report says that national pride may have prevented outside help from being accepted for so long.
Scotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 526 times:
Well they've asked for help now and its a guy from Scotland who's to get them out in his mini-submarine, which moved from Glasgow (Prestwick) to Trondheim on a Volga-Dnepr An124, accompanied by the other stuff on board 3 RAF C-130s. In fact, they'd taken off to go there before the Russians had even asked. I only hope its not too late.
Derek H From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 507 times:
Just think: You know there is no way your country can save you, it is only a matter of time before you die of either oxygen deprovation or when they try to free you, you drown. What would you do your last days? I just couldn't imagine what I would be doing or thinking. What would you?
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 511 times:
The situation is now looking extremely grim. Two separate reports I have heard on the BBC and seen on CNN.com suggest that the sailors may have been dead for days. I was looking on at the CNN site and saw that the Russians weren't letting the British mini-sub, called a "Bester" and that can hold 20 people, arrive by air at military bases that were closer to the crash site then Trondheim. The article says the sub would not get to the site before Saturday! Of course, the Russian deputy prime minister again changed his prediction that air may not run out on the crashed sub until August 25th . Although I do not like it, I am sure it will be too late by then. The Russian military is going to be in some deep s**t when some or all of the bodies of the crew are discovered. Right now, I am just hoping that something can get to the sub in time and rescue anybody, even if it is the last person alive on the ship.
Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 447 times:
I have heard this morning the sad news that all aboard the Kursk were lost. Apparently, there was no truth to the rumours that any of the crew had survived the sinking. All I can say is, I hope that Death came swiftly and they suffered little. I was at a Russian Orthodox church service this past Sunday, and the priest said a prayer for the men of the Kursk.
Lyubim Vas, Rebyata, My Vas ne Zabudim Nikogda!!! Vy teper' Angeli-Letayushiye Nad Nami, Dai Bog Vam Pokoia!
Pacific From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1035 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 422 times:
I read in the HK papers today that the Russians are going to try ask for foreign help and funds to do onbe of three possible options to prevent radiation leak. Russian experts say the leak could start in as little as a month.
1. Raise it and tow it to port.
2. Put a concrete casing around it.
3. Fill the sub up with foam.