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Israeli FM: Iran Able To Have Nuke In 6 Months  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...tml?type=worldNews&storyID=7645114

LONDON (Reuters) - Iran is six months away from having the knowledge to build a nuclear bomb, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said on Wednesday.

"The question is not if the Iranians will have a nuclear bomb in 2009, 10 or 11, the main question is when are they going to have the knowledge to do it. We believe that in six months from today they will end all the tests and experiments they are doing to have that knowledge," Shalom said on a visit to London.

With all of the activity in the past few weeks--The reports of drones over Iran, the article about US Commandos operating in Iran, this story--I'm beginning to think that a US-Israeli attack might happen much sooner than everybody thought.

[Edited 2005-02-16 18:51:07]

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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Just to clarify, 6 months away from the knowledge of how to build a nuclear bomb, or 6 months away from possessing a bomb, or possessing the equipment to build a bomb?

User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

As we've seen with Iraq, it is the capability which matters, not the knowledge.

Nice try Rjpieces...



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

And the propaganda battle Iraq-style begins again !



User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

True, Jaysit, lets wait till Bush & Blair will talk about the 45 minutes crap.
Another reason/lie to start a war.

And by the way? When will Israel have it's Atomic weapon?

Aaaaah, sorry, I forgot. They already have it.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

NumberTwelve, I'm comforted by the fact that I know firsthand that MOST Germans have learned a lesson or two.

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

True, Jaysit, lets wait till Bush & Blair will talk about the 45 minutes crap.

Not this time. Blair has ruled out any involvement in Iranian adventures.

If he tried to do a 180 on the issue then he wouldn't survive.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Not this time. Blair has ruled out any involvement in Iranian adventures.

If he tried to do a 180 on the issue then he wouldn't survive.


With all due respect for Mr. Blair, we don't need his permission (or support) to bomb the shit out of Iranian nuclear facilities (or let Israel do it). A fullscale invasion of Iraq is a different story, though, and most Americans see England as one of our best friends, a title they deserve.


User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

RJ, could you tell me what lessons you mean?

I learned my lessons and they say: don't believe the US admin and don't believe other ultra right wing governments like Sharon's war cabinet.

You have to understand: as soon as a person calls himself a "War president", he wouldn't have a chance in Germany.

And for your info: GWB will not be greated with an open heart, he is a war monger and those people we don't like in Germany. We had a racist till 1945 and don't want to have racistic presidents here.



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User currently offlineJj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

I honestly hope this whole issue with Iran doesn´t end up being like the one with Iraq.
Now, I think it´s hypocritical that Israel is warning about Iran having nukes, when ISRAEL has them as well. This is what pisses me off about the whole thing with Iran. Nobody has the right to have this weapons, so if Israel pretends a disarm (or not developing nukes) from Iran, Iran has exactly the same right to demand that Israel destroy their nukes.


User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Sure they do have, Jj, but Israel is supported by a civilized country, that (by the way) has used the Atomic bomb and people there are proud of it.

Crazy world.



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User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

NumberTwelve do you have anything else better to do than sit in this forum all day long and bash the hell out of my country. I'm sure you would be upset if we sat here and ripped on Germany each and every day.

Regarding Iran...who really cares what happens in that country. The Iranian government hates our guts and wants us dead. so why should I give a shit about what happens to them? I sure as hell don't.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

Now, I think it´s hypocritical that Israel is warning about Iran having nukes, when ISRAEL has them as well.

Of course you think that, Jj: you don't live in a tiny little country, surrounded by mortal enemies, who have called for your annihilation for 55 years. There's nothing hypocritical about it, but you can't understand that, can you?

Sure they do have, Jj, but Israel is supported by a civilized country, that (by the way) has used the Atomic bomb and people there are proud of it.

It's supported by YOUR country as well, #12. Germany and the rest of Europe is a huge supporter of Israel. So condemn your pacifist little self while you're at it, OK?


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Germany and the rest of Europe is a huge supporter of Israel

Ehhhh. I wouldn't say that Falcon. Israel-European relationships tend to reflect two things in my opinion, anti-semitism/history of it and relations with the US today. Italy, which was never really infected with serious anti-semitism, and whose government is a strong supporter of the US, are great allies with Israel. Germany, for reasons relating to the Holocaust, are big supporters of Israel. France, which has a lot of anti-semitism coming from their large Muslim population, and which is a vocal opponent of the US, tends to be low on the list of European countries that support Israel.

However, when push comes to shove, Israel only has one true friend in this world and that is the United States of America.

[Edited 2005-02-20 01:15:15]

User currently offlineYhmfan From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

Quoting Solarix (reply 11):
so why should I give a shit about what happens to them?


Because what happens to "them" affects you in the US of A!!!

You use a nice neat "surgical" strike against them and they use a not so tidy suicide bomber against you.

You cannot solve every problem by force.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 10):
supported by a civilized country, that (by the way) has used the Atomic bomb and people there are proud of it.


Damn skippy, proud of it. Saved a lot of lives . . . . a hell of a lot of lives.


User currently offlineStowAway From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 640 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 10):
but Israel is supported by a civilized country, that (by the way) has used the Atomic bomb and people there are proud of it.



Grrr.. some people just can see the larger picture. Oh well, step aside and let those who can call the shots, please.



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1166 times:

Good for Iran, will deter zionist and expansionist forces in the region once and for all...sort of a 'dont mess with us' weapon....sounds to me like they need it already as the US has made it clear Iran is next.


If there is a will, there is a way
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1159 times:
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Quoting EurostarVA (reply 17):


Now there's a lucid and well reasoned thought.....Not.

Quoting NumberTwelve (reply 10):


Oh, absolutely! We never should have used that weapon to stop the war. We should have continued firebombing and invaded the most heavily defended islands in the war even though we expected over a million allied casualties and more Japanese. We should have killed more so that we could avoid the criticism of people looking back 60 years later from their safe and comfortable places.. You are correct.......Not.

Quoting Schoenorama (reply 2):
As we've seen with Iraq, it is the capability which matters, not the knowledge.
Nice try Rjpieces...


OK...true. We know that they have the capability to send missiles far enough to reach Israel, and are not far off the ability to hit Europe. They are also proceeding down the path towards being able to produce nuclear weapons. At what point should they be stopped? Before or after they get both the weapons and the means to deliver them?



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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3450 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

Iran is able to have nukes in 6 months, and what about the nukes Israel is cherishing somewhere in the Negev since decades ?!

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13035 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

This may be a lot of hype, but Iran does have Uranium deposits within the northern area of their country, they do have enought educated people and unfortuntaly the motivation to go Nuke. Originally their goal was to operate electrical generating nuke facilities, but there is concern by them that they need to protect themselves from the USA and bordering enemies (like Iraq). Worse is as they are very clearly anti-western and extremely anti-Israel, they do want to be able to shake the big stick to put Israel in (in their view) their 'place' or be eliminated. Israel also may be hyping this up to gain support from the USA, their great protector. Israel, along with Iran, Pakistan and India should be forced by the UN, the EU and the USA to open up their nuclear programs to international inspections.

User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3450 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

LTBEWR, don't count on the USA to force Israel to open up its nuclear programs to international inspections !!! G.W.BUSH believes that Isarel's WMD are for self-defence !!! The US President is a silly or is taking the others for sillies...

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1135 times:
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Quoting Ts-ior (reply 22):


Oh please. Israel is highly unlikely to be selling WMD's to terror nations, unlike yours.



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User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

Quoting DL021 (reply 18):
OK...true. We know that they have the capability to send missiles far enough to reach Israel, and are not far off the ability to hit Europe. They are also proceeding down the path towards being able to produce nuclear weapons. At what point should they be stopped? Before or after they get both the weapons and the means to deliver them?


I believe the Iranian nukes issue should be dealt with in exactly the same manner as the West has dealt with Israel's nukes. Now that's Democracy!

/sarcasm



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1125 times:
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Quoting Schoenorama (reply 24):
I believe the Iranian nukes issue should be dealt with in exactly the same manner as the West has dealt with Israel's nukes. Now that's Democracy!


You mean pretend that they don't have them? I feel much safer with the Israelis having them, then I would the Iranians having them.

/not sarcasm



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25 Solarix : Schoenorama Two questions for you sir. 1. How many "government sponsored" demonstrations do you see in Iran where they chant "Death to Israel! Death t
26 Post contains links 777236ER : RJPieces doesn't even know what country Tony Blair is Prime Minister of...I'd take anything he says about current world affairs very lightly. I have t
27 Post contains images DeskPilot : I think this has been covered enough and agreement reached as per usual RJPeices, surprise us all by starting a post on a subject other than the Middl
28 Schoenorama : Frankly, I feel much safer with both sides having them! Iran and its population unfortunately know all to well about U.S. intervention in their own d
29 NumberTwelve : TS - since Iraq war everybody should know that - but unfortunatelly there are still some people who don't want to open their eyes.
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