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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4164 times:

I understand that this is an expression used in australia to refer to Englishmen.

Where did it come from and is it still used?


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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (reply 0):
Where did it come from and is it still used?

Yes it is still used. I don't know for sure but it probably comes from the bitterness that one develops for those who send you to the otherside of the world because they never want to see you again. Times have changed but old habits die hard.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

See http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/pommy.htm


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

I always understood pommie to be a corruption of P.O.M.E standing for Product of Mother England. Not sure where it comes from though - possibly an early form of Country of Origin information on English products exported to the colonies ?

User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

I'm proud to be English and if ever any Ozzy crim calls me a pommy barstuard I will show him my birth certificate. Next to the fathers name it says 'some soldiers'!!

Up yours Bruce.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

if ever any Ozzy crim..

Yeah...thanks for that mate  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (reply 5):
Yeah...thanks for that mate

I feel the same about being called 'Pakeha' but you live with it.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

The Prisoner of Mother England idea never made much sense to me, because logically it would really refer to Australians rather than the English. The derivation from "pomegranate" seems a little more likely.

Springbok747, since so many Australians persist in referring to the English as "pommy bastards" all the time, you can hardly complain when the "convict" insult is thrown back at you. In actual fact, they're about as bad as each other, and complaining about it just comes across as whingeing. So you call us "pommy bastards"? So what?



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User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Pommy bastards?! NEVER

It's whinging Pommy bastards thank you very much.

What's the difference between a 747 and a Pom?

The 747 stops whining when it gets to Australia.

Bruce, feel free to do that at any time. And I will be free to make you shit your pants and run for your life in the other direction. It's easy. Simply throw a cake of soap at ya. You whinging smelly Pommy bastard  Big grin


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

As a French friend once said to me; why do the Australians call you "whingeing" when it is they who are always complaining?


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User currently offlineRussophile From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4068 times:

We only whinge about the Poms. On the other hand the Poms whinge about fucking everything.

Classic case of a whinging Pom.

A young Pommy couple apply to migrate to Australia. They go thru all the bullshit and jump thru all the hoops one needs to do with DFAT. The big day comes and they board their flight to Melbourne. They arrive in Melbourne, step out of the terminal and find that it is pissing down. Less than 24 hours later they were on the next plane next back to England, never to return. Somehow the media gets a hold of their 'story' and interviews the couple before they leave. Two bigger bloody whinging Pommy bastards I think no-one has met. What do these whingers expect when they move to Melbourne in the dead middle of winter? Shit, even in summer you get the "four seasons in one day" that Melbourne is famous for. This is what you get after watching Neighbours 2 times a day  Big grin

Anyone waiting with baited breathe for the entrance of Qantasforever?  Big grin


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Your patience is appreciated Ladies and Gentlemen.

I need to collect my thoughts before I post a proper reply.

I'm shaking with excited anticipation of what is left to come.

"The suspence is killing me......I hope it will last."

QFF


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

It's supposed to be related to eating pomegranete fruit to prevent scurvy. The long ship voyage to Australia and the poor onboard food in pre-refrigeration days caused vitamin deficiency.

Of course most Australians have an Oedipus complex and secretly want to have sex with their mothers. This is due to an inbred desire to return to the place from which they were expelled.....


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

Quoting AirxLiban (reply 0):
I understand that this is an expression used in australia to refer to Englishmen


I don't use it. I urge other Australians to follow my lead.

Quoting AerorobNZ (reply 1):
Yes it is still used. I don't know for sure but it probably comes from the bitterness that one develops for those who send you to the otherside of the world because they never want to see you again.


Dear dear me - how this New Zealander dissapoints me so. My heart is breaking for you AerorobNZ, it really is. To think - leaving old blighty - that glorious tropical expanse drenched in eternal sunshine. Wide open spaces without a soul in sight. Long, white, sandy beaches caressed with smooth aqua waves. I'm weeping at the thought that I do not live in such a place.

Quoting Delboy (reply 4):
I'm proud to be English and if ever any Ozzy crim calls me a pommy barstuard I will show him my birth certificate.


Did you learn such language in prison?

I do not appreciate your beligerance - it belies so much.

Quoting AerorobNZ (reply 6):
I feel the same about being called 'Pakeha' but you live with it.


This might come as a shock, but acutally you don't.

Quoting Banco (reply 7):
Springbok747, since so many Australians persist in referring to the English as "pommy bastards" all the time, you can hardly complain when the "convict" insult is thrown back at you. In actual fact, they're about as bad as each other, and complaining about it just comes across as whingeing. So you call us "pommy bastards"? So what?


And would you choose to affix stereotypical insults to people of other races because certain individuals of that race choose to insult people of your creed?

I would hope not. And if you would not - then you will refrain from insulting my country further.

Quoting Russophile (reply 8):
Bruce, feel free to do that at any time. And I will be free to make you shit your pants and run for your life in the other direction. It's easy. Simply throw a cake of soap at ya. You whinging smelly Pommy bastard


Springbok - you know I have great affection for your contribution to the forums. However such comments are not condusive to a mutually respectful relationship. If you don't want the "C" word affixed to you then you will show more respect to Britons.

Quoting Banco (reply 9):
As a French friend once said to me; why do the Australians call you "whingeing" when it is they who are always complaining?


Such arbitrary observations reveal nothing of the true character of countrymen and women. I understand you feel the need to defend the honour of your nation in this conversation - but so do I.

Quoting Russophile (reply 10):
Anyone waiting with baited breathe for the entrance of Qantasforever?


I hope I haven't dissapointed anyone, eh - Russo?  Big grin

QFF


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

WhiteHatter -

You remain, as ever - the filthiest thing to ever participate in these forums.

QFF


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (reply 13):
respect to Britons


That alone was worth reading the entire thread!  Laugh out loud  Nuts



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (reply 12):
Of course most Australians have an Oedipus complex and secretly want to have sex with their mothers. This is due to an inbred desire to return to the place from which they were expelled.....


ROFL Roy!  Big grin

By the way, I wonder if there's more whinging Pommie bastards in Australia or Australians in Mother England?


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (reply 13):
Quoting Banco (reply 7):
Springbok747, since so many Australians persist in referring to the English as "pommy bastards" all the time, you can hardly complain when the "convict" insult is thrown back at you. In actual fact, they're about as bad as each other, and complaining about it just comes across as whingeing. So you call us "pommy bastards"? So what?


And would you choose to affix stereotypical insults to people of other races because certain individuals of that race choose to insult people of your creed?

I would hope not. And if you would not - then you will refrain from insulting my country further.


Er. Excuse me, but I didn't. I was responding to to a post rather hypocritically complaining about another user referring to Australians as criminals in a thread entitled Pom Bastards! As you say, if you don't use the terms then you can complain.



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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Quoting Russophile (reply 10):
...whinge about fucking everything.


lol - this f*word is typical Australian , I love the sterling and aristocratic Australian phraseology.

Quoting WhiteHatter (reply 12):
It's supposed to be related to eating pomegranete fruit to prevent scurvy. The long ship voyage to Australia and the poor onboard food in pre-refrigeration days caused vitamin deficiency.

Of course most Australians have an Oedipus complex and secretly want to have sex with their mothers. This is due to an inbred desire to return to the place from which they were expelled.....


Hopefully I get something else but pomegranete when I will fly with QF to BNE in june. Australians secretly want to have sex with their mothers? Mmmmh, my Aussie friends told me that British and New Zealand people want to have sex with sheep (secretly and in public)  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineReady4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3968 times:

Quoting Jasepl (reply 16):
By the way, I wonder if there's more whinging Pommie bastards in Australia or Australians in Mother England?

Yes - this was what was in my mind as I was reading this thread so far, and contemplating going to the pub for lunch, and being served by the Australian waitress.

The day I arrived in Melbourne last year (for a holiday), I went into a wine bar and instantly heard people talking about the "pom bastards" and what a waste of time they were... So that holiday started well...
And in the airport catching the flight to come home, one of the guys at immigration was asking why it was so difficult [for Australians who move to Britain] to get bank accounts in Britain, and really having a go at the Brits about this in front of me. But as I was about to leave he started asking what was the best way into Britain for him to come and work here. I was a bit confused: did he want to come and work here or not!? When someone bitches about something that they then appear to want, it comes across as bitterness/jealousy.

As someone who has lived in a few countres in my life, I don't understand anyone refering to another country's people in such a way - especially if it's a country that has so many immigrants in it!


User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Hi all you Aussies

I really love the way you bite just that little bit too easily. Personally, I love the aussies. Their humour is so close to my own it's great, the cut and thrust of measured responses, the intelligence they display is second to none (second rate and none of it!!).

Keep it up guys, this thread is making me smile so much.

Once again, up yours Bruce!!


User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

Poem...

To be said in an Aussie accent...

"As I was walking through Earl's Court,
Into a pub I was lured,
Where a nosey pom, said 'Where you from'
As I downed the amber fluid,
I said 'Listen mate, I'm an Ozzy right,
And am fixing to get plastered'
But the beer is crook, and the girls all look,
Like you you pommy bastard"

Taken from a sitcom that the previous poster should recognise

Kieron747


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Thanks for the replies!

Anyway, I got the answer I was looking for.

I'll be sure not to use the terminology when I am there in two weeks.



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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (reply 13):
Dear dear me - how this New Zealander dissapoints me so. My heart is breaking for you AerorobNZ, it really is. To think - leaving old blighty - that glorious tropical expanse drenched in eternal sunshine. Wide open spaces without a soul in sight. Long, white, sandy beaches caressed with smooth aqua waves. I'm weeping at the thought that I do not live in such a place.


Well quite, but said with the benefit of hindsight - they didn't know that when they left. 6 months on a boat harbouring resentment for being sent away from family and friends by force would be hard get rid of even living in countries such as we do. Kiwis have virtually no bitterness towards the English cos we went there voluntarily....that would also be indicative of my point.

We all still get the working holiday visa to go to the UK to see what our families left behind.There are so many Aussies in Hammersmith & Earls Court - It seems although we know we have the best, we still have to go and make sure for ourselves. I've still got quite a bit of time on my Visa to go back and work.

Quoting QANTASforever (reply 13):
this might come as a shock, but actually you don't.

Actually I do live with being called a Pakeha, and yes I do find it as offensive as you do being called a crim. It is a segretory word. However there are bigger fish to fry, and so you get on with life ie: 'living with it'


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

QFF...I never call the Brits as "Poms". I have many British friends here, and none of us call each other names. Also, here in Adelaide, I've never seen anyone use that word either.

the intelligence they display is second to none (second rate and none of it!!).

Delboy, have you ever been to Australia? If you haven't, I suggest you come down here then post such rubbish.



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25 QANTASFOREVER : Okay - I am an Australian without one iota of either "c", or British blood in me. So I'm afraid that any romantic feeling that may exist between the
26 Delboy : Springbok747 You totally missed the irony of my post and no, sadly I have never been to your wonderful country. I hope to one day very soon as I do, r
27 Post contains images Chris78cpr : Damn! And i opened this thread thinking that we would be talking about Pom Bears! Chris
28 QANTASforever : Delboy - You obviously don't love Australian culture very much if you are willing to ridicule us through incorrect stereotypical colloquialisms. QFF
29 Banco : You've got to be balanced on this, QFF. You can't say all of that to Delboy without a whiff of criticism towards everything that Russophile said. Pers
30 DeskPilot : I don't use that expression, nor do I hear it being used these days. So I think reference to "many" is a sterotype, or maybe you mistakenly thought "
31 QANTASforever : In all fairness it's not my job. I've already objected to the language used by one Australian here and have urged more respect for Britons. I don't a
32 Gman94 : Trust airliners.net to turn what is normally friendly banter between two countries into a politically correct rant. People really need to lighten up a
33 Post contains images Banco : Well, actually, I've already said that it doesn't bother me from either angle. What Russophile said is water off a duck's back to me, merely part of
34 QANTASforever : Gman94 Would you call a black person the "n" word? Do you think that all women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen? Do you think that disa
35 Banco : No, don't bring that into it. It isn't the same. You may not like it, you may object to it, but it absolutely is not racism, in either direction.
36 QANTASforever : It bloody well is like racism. God - making generalised comments about people based on their nationality - that is discrimination of the same low ebb
37 NYCFlyer : guys, lighten up. when Americans and Canadians make fun of each other, it's good natured. You make fun of each other because deep down you like each o
38 Arsenal@LHR : Oh, and by the way, I like the UK and Australia. You make fun of each other, but it's all in fun. If some Australian called me a "damn Yank" (it's hap
39 Silverfox : i understand that Oz wants to be a republic Great, then we get Earls Court back! What i like about Oz is that when you see it it means you are getting
40 Kieron747 : Well, it seems that my previous post (#21) was not received to well by an Australian member! I really think that people should lighten up a bit. I ser
41 Post contains images Banco : Well, that did remind me of the comedian (can't remember who he was or his nationality) who opened his act at the Montreux Festival with "Hello Moose
42 DeskPilot : Oh QFF, you off all people should know there's life outside Sydney. Tell me, did you explain to a few Sydneysiders that it isn't a wasteland outside
43 Post contains images AerorobNZ : Oh come on QFF. everything and everyone that exists can be poked fun at in some way or other, there are no rules to who you can and can't laugh at...a
44 Nycflyer : PS. I'm in Canada now, is there a nickname for Canadians? damn right there is. we call 'em.....CANUCKS in general, when you're dealing with people who
45 Post contains images DC10Tim : Seriously guys what is this all about? For sure I make fun of the Aussies (they don't half talk a good game of rugger ) But I don't get how so many in
46 Qantasforever : Ultra sensitive? No. Proud? yes. I have a sense of humour I just don't find this sort of nationalistic "humour" to be at all funny. I never said that
47 VHXLR8 : From my humble understanding: the term comes from Prisoner Of Mother England. A term obsviously given to the convicts. However in the early to mid 20t
48 Delboy : This thread could have been so much fun, but no, someone has to take the moral high ground and turn it into a big debate. You know who you are, maybe
49 QANTASforever : Hahahaha I do know who I am, and well done for having the guts to address me directly. You wouldn't believe the enjoyment debating this gives me - it
50 Banco : Excuse me? Care to explain that remark in the context of everything you've said about not having any problem with Britain?
51 QANTASforever : Absolutely. I don't hate Britain, I don't hate the British, there are many endearing British qualities and many aspects of the United Kingdom I have
52 Banco : I would humbly suggest that this may be more about you than anything else. If you seek a lacking in respect as assiduously as you clearly do, then yo
53 QANTASforever : Banco, I'm a big boy and can separate my persona on a.net with my ability to read international relations. Lack of respect on a.net is the furthest t
54 Banco : That's really not what I meant. It's just that I see you looking for evidence of disrespect all the time. Naturally, you will find it.
55 QANTASforever : Believe me - I'm looking out for evidence of a lack of disrespect (huh?), I mean - evidence of respect all the time just as I am looking for the bad.
56 Gman94 : Can I ask you QFF what exactly do you feel that the current British government has to apologise to Australia for?
57 QANTASforever : I'm not really after an apology. As I said I am unforgetful of injustices - not seeking compensation. And I have never said that the current Blair La
58 Banco : Well then, here's your chance to get them all down in front of us all.
59 QANTASforever : It would stirr up all kinds of things and the British people here would object because they would think I hold them all personally responsible.... ..
60 Orion737 : I like Australia and most Australian I have met, however, there is on thing us brits cant forgive you for and that is sending all your 'actors' over h
61 Banco : Well, we can't answer them unless you tell us what they are, can we?
62 QANTASforever : Orion737, I hate to break it to you but those aren't actors. You can blame British television stations for choosing to air such drivel. QFF
63 QANTASforever : I will mention some ON THE CONDITION that you and other British members here realise that I do NOT hold you, or your current government accountable f
64 Orion737 : Stop sending your terrible wooden actors over here for panto. You keep hold of them! Australians coudnt act their way out of a paperbag!
65 QANTASforever : I know. I was saying that to Cate Blanchett the other day...
66 Post contains images Gkirk : Dodgy Aussie criminals
67 QANTASforever : In the context of the conversation I did expect more from you GKirk. I'm dissapointed. QFF
68 Banco : The introduction of smallpox was hardly deliberate. The stealing of weapons and other tools as you put it is simply the kind of thing that happened w
69 QANTASforever : Well, I'm sorry - it happened here, the British did it, and I'm looking at an Australian context exclusively. It severely disrupted the nomadic lifes
70 Banco : Many wrong things happened around the word. The British were responsible for some of them. Funnily enough though, they're more likely your countrymen
71 Delboy : QantasForever PLEASE, PLEASE stay in Oz, never visit us in the UK, you will bore the pants off everyone you meet in 10 seconds flat. I have not read s
72 QANTASforever : It was a shortsighted one that they were able to justify to a public living with blind pro-empire furver. It was the British who pressured the Austra
73 Christa : QFF, I know that you love your country and everything that YOU believe it stands for and means. However, I do think that you make remarks that seem ha
74 Post contains images Gkirk : Glad to see your still easy to wind up QFF, keep it up or a.net would be boring
75 Gman94 : QFF you took this whole from thread too far from the moment you replied to it, you really do try your hardest to give people around the world a negat
76 Jasepl : LOL! I don't know about the boring bit, but the wind up part is bang on Kirkie! QFF is just too gullible and predictable!
77 Post contains images Gkirk : Jasepl, he knows Im only joking. I would very much like to visit Australia when I have the money and have a few beers with QFF, and tour the country a
78 Jasepl : Oh I loved Australia when I went there - Melbourne was fantastic and I'd go again in a heartbeat. I was just making fun of one particular Australian,
79 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : "Damn! And i opened this thread thinking that we would be talking about Pom Bears! Sad" What the hell? We opened up this threat thinking they were goi
80 QANTASFOREVER : Finally someone sees these posts for what they are. No, I am striving for emancipation. If I do not live up to the doting Australian stereotype then
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