Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 6 Posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3139 times:
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What should of been a exciting day was not.
GREENE --- North Butler High School students expected to gather for a pep rally this morning. They intended to cheer the girls basketball team before its first game at the state tournament.
It's doubtful spirits were high, however. Two teenage students were killed in a one-car rollover Saturday afternoon on County Road C45 south of Shell Rock. Anna Souhrada, 16, of Allison, and Lindsey Harms, 15, of Clarksville, died as a result of their injuries.
Souhrada was reportedly driving east near the Willow Avenue intersection when she lost control on a curve, according to the Iowa State Patrol. The Pontiac Grand Am entered a ditch and rolled. Harms was ejected.
The accident was reported at 1:15 p.m. and remains under investigation.
Both girls when younger attended schools in Allison and were members of the Trinity Reformed Church on Cherry Street in Allison. Greene and Allison schools began sharing high school and middle school students for the first time this fall.
"They were very positive and outgoing ... very caring," middle school Principal Dan Huff said. "Great smiles. We're really going to miss them."
Souhrada, a sophomore, was active in chorus and was a wrestling cheerleader. Harms, a freshman, played for the freshman basketball team and was known for making other people laugh.
"They were typical high school teenagers. They enjoyed life and had lots of friends. They always had smiles on their faces," North Butler High School Principal Tom Hamrick said.
The girls basketball team plans to honor Souhrada and Harms during its game in Des Moines. Coaches and team members will wear baby blue and pink ribbons on their jackets, the girls' favorite colors. They also wrote Souhrada's and Harms' names on their shoes. Basketball girls will also wear an armband in Harms' honor since she was a basketball player as well.
"Lindsey was one of our number one fans at the games," assistant coach Beth Endelman said.
And when Souhrada could make it, she cheered on the team as much as she could.
Endelman taught both girls for four years at Allison.
"They were never in a bad mood. They were always smiling," Endelman said. "They were full of life."
School officials were reformulating plans for the North Butler pep rally this morning.
"It's going to be much more subdued," Hamrick said.
The girls represent the Allison community's fourth unexpected death in one week. Paul Koenen, 61, of Bristow, died in a snowmobile accident Feb. 28 in Wisconsin, and Dennis Rewerts, 53, of Allison, died Friday, because of medical problems. All were members of Trinity Reformed Church.
A memorial service is planned for the girls at 1:30 p.m. Wednesday at the Allison-Bristow gymnasium in Allison.
Call Jessica Miller at (319) 291-1581 or e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org. Dan Haugen contributed to this report.
Anna was wearing her seatbelt, but was badly injured, so they intented to fly her by helicopter to the University of Iowa Hospital but instead diverted to Waterloo where she died. Lindsey died almost instantly as she was ejected and the car rolled on top of her. Very, Very sad. My thoughts go out to the families, as one of the police officers who responded saw her own daughter dieing.
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STLUAL747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 167 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
Well there was a similar event of a kid dying at my school but from a different cause a few weeks ago.
A few weeks ago on Friday February 25th a 4th grade student died very suddenly at my school. He had been at school that Wednesday. He collapsed Thursday morning, went brain dead Thursday night, and was removed from life support Friday afternoon. He was only nine years old. Our whole school was shocked when our priest at our church made the announcement after church that Friday. My school is very small so everybody knows evrybody and it hit all of us very hard.
We then used one of our built in snowdays for the funeral the following Tuesday. I have never seen a larger funeral. Everyone in my class almost began to cry. When I was at the funeral home I almost lost it. It hit me kind of hard because at my school we have school families and this kid was in my school family. I am now trying to get it out of my head.
The cause of death was pneumoccal meningitis.
As for your situation my sympathy goes out to you and the families of those victims.
RIP: Timmy Haber - March 24, 1995 to February 25, 2005
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
Quoting MD11LuxuryLinr (reply 3): ..and a good reason why 16 year olds shouldn't be given driver's licenses..
We should probably start a new thread for this, but the only difference between this world and one where you have to be 18 to obtain a license, unfortunately, is the age on the obituary. Entry-level drivers will have more accidents than the rest of the population because of their inexperience, not because of their age.
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Iowaman, my condolences to you, your school, and your community.
ILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3005 times:
" but the only difference between this world and one where you have to be 18 to obtain a license, unfortunately, is the age on the obituary. Entry-level drivers will have more accidents than the rest of the population because of their inexperience, not because of their age."
While that is a valid point there is more to it. It is (from personal experience) far to easy to get a DL in the USA. Hell in California we only spend 6 hours with an instructor and its often with another student in the car.
In many country you spend nearly 40 hours with a instructor and the driving tests are hour long or more and invloved everything.
You are right that inexperience is a big problem but in the USA we are just asking for more stuff like this to happen...
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
Memories of Michael Smith Baugh come to my mind when reading this. He Died February 9, 2004 after losing control of his car. The passenger, who encouraged him to speed up lived. Michael was a good kid who didn't deserve what he got, and he is truly missed. It made our graduation ceremony a grim one. They had a chair set out for him, and he should have been sitting in it. I wish teenagers would realize the dangers associated with Driving and slow down a little bit.
JCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2908 times:
We actually had two kids die in our graduating class (out of 200) during high school, one from an unknown heart condition, and another as a part of a murder-suicide (she was the one who was murdered). It was really hard to sit through the first funeral, because really it was the first time that anyone who I had really known had died. I played on the football team with him, and just the fact that he basically died out of nowhere, made it gutwrenching--especially for a freshman, as I was. The second one was a little "better" if you can say that. This girl hadn't shown up for school for days and was found to be high on coke when her and her boyfriend's bodies were discovered. It was kind of shocking considering we went to a really strict, academically-challenging Catholic school, but really her parents never cared for her...and her friends just had the idea that she was just one of those people who did their own thing and just never intervened.
I also "knew," but wasn't necessairly friends with several kids who died in car accidents while in high school in Atlanta. The age in Georgia to get a permit is only 15--and do you want to know what the factor was in all the deaths? Speed and seatbelts. It's absolutely repulsive that the state of North Dakota gives licenses to 14 year olds. Kids are just way too irresponsible at 14, 15, and 16 to be driving a car.
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2628 times:
...when she lost control on a curve
Lindsey died almost instantly as she was ejected and the car rolled on top of her.
While I understand it's still early, this already sounds like a hundred and one other unnecessary car accidents.
Instead of all the gushing about bright smiles and full lives, perhaps someone ought to be highlighting to other young people the importance of driving carefully, respecting the road, and wearing a seat belt. Then the bright smiles would still be here and the full lives would have been a little longer.
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2566 times:
I think France got a good system, people with new driving-licenes are only allowed to drive during day-time, if they want to drive during night-time they
need to be in the company of a experienced driver.
Had people killed at 18 (legal age of driving in Sweden) at my high-school, driving too
fast on wet road. His friend killed a bicyclist while arranging the funeral,
overtaking in fog, bloody d-head...
Shawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2532 times:
Yeah. It's happened several times at my school. I always feel sorry for eveyone who is affected by these tragedies. But I find it hard to feel sorry for the driver going 100mph sans seatbelt, and the passengers who did nothing to stop the situation.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13093 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2521 times:
It is a tragedy when anybody young dies or is killed. I have personally taken too many chances had close calls of my self while driving and have seen too friends, acquancies, school classmates and community members die or be seriously injured in auto and other accidents when they were young.
In the USA cars, insurance and getting a license are relatively cheap. Most young people are either working or have a parent whom can afford to pay for a child's car or insurance. For those whom live outside of cities, one needs a car to get around as distance and that the parent is working would limit their life activities. Also, one must get experience in driving at a young age to be able to drive to/from college or employment when leave high school.
In a number of USA states there are restrictions on under 18 drivers, including no driving between 11 pm and 6 am, not more than one other passanger in the car unless they include a parent/legal gaurdian and if you get 1 moving violation ticket or are involved in a chargable accident, a suspension of your license. The passanger limits were put in to reduce distractions to inexperienced drivers. Of course many drivers drive distracted putting in CD's, combing hair, on the cell phone and often may not put a seat belt on. Youth/inexperience in driving can compound distractions. Often too, many young drivers will be driving smaller or older cars. Weather can be an issue as young drivers will be inexperienced driving during freezing, snowy, wet weather. I wonder if the weather, 'black ice', mechanical issues were factors in the initial post's accident and deaths.
MIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 872 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2407 times:
i feel bad for the victims but I cannot help think they would still be alive if they didnt have a car. I think that driving is a priviledge that is earned with age, just like voting. High school students shoudlnt be allowed to drive.
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Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2379 times:
This is really sad news. Makes me very sad even though I do not know them. They really do have beautiful smiles, the principal was not lying. Every year we seem to have someone die at our high school. It is always sad to hear the news, but its sadly no longer becoming a shock. RIP girls.
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Stlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9345 posts, RR: 26
Reply 25, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2369 times:
Quoting MIA (Reply 23): i feel bad for the victims but I cannot help think they would still be alive if they didnt have a car. I think that driving is a priviledge that is earned with age, just like voting. High school students shoudlnt be allowed to drive.
you can't say that. they could have both keeled over today from a falling tree while walking through the park.
and if high school students can't drive, -WHO- should, genius?
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