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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

I can only shake my head (at the stupidity) at where this trend the last four days has yielded....

First, the church member who was supposed to end this Sunday's service with a closing prayer.. he closed it alright he took out 7 other parisheners with him!

2) Then 4year old kid was in a spat with his 2 year-old brother... goes and gets a gun from his moms' purse (for her protection) and blast his kid brother right in the head with it...

3) Last night, 3 thugs pulled a planned armed-home invasion in Beverly Hills.... but BHPD snagged all three... I'm sure the owners had guns on the premise... but it obvioulsy did them no good whatsoever.


4) Then there's the Atlanta douche (and you can't blame him for taking advantage of the primo situation EVERY criminal only dreams of--being escorted by a lone 50 year old ARMED female deputy--UNCUFFED!!!)

And saving the best for last...

The dumbass who was shot by his cat...

Apparently the gun was on a counter while a Michigan man was cooking and his cat knocked it off and IT went off--wounding the owner...


Only in America...

But we can't worry about that ... Yellow Alert says Al-Quaida has it's eyes on some 10,000 unguarded/minimally guarded airfieds with tons of private planes... but they failed to tell us what to do if a private plane is commandeered and headed for us... I guess the message is 'get ready to get scared'..all over again...


BN747


"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
but it obvioulsy did them no good whatsoever.

And they won't if they are unloaded and sitting in the closet.

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
The dumbass who was shot by his cat...

Yup, pretty damn funny . . . the cat knocks the gun to the floor and bang, guy get shot by his cat.  bouncy 

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
Then 4year old kid was in a spat with his 2 year-old brother... goes and gets a gun from his moms' purse (for her protection) and blast his kid brother right in the head with it...

STUPID Mother! I can't say it any plainer than that, STUPID! Too bad there's not a few questions on the background check to account for intelligence of the proposed gun owner in situations like this (criminals don't have background checks you know).


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

You know what the common demoninator is...they where all wearing pants!

Clearly a ban on pants needs to be enforced. Particularly on military or police style fatigues. They have no real use in polite society.



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User currently offlineDC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

Excellent thread BN747, What amazes me is that its almost becoming "no big deal" anymore. Just another gun nut mass murder. Someday maybe all guns & ammo will be banned. But hey, until then we can only expect more of the same.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6903 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

Natural Selection is at work again in it's inimitable way. Not even stricter gun laws would have done a bloody thing. There is a way to get around almost anything - criminals and idiots know that and continue to plunder the naive, complacent and vulnerable and abuse the rights of others to get themselves ahead- unfortunately an inherently human characteristic that will never be disposed of.

We all have to make the best of the situation at hand, not the idealist hypothetical situations that we all harbor. And the best, as much as it pains me to say it, is what we have at present.  dopey 

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
Yellow Alert says Al-Quaida has it's eyes on some 10,000 unguarded/minimally guarded airfields with tons of private planes... but they failed to tell us what to do if a private plane is commandeered and headed for us... I guess the message is 'get ready to get scared'..all over again...

If the Government has something to hold over everyone's heads they can far more easily manipulate them for their own means with the use of fear, it's a tried and true tactic that has been used for many centuries since empires like Rome first used it. It's nothing less than can be expected by the amoral bastards that hold the power in the US currently.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

This has got to be most educated rationale thus far...

Quoting L-188 (Reply 2):
You know what the common demoninator is...they where all wearing pants!

Clearly a ban on pants needs to be enforced. Particularly on military or police style fatigues. They have no real use in polite society.

You can tell this character is purely at ease and perhaps (and eerily) comfortable with these types of occurences. To him... it's another day of someones' cat being stuck up in a tree.

Okay, seriously for the rest...

Rob my man.... I hate to disagree... to an extent anyway.

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 4):
Natural Selection is at work again in it's inimitable way. Not even stricter gun laws would have done a bloody thing.

I agree with Natural Selection theory... but giving it a HUGE hand in the process is more than it can ask for.

1) Church guy could not have inflicted so much carnage with knife a machete...? Maybe, but not likely singlehandedly, the diff. being... you don't have to 'chase' people with a gun....

2) The 4 year-old could have gotten a knife and stabbed his brother instead of his moms handgun....clearly the gun option simplified his intent.

3) The Atlanta killer-hard to say... this is clearly a fault of the Atlanta Sheriffs Dept (or whomever the jailers are). It's unheard of a male inmate being escort 'uncuffed' by a lone female deputy/guard or anything... this is just outright bizarre...

4) The '3-thug Home Invasion Gone Wrong'... clearly guns make this crime much more easier to facilitate. The criminals biggest error..selecting a target in Beverly Hills-- good for the payday, awful for logistic getaway...BH is not readily freeway accessible and given it's small boundaries and plentiful policing....someone clearly didn't do their home work!

5) and now 'The Killer Cat'... a knife just probably would have put a hole thru his toe instead of his torso....

BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
You can tell this character is purely at ease and perhaps (and eerily) comfortable with these types of occurences.

L-188 is just a realist who knows that it isn't the guns fault some moron misused it or some irresponsible dimwit left a loaded gun in their purse where a kid got his hands on it.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
this is clearly a fault of the Atlanta Sheriffs Dept (or whomever the jailers are). It's unheard of a male inmate being escort 'uncuffed' by a lone female deputy/guard or anything... this is just outright bizarre...

And this is the fault of a gun how?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
The 4 year-old could have gotten a knife and stabbed his brother instead of his moms handgun....clearly the gun option simplified his intent.

And by what logic is the gun to blame?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
you don't have to 'chase' people with a gun....

Sometimes you do. It depends on how good of a shot you are, and how fast they can run. You don't really have to chase the slow ones.

Banning the guns is not the answer. I am sure the criminals who use guns every day would give them up willingly if they found them to be illegal one day.

Is the weather nice in your dream world BN747?


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5477 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1041 times:

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 6):
And by what logic is the gun to blame?

If you have to ask.... read no further, your thought process can't afford the answer.

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 6):
And by what logic is the gun to blame?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
you don't have to 'chase' people with a gun....
Sometimes you do. It depends on how good of a shot you are, and how fast they can run. You don't really have to chase the slow ones.

You're a 'Capt' in just what exactly???

StatOuevr... take 3 steps back and put down the remote! You surely are the warped by-product of one having watched too much television.

When some kills someone with a car 9.99 times out of 10, that is an accident. Even when it is done with intent, the car is then made a weapon to carry out a premeditated act.

Above, every single case is the perfect example of a gun being employed to complete a deadly task. The weapon facilitates the crime-- it makes it TOO DAMN easy to follow through (with. or without intent). Killing someone SHOULD be hard.The fault falls squarely on the weapon even if the user is cerebrally deficient! So for the vapid responses of ....

'Well cars kill people, we don't ban them..'

'They all wore pants,let's ban them...' (not the girl who claimed (Sunday) she was attempting to save her dad--now it turns out she tried to off him..'

What's more astonishing is how the guns nuts have an enormous tolerance for this kind of stupidity. Is there no end to what you people will except.. it seems there isn't. Your replies of 'well that's the way it is..' 'the gun didn't do anything' -- you can't possibly be that stupid-- how could the crime/incident have occured without it? It might not be a bad idea to seperate you people from the rest of us who find these stupid killings rather appalling. You guys are a danger to yourselves-- the problem is you just don't know it yet!

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 6):
L-188 is just a realist who knows that it isn't the guns fault some moron misused it or some irresponsible dimwit left a loaded gun in their purse where a kid got his hands on it. Is the weather nice in your dream world BN747?

One thing's for certain, you and L-188 belong together in that same gloomy, dreary 'someone-might-get-me-so I'd-better-be-on-the-lookout' mentally challenged world...

....my world says 'it doesn't have to be this way-- YOURS says 'why the hell not'... I'll take my rather pleasant one oveur YOURS anyday of the week/month/year!

BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1031 times:

As I stated in a previous thread, there needs to be greater investment into non-lethal weapontry. If a non-lethal gun can disable someone without having to kill them, why not use it? Just think how many lives can be saved. Fewer little girls getting shot accidently from a drive-by, fewer boys accidently shooting their siblings, fewer judges getting shot by mad men, fewer teens shooting their schoolmates for fun. I really think the gun industry needs to look into making better non-lethal weapons. They could probably make even more money as more people would purchase these sorts of weapons.


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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
When some kills someone with a car 9.99 times out of 10, that is an accident. Even when it is done with intent, the car is then made a weapon to carry out a premeditated act.

And of the hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition I have sent downrange not one of them has contacted a human. My gun is probably less dangerous than a car using your reasoning. How many times when a gun is discharged by an ignoramous and the bullet hits someone is that an accident? Probably most of the time.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
You're a 'Capt' in just what exactly?

I thought this was a website for airplane enthusiasts.. do some thinking and get back to me, you are the one that lives in hollywood. I'll give you a hint. "ever seen a grown man naked?"

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
Killing someone SHOULD be hard.

I have fired some guns with a pretty heavy trigger pull.. it wasn't easy to blow that watermelon in half.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
how could the crime/incident have occured without it?

You act like making it illegal will make all the guns magically dissapear.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 7):
someone-might-get-me-so I'd-better-be-on-the-lookout' mentally challenged world

Where do I give any indication my guns are for personal defense? Mine are locked away and unloaded. I enjoy shooting them periodically, but I mostly just own them to piss off people like you who think I shouldn't be allowed to own them. I also go out and buy ultra-violent video games just to piss off the people who want to blame the games for killings. The funny thing is, I have the video games that are supposed to train me to kill people, and I have the means of doing so.. Yet I haven't killed one single person yet.. Go figure.

Quoting Daedaeg (Reply 8):
As I stated in a previous thread, there needs to be greater investment into non-lethal weapontry. If a non-lethal gun can disable someone without having to kill them, why not use it?

Just try to buy non-lethal ammo. I tried once and the people treated me like I was Osama bin-laden himself when I tried to buy a box of 12 gauge bean bags.


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 984 times:

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 4):
Natural Selection is at work again in it's inimitable way.

How insulting. Say that to the seven dead church members in Wisconsin.



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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 980 times:

Quoting Martel Lovelace, NRA:

"A gun is a recreational tool, like a golf club or tennis racket.
You can kill someone with a golf club, you know."



Quote:
"Expecting a carjacker or rapist or drug pusher to care that his possession or use of a gun is unlawful is like expecting a terrorist to care that his car bomb is taking up two parking spaces."



Quoting United States Constitution, Amendment II:
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

AAndrew


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4356 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 977 times:

Quoting BN747 (Thread starter):
First, the church member who was supposed to end this Sunday's service with a closing prayer.. he closed it alright he took out 7 other parisheners with him!

Ok, this one hits especially close to home beacuse, well it is. The Sheraton Hotel where this took place is a few miles down the street here in Brookfield. A victim went to my old middle school. The killer worked at GE Healthcare a mile away. These last few days have been extrememly sad, eerie, and alarming. It is surreal seeing your nice Milwaukee suburb as a massacre headline on the BBC. These last few months have been an extreme wake up call to gun violence for me here in my area. It's one thing to see stuff on the news, but entirely different in your community and to people you know. A few months ago my elementary school teacher's daughter was murdered in a robbery while working at Arbys.

I just don't know what to think, and realize why I have heard this from so many people in the last few days: "whats this world coming to?"

More on the shooting:
http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news/4285703/detail.html



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 968 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 11):
United States Constitution, Amendment II:
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So every gun owner in the US is part of a "well regulated militia" and him owning a gun is "necessary to the security of a free state"? Following that logic, some of you are implying that the man who killed those seven people during the service defended the security of the United States of America. From religious zealots or what? Interesting, isn't it?
I think you're taking the second amendment way out of context to defend your little-boy yearnings for guns. If it was my constitution, I'd feel offended.

By the way, that shooting is a George Carlin dream come true: "Some nut will go fuckin' apeshit in a church, and they'll refer to him as a 'Disgruntled Worshipper'."

Edit: I'm sure that Mr. Martel Lovelace can show me the tennis racket and the golf club that can be used to kill a dozen people over a fifty foot distance in less than a minute? After all, if guns are just the same as tennis rackets and the golf clubs, there has to be a way to commit mass murder with them.

Bottom line: If the NRA wasn't so full of lying hypocrites, maybe it'd be worth listening to them.

[Edited 2005-03-16 00:26:32]


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 961 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 13):
So every gun owner in the US is part of a "well regulated militia" and him owning a gun is "necessary to the security of a free state"?

Actually that is quite correct. Every American has an obligation to defend the homeland. Akin, say to the French Resistance in WWII.

A lot of people try to claim that the militia that the amendment referes to is the National Guard but there had to be specific expections made in US law at the start of the 20th century to authorize their creation. It was not mandated by the 2nd amendment.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 954 times:

Nice job of taking my lines out of context, L-188. It's what you do with the 2nd Amendment, why not continue with my post, right? You know that "all gun owners" includes those idiots mentioned in the opening post of this thread; do you really think these people owning guns makes your country safer?


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 950 times:

How did I take your words out of context?

You took a viewpoint that I do not agree with and I simply corrected your error.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 15):
do you really think these people owning guns makes your country safer?

No but it doesn't make the country less safe. Every gun bill that becomes law and fails to stop gun violence and gun crime proves that.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16948 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 948 times:

"I can only shake my head (at the stupidity) at where this trend the last four days has yielded...."

I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to use all gun examples to show that guns kill, or that stupidity kills? I can wholeheartedly agree with
the latter. All you've managed to prove is that stupid people and guns don't mix. That's not the gun's fault. Stupid people and ladders don't mix either, and in spite of many ladder-related deaths through misuse, there's no march to ban the ladder.

"Then 4year old kid was in a spat with his 2 year-old brother... goes and gets a gun from his moms' purse (for her protection) and blast his kid brother right in the head with it..."

How many children drowned in open water during the same time? I bet you it was at least double. Time for a ban on pools yet?

"I'm sure the owners had guns on the premise... but it obvioulsy did them no good whatsoever.
"

Just like every other assumption made on airliners.net, there's a 99% chance you're wrong.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 941 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 16):
You took a viewpoint that I do not agree with and I simply corrected your error.

A viewpoint that you don't agree with is erroneous? Is that really what you said?

Quoting L-188 (Reply 16):
No but it doesn't make the country less safe.

Really? Well, I think a schmuck without a gun is less dangerous than one threatening me with his Magnum. But that seems to be an erroneous viewpoint, if I get you right.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 16):
Every gun bill that becomes law and fails to stop gun violence and gun crime proves that.

Make that "every gun bill that isn't enforced properly". After all, the generations of your parents and grandparents managed to keep African-Americans in the back of the bus for decades, why would yours fail to take away some people's guns?

disclaimer: bus example used for reasons of comparability



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 934 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 18):
A viewpoint that you don't agree with is erroneous? Is that really what you said?

Ok I admit that was a bit harsh, sorry about that. but I don't agree with your position on this, and will challenge you.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 18):
Well, I think a schmuck without a gun is less dangerous than one threatening me with his Magnum

The whole point is that guns don't cause crime, people do. And eliminating the former is not going to effect the latter....so why do it?

Crime is caused by society, not objects.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 18):
Make that "every gun bill that isn't enforced properly

You know what groups screams the loudest about the fact that gun laws are not enforced....The National Rifle Association. If you can't or aren't willing to enforce exisiting laws, why create new ones. They take a position that if the nation used the ones that exist, they could clamp down on a lot of problems, and some police districts that have done this have had good results.

Lets do that first.

Quoting Aloges (Reply 18):
After all, the generations of your parents and grandparents managed to keep African-Americans in the back of the bus for decades

Sorry, the back of the bus wasn't big in Wisconsin and Alberta, or Germany, if you want to go back 2 generation in my family.



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4356 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 932 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 19):
Crime is caused by society, not objects.

Having a revolver in your possession when you flip doesnt help!!!!!!!!

Its a 2 way street.



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User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 928 times:

Guns are like mini-WMD's. They don't keep any of us safe. I believe guns should be restricted to law enforcement. Our society is not responsible enough to have them.


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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6903 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 926 times:

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
but giving it a HUGE hand in the process is more than it can ask for.

Granted, but Humans have accelerated the whole Evolution process to begin with, and that doesn't happen without obvious side effects, in this case an increased natural selection process to combat the rapid advancements we have made. We as a species haven't overcome the natural rules of life, but we have just developed them to an extent we influence the process, as much as we are influenced by it.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 10):
Say that to the seven dead church members in Wisconsin.

I can't, they're dead. Unfortunately they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, they could have been any one of us and the point I was trying to illustrate is no matter what you do, and how you do it there is always gonna be something that causes serious harm to someone, and you just have to hope it isn't you or your loved ones this time around.

The newest trend is to go into a hold up with blood in a hypodermic needle and threaten them by saying the blood contains AIDS, but you sure as anything can't make needles illegal.

Since we became human, and probably before that we have come up with new and interesting ways of killing each other - It's the way our species works, and
has played a big part in our continued survival. As long as we have imaginations and sadistic minds we will have new weapons to inflict pain with, so whether you ban Guns will not change the number of people being injured/killed. Besides if you are prepared to kill, you are prepared to ignore laws, so having a gun wouldn't be an issue, even if they were illegal/restricted.

I would love to have a society with no guns, but it ain't gonna happen. In this case it is better to make do with what we have to work with, and try to spot most of the wackos during psychiatric testing for licensing before they get the opportunity to cause major damage. Inevitably though, we are not perfect and there will always be some that slip through the gaps.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 923 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 19):
Ok I admit that was a bit harsh, sorry about that. but I don't agree with your position on this, and will challenge you.

OK, all's fine with that.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 19):
The whole point is that guns don't cause crime, people do. And eliminating the former is not going to effect the latter....so why do it?

Crime is caused by society, not objects.

Old point, but still valid. You're basically right, but people without guns can't shoot others as easily as people with guns can. If there were one or two shootings in the US every year, I'd be as silent as Concorde is nowadays.

The thing is that the US has a gun problem unlike any other "First World" country. One step to take care of that is gun control, which does not mean I'm in favour of taking away everyone's guns. I just want people to recognise the responsibility owning a gun takes, and the best way to make them realise it is to challenge their right to own guns.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 19):
Lets do that first.

Amen. It'd be nice to see if that could solve the problems.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 912 times:

Yet another stupid, inane, same shit different day, US gun ban thread started and/or perpetuated by the same A-Net members who can't see the forest for the trees and argued by the same a-net members (L-188, Oeuver, ANCFlyer) who possess the sense enough to know a gun ban would be fruitless: The church members would still be dead, the cat would probably have still shot his owner, the 4 year old would likely have popped his little brother anyway, and some rich SOB would still have been robbed in Beverly Hills.

Like I said in the other thread, good thing is we got another gun ban thread out of the way, unfortunately, there will soon be another one.

Can't you folk get more creative - come up with somethnig else to ban, like sharp objects in the UK perhaps?


25 L-188 : Wouldn't have stopped what happened in Atlanta this last week. The bailiff would no doubt be considered a "Law Enforcement Officer" in this context
26 BN747 : Whoa... StartOvuer that's a sh*tload of guilt and self-explanation coming from someone who hasn't been remotedly accused of a gun crime! Who said thi
27 ANCFlyer : And another post borne out of ignorance. What part of "Criminals will have them anyway" don't you (and a couple thousand others) seem to understand?!
28 JpetekYXMD80 : Always been for extensive regulations on firearms and anti-NRA- For their agenda, and their abusive use of political power and influence. These views
29 L-188 : I too wish that the NRA would get back to their original goals of education and promotion. However the Sarah Brady's of the world prevent that from h
30 Daedaeg : L-188 and ANCFlyer, why in the world do you two people who live in the wilderness a.k.a Alaska even need a gun? Is Smokey the Bear gonna attack you? C
31 ANCFlyer : Ha Ha Ha - more ignorance . . . . As for the rest of your post - it's like a broken record - same shit over and over . . . . Geez, I can't believe I'
32 L-188 : Some guy in England just got Be-headed, and the prohibition of guns didn't stop it. I am not going to speak to ANCflyer, but I used to live in a plac
33 BN747 : ....great analogy.. but more holes than a spaghetti strainer.... Permit me to loan you a few brain cells.... If 10 people were beheaded (plus one by
34 MaverickM11 : "Mav11... not only do you understand what my point is..." What's your point then? When you say "I can only shake my head (at the stupidity) at where t
35 MD-90 : Every American male between the ages of about 17 and 50 is a member of the citizen militia. They ought to have access to all personal weapons that the
36 Jamesag96 : Ban all axes... Filler filler filler
37 N228UA : Gun crime has gone up in Australia because the state governments aren't willing to spend money on the police force. Banning guns does not lower crime
38 L-188 : No just require registration of full length single bit axes. Double bit axes should be under stricter rules, including fingerprinting and local law e
39 ANCFlyer : Your only solution is to toss out the standard issue Ban Gun Bullshit every time someone gets shot . . . Your posts are boring and laughable on this
40 BN747 : wow... you caught me off guard... I expected the standard 'waste of bandwith' retort. Very disturbing as one so close to this issue that you of all p
41 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Morning, you've gotten me confused with someone else, because I have never used the "waste of bandwidth" line - I simply call it bullshit. Your short
42 Banco : If guns are freely available in an open society such as the US, you're going to get gun deaths. It's inevitable. It's far too late to do anything like
43 ANCFlyer : I think there needs to be laws, tough laws, on owning weapons. And NO, everyone does not deserve to own a weapon. That said, Banco - banning guns is T
44 Banco : Well, I tend to agree from where you are now. It's like the old joke about asking directions from a country yokel who answers "Well, I wouldn't start
45 L-188 : Anybody from Switzerland want to answer that? Last time I checked Switzerland was in the middle of Europe, right on the trade routes from North to So
46 BN747 : ummm trading by horse-drawn wagons went out 100s of years ago.... What trade routes? Uh huh and let's see.. Adding more guns to that mix does what ex
47 Banco : I think in your desire to be sarcastic you missed my point completely. I was referring to the impossibility of getting rid of all guns.
48 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Banco - ole Buddy - that would be the normal response for Mr. B747. Sarcasm, ignorance and missing the point. As you can see by the last quote and la
49 BN747 : Yes my reply to your quote was a bit sarcastic.. but the questions posed are very sincere indeed and a questions than the chronically-in-denial types
50 Banco : I'm not getting into the stuff between you and ANCFlyer. All I would say is that my post just after should make it pretty clear where I was coming fr
51 ANCFlyer : WRONG again, still, as usual . . . Power trip! Ha, never had to pull the trigger in this job - but had the weapon out of the holster couple of times
52 BN747 : ANC your repeated returns to a discussion you label as 'bullshit', FOS, boring, laughable and other other overlooked adjectives indicates more here t
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