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DeLorean Dead @ 80  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

NEWARK, N.J. -- John Z. DeLorean, the innovative automaker who left a promising career in Detroit to develop the stainless steel-skinned, gull-winged sports car bearing his name and was acquitted of charges he planned to sell $24 million worth of cocaine to support the venture, has died at the age of 80.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...category=1110&slug=Obit%20DeLorean

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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
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Will they bury him in a stainless coffin with gull-wing doors?

He was an innovator and visionary who went wrong in his quest to bring something different to the market.

The car was cool.



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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

So...never found out what would happen if he made it to 88? Big grin

User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1025 times:

Quoting Backfire (Reply 2):
So...never found out what would happen if he made it to 88?

That's almost funny. I'd love to drive a DeLorean. I'd also love to check under the hood.

-R


User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

No Delorean is complete without the Flux Capacitor option

Kieron747


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 3):

That's almost funny. I'd love to drive a DeLorean. I'd also love to check under the hood.

Nothing special, it's just a Renault engine.


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 5):
Nothing special, it's just a Renault engine.

I was wondering what kind of engine I could fit under the hood. And, I'm not sure, but were DeLorean's built mainly with manual transmissions, or with option for either?

-R


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

How odd - I just saw a DeLorean zoom by while I was having a cup of coffee today.

I had a neighbor who had one. Daily driver, too.

JR – the FlyingTexan – I’m back!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29786 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 980 times:

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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13005 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 967 times:

Besides the car with his name, DeLorean was a big time executive for General Motors. He revitalized the Pontaic nameplate in the late 1950's, leading to the 'wide-track Pontaic' and more exciting models including the GTO. He was also involved with the Chevrolet brand in the late 1960's to mid-1970's.
As some of you may know, DeLorean had his famous (infamous?) car assembled in Northern Ireland, UK. He chose there due to substantial subsides from the UK government (whom would get screwed for over $80 Million USD) to help reduce unemployment. One important side effect of his plant was he didn't discriminate against Catholics and people of both Catholic and Prostestant faiths working together. The car had serious flaws, including poor preformance, overheating and workmanship problems.
Many famous people invested in the company as well as many dealerships (I recall one in my hometown in New Jersey).
He lived in a very expensive area of New Jersey since the 1970's, although he had lived a very downscaled life with all of the financial scandal he spawned.
Let him rest in peace.


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Hmmm, Delorean's do not have Renault engines, they have Volvo PVR-V6 engines with Lambda Sond engine management. The engines can be serviced at any Volvo specialist, or taken to the heir of Delorean. www.delorean.com

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 914 times:

I heard that while they looked fast, they weren't exactly high-performance.

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 882 times:

Just read that AP article/obit published in today's papers.

It contained a few particulars I did not know. A DMC originally cost $33,000 – that was a bucket of money in the early 80’s (still is, but less so today). John DeLorean was credited with pioneering the muscle car by dropping a V-8 into a Tempest and calling it a GTO.

JR FlyingTexan


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 868 times:

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 10):
Hmmm, Delorean's do not have Renault engines

Q: What's the engine?
A: It's a Peugeot Renault Volvo V6 (PRV-6) 2849cc Bosch K-Jet fuel injected SOHC 90 degree V6.

from
http://www.delorean.co.uk/DMUK/myths.html

so hmm yourself


User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 866 times:

I wouldn't necessarily call him an innovative designer. After all the DeLorean was one of the ugliest cars known to man.

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 14):
I wouldn't necessarily call him an innovative designer. After all the DeLorean was one of the ugliest cars known to man.

Maybe you think it's ugly. I personally think it's an interesting car. True, the flux capacitator version was much nicer.  Smile



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User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 863 times:

I do think it is ugly but I did not say it was interesting. I think it is a cool car, but it is still ugly.

User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 860 times:

No, it wasn't ugly. It was amazing looking, particularly at a time when cars in general had become very boxy. Too bad the DeLorean experiment ultimately imploded, because it added much-needed excitement to the auto industry at the time.


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13151 posts, RR: 78
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 859 times:

I think this really sums him up;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,1442273,00.html


User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 852 times:

I sat in a new one, way back yonder, and was amazed at how badly it was screwed together.

John Z, was truly a maverick. Too bad the ill fated sports car will probably be his epitaph for the general public.



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 842 times:
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dead of a heart attack.

Same thing that killed Colin Chapman, prob. due to the stress of the whole DeLorean affair...


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 842 times:

I actually thought DeLorean was a fictitious car made used for Back to the future !!!!


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7507 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 830 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 21):
I actually thought DeLorean was a fictitious car made used for Back to the future !!!!

Nope, there were some street models of the DeLorean sold as well.
http://www.ryanwright.com/delorean/ext13.jpg

Back when they first came out, I remember seeing a couple of them in my hometown.

I recall (not sure if it's 100% true) that John DeLorean originally wanted the car to be priced close to the Camaro and Mustang range (which was then, about $9000-$15,000) but dealers were charging $25,000-$30,000 for these coupes. While the car had unique styling, its sales downfall was due to the fact that it had mediocre acceleration and fuel economy; especially at its high selling price.

In other words, it lacked the performance of a muscle car as well as not achieving the fuel economy of many then-modern sporty cars. Keep in mind, in '81 & '82; the U.S. was still in an economic recession and the gas prices had not yet tumbled down like they would later on; so expensive sporty cars would not find too many buyers.



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 828 times:
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The US was also in the middle of a horrible winter when the car was released, and the early models suffered from terrible QC, and had to be reworked here in the states once they arrived.

User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 819 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 23):
The US was also in the middle of a horrible winter when the car was released

Not to mention the economy was sluggish, still. Plus he'd had to establish a dealer network for the vehicle.

I remember the one nearest me was a Buick dealership in SW Houston. They had a couple of the regular cars, and two that had been "painted". One was a deep blue and the other, red. I would assume getting paint to stick was a bitch. The car looked totally different, with a paint job.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 22):
I recall (not sure if it's 100% true) that John DeLorean originally wanted the car to be priced close to the Camaro and Mustang range

He'd been bantering the car around for a while. I remember seeing articles in main stream car mags for a few years before the car even appeared.



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