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The Unconscionable Behavior Of Mexican Soccer Fans  
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 34
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/3495034

In a repeat of last year's behavior at the US vs Mexico soccer game, fans were chanting "Osama, Osama"....  mad 

You have to be kidding me.

37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

No big deal.

It's when the batteries and bricks are thrown at you that one may get concerned.

Been there, done that.



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Watch young Mr Kirk blame that on England fans!!!!  bomb 

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

They were probably chanting "Hossanna, hossana", what with the holy week celebrations and everything... Wink

User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting Slider (Thread starter):
fans were chanting "Osama, Osama"....

The article refers only to 'a spattering' of fans chanting 'Osama'. This thread should be titled 'The unconscionable behavior of a spattering of Mexican soccer fans.



'Opfer müssen gebracht werden (Sacrifices must be made)' - Otto Lilienthal
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

As an interesting point, this was the first time in history the US media sent over 30 different reporters to Mexico or to a soccer event to cover a match of the US soccer team.

I don't know if this people knew about soccer [media] but apparently they've never been or seen what Europe or South America is and where boo's and aggressions are far worst!

Soccer and soccer fans are totally different and enjoy the games in a different way compared to rest of the sports. The true soccer fan gets really crazy with their team and support them to death no matters what, even if it's the national league or the national team playing.

I don't want to justify the mexicans attitude, but this is how soccer is in Europe and Latin America. Don't expect much!

Ricardo APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

Quoting Yukimizake (Reply 4):
The article refers only to 'a spattering' of fans chanting 'Osama'. This thread should be titled 'The unconscionable behavior of a spattering of Mexican soccer fans.

The description of "spattering" isn't lost on me, but I heard an audio clip of it this AM on the news and I guaran-damn-tee you it wasn't a spattering, especially in that massive stadium.

It's still intolerable any way you slice it.


User currently offlineEric505 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Can you blame them? I'm surprised Mexico didn't erupt in civil war after the 2002 World Cup. The US will get them back down the road so no need to worry about the fanatics.


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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting Eric505 (Reply 7):
The US will get them back down the road so no need to worry about the fanatics.

Sadly, as long as the border remains open and illegal immigration goes unchecked, the joke is on us.  mad 


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2918 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Why the hell would one idiot chant OSAMA ?. Mexicans have it already bad here in the U.S.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 3):
They were probably chanting "Hossanna, hossana", what with the holy week celebrations and everything

I hope this is another bad joke.


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2918 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

''I hope this is another bad joke.''


I personally hope that this turns out to be false or my view of Mexican soccer will forever be shattered  gnasher  This crap is unacceptable!!!



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User currently offlineJUANR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

This is just another proof of the American double-standard. Whenever people here at A.net make a comment about my country and relates everything to drugs and I complain they told me to take it easy as it was just a "joke"; I bet those Mexicans chanting Osama at the Azteca stadium had the joy of the lifetime, specially watching their team beating the U.S., but it was just a joke. When you male those things they are only a joke but when it is done to you it is unacceptable. Double Standard.

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7151 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

It was not just a joke. I take it easy when somebody says those Americans who cant speak english right.
Chanting Osama Osama is not a joke. They also showed no repsepct to the US national athem.
I hope we see them in the world cup and beat them again.
But the US is 0-23-1 and Azteca they need to win a game there!



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineJUANR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Flymia: it is a joke, just a way to celebrate and at the same time to piss off the American players; as for the National Anthem you are right, that is the most disgusting thing that I've seen, but not consider it as something against you, I've seen that all over the world with very different countries, I remember that in Peru once the whole opening ceremony was cancelled just to avoid the booing during the National Anthems.

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting JUANR (Reply 14):
Flymia: it is a joke, just a way to celebrate and at the same time to piss off the American players

Thats one hell of a joke. Next time I see Mexican Soccer players I'll be sure to chant 'illegal immigrants' or 'INS'



Go big or go home
User currently offlineJUANR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 15):
Thats one hell of a joke. Next time I see Mexican Soccer players I'll be sure to chant 'illegal immigrants' or 'INS'

Mexicans and all other Latin Americans have learnt to have fun out of that kind of comments, it won't affect them a lot.

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Thats a load of crap Juan. I guess it won't effect them when its true....


Go big or go home
User currently offlineJUANR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

You know that is not true AA61Hvy, at almost all venues in the US all the Latin American teams will play as if they were the home team giving the lack of interest in soccer of the average American. Perhaps if Americans start chanting "Migra...Migra.." the reply will be a louder "Osama...Osama!"

Is that the reason why you played last night game somewhere in Alabama?

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

Quoting JUANR (Reply 12):
Double Standard.

That was of a very bad taste (it doesn´t matter if we are talking about a soccer game or not). What happened on 9/11 in N.Y. must not to be taken to make jokes. Very bad joke by the way.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Juan, do your research son. I was born 10 mins outside Newark NJ, not exactly a white area. So there goes your theory of me being some hick.

If what was chanted was considered a joke, its no wonder there are no famous Mexican and Colombian comedians.

[Edited 2005-03-31 19:57:01]


Go big or go home
User currently offlineJUANR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 19):
That was of a very bad taste (it doesn´t matter if we are talking about a soccer game or not). What happened on 9/11 in N.Y. must not to be taken to make jokes. Very bad joke by the way.

Well Taca, but making jokes out of the drug problems we have here in Colombia is acceptable? I can tell you that drug have caused more troubles to Colombia than 9/11 to the U.S. I am not saying here that I would chant "Osama, Osama", I am only saying that is not such a big deal.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 20):
Juan, do your research son. I was born 10 mins outside Newark NJ, not exactly a white area. So there goes your theory of me being some hick.

If what was chanted was considered a joke, its no wonder there are no famous Mexican and Colombian comedians.

AA61Hvt: Sorry man, I did not say that you are a hick, I am only saying that chanting "osama" is not a big deal, sure none of them agree with what OBL has done. As for the word "joke" perhaps I used in the wrong way, the Spanish word would be "burla", (Make fun of people out of their disgraces), certainly for those Mexicans it was fun to piss off the Americans by chanting.

By the way, you are really wrong about Colombian and Mexican comedians: Cantinflas and Roberto Gomez Bolaños are worldwide famous Mexican comedians and a lot of Colombian Comedians have sold out Madison Square Garden several times. Certainly better than Saturday Night Live (A tv show that I still love to watch)

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

The problem isn't Mexican fans or soccer fans, but sports fans in general.

That is why I no longer follow sports.

I've been in the Nassau coliseum watching the Islanders when I lived there and you heard nonstop booing during Oh Canada! WTF????

Was in the Skydome watching the Blue Jays and the Yankees, the woman in the seat behind me (apparently she didn't catch my NY accent) made disparaging remarks about Americans, New Yorkers and New York Jews (I am all three) Only the stern glance of my girlfriend prompted me not to let loose.

North Koreans, NORTH KOREANS rioted because they lost to Iran. I was surprised they had the energy to riot, but that is another thread.

We all know about British football hooliganism which isn't restricted to Britain.

Sports fans today apparently forgot about the sportsmanship part of it, as have the players and it is pretty much thuggery.

That is why I am boycotting sports.

If you're pissed off about athletes outrageous salaries or team owners whining for stadium welfare, you can do the same thing.

It's not so bad a sports-free life.



I may be ugly. I may be an American. But don't call me an ugly American.
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6799 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

AA61Hvy- That's OK, don't let Juan get to you.

After all, it was the Colombian soccer player who got whacked after kicking the ball into his own team's goal back in 96 World Cup, wasn't it?

Those Colombians have such a wacky sense of humor.

*tongue planted firmly in cheek*


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2918 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

''Thats one hell of a joke. Next time I see Mexican Soccer players I'll be sure to chant 'illegal immigrants' or 'INS'''


they will beat the living  censored  out of you if you chant something like that at a game



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25 Post contains images AA61Hvy : Touche
26 Noise : Sucks that they chanted "Osama, Osama", but the things that go on elsewhere are worse!
27 AsstChiefMark : Isn't Mexico City due for a 9.0? If it happens, they'll be begging the US to help. How much you wanna bet they won't even remember the absolute cruelt
28 FlyMIA : Its just the problems of being from the United States. Everyone hates you. But yet they expect everything from the US government or country. US tries
29 Alberchico : I still don't understand this mentality on why 95% of the world hates us? Before the U.S. which superpower did they hate?
30 TACAA320 : It is a big deal Juan! I will never ever make jokes of drugs in Colombia [or anywhere else] nor about 9/11 attacks. They're simply of a very bad tast
31 Allstarflyer : Apples and oranges. Osama was someone who made us victims, and we didn't bring that on ourselves. If Colombia is made to be the victim of humor becau
32 JoseMEX : If it had been a game in the US and people started whistling and booing and whatever while the mexican anthem was being played, our government and med
33 Yukimizake : The '96 World Cup???
34 TACAA320 : I know it's just a supposition. But it never happened that way, so which "double standards"? What really happened, is that a bunch of nerds do exactl
35 JoseMEX : Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. What I meant to say was that if a similar thing happened in the US to our team, we would be all outraged and not
36 Theredbaron : Since I am tick skinned I always get the jokes about Mexicans and latinos on SNL, on Letterman, or Leno, and laugh out loud because most of the time t
37 Ghost77 : False! We are not mad for that. We are not as blind as some people elsewhere... but as explained above, over 3 years at Iraq of total fiasco was cert
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