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Quebec's Anti-English Education Laws To Be Eased.  
User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1802 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/31/101050331.html

Supreme Court eases English-language education rules in Quebec
Last Updated Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:45:32 EST
CBC News
OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada has opened the door to increased English-language education in Quebec.


RELATED: Supreme Court eases English-language education rules in Quebec


Francophone Quebecers protested when Bill 101 was first enacted. (file photo)

INDEPTH: Bill 101: Language Laws in Quebec
In a unanimous judgment, the court stopped short of striking down provincial legislation that restricts access to English schools. But it laid down new legal criteria that will make it easier for immigrants and native-born Canadians to gain access to English schools.


RELATED: CBC Archives Bill 101

In a separate decision, the court rejected claims from a group of francophones that they should be able to choose English schooling for their children.

The judges said members of the linguistic majority have no constitutional right to education in the minority language.

The group had been fighting for the right to have their children educated in English, which is currently prohibited by Bill 101.

But the court ruling means the Quebec government must revamp its rules for English schooling to comply with the federal Charter of Rights.

Bill 101 only allows instruction in English to children whose parents received the bulk of their education in English, in Canada.

Mance Bourassa, one of those parents who led the fight, lives in Quebec's French-speaking heartland, the town of Charette, near Shawinagan.

Before the ruling, she said, "If English-speaking parents can choose to educate their children in English," she should have "the same right."

The language of instruction clause is considered the cornerstone of Bill 101, which has also been the source of some of the most bitter debates in Quebec politics for decades.

Many had expected Quebec Premier Jean Charest to invoke the notwithstanding clause to maintain the status quo. But because the court ruling did not strike down the legislation, he won't have that option.

Quebec's Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Benoît Pelletier will respond to the court decision on Thursday afternoon.

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User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Thats good to hear.

I may not be in a position to comment (being British living in Quebec) but I often find the whole Anglophone-Francophone issue a pain in the arse.

Surely this new development can only be a good thing!?

Kieron747


User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1802 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Yeah small victory I guess. Very small victory.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 14079 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Why doesn´t ALL of Canada educate the kids bilingual (or maybe even trilingual concerning e.g. the Inuit and other native peoples)? After all both English and French are national languages and being able to speak in two languages would give the kids a headstart in today´s global economy.

Jan


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13141 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

Many immigrants (except maybe some French speak Africans, Hatians) to Quebec Prov. Canada want to learn English, knowing it is the language of the world. French, particulary Canadian French is a dying language/dialect. Maybe some Quebeckers' (?) whom are french speaking are also realizing that French doesn't do much outside of Quebec, and limiting trade, commerence, job opportunities in the international marketplace and ability to move to places within the rest of (English speaking) Canada for jobs.

User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Like so many things, this is a difficult political problem.

I have been in Quebec for 6 months now, and although I have often met Quebecois people that don't speak English, I find that most of them do to some extent (probably to the same ability as I speak French).

On the other hand, the majority of young Quebecois do speak English very well. The problem lies in that people I have met in Quebec don't choose to speak English, even though they can.

This is fair enough, if there's one thing about the Quebecois, they hold very strong opinions and feelings about retaining their French roots and language- just look at the '51% for' and '49% against' remaining a part of Canada in the latest referendum.

Many die-hard Quebecois want nothing to do with English speakers, and consider it an insult that they should be part of Canada. Many recognise the serious problems that leaving Canada would produce (social and econimic issues).

At the end of the day, like so many problems (in the UK for example), it comes down to social identity. I wouldn't say that Canadian French is a dying language, its obviously different to french (as I have found out to my pain!) however as we all know English is apparently the language of the future in the western world.

I have asked nearly every Quebecois person I have met whether they consider themselves Canadian, or Quebecois, or both. It seems, the jury is still out!

Kieron747


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1911 times:

Can you say " NOt withstanding clause"....nothing is gonna change
A

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 5):
Many die-hard Quebecois want nothing to do with English speakers, and consider it an insult that they should be part of Canada.

Those folk are free to jump on the next ship back to France... the French in this country seem to forget they LOST the war... :roll:

Ingrates.



Bad spellers of the world... UNTIE!
User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting A332 (Reply 7):
Those folk are free to jump on the next ship back to France... the French in this country seem to forget they LOST the war... :roll:

Now I didn't want to get into this issue, but I will agree with this statement. I find it very difficult to understand why, during WW 2, many Quebecois refused to join the war effort because they thought it was complying with British Canada. Guess what, they chose to be separate French Canadians... And may I ask which country (France) was needing liberation!?

Hypocrisy at its best

Kieron747


User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

PS. If there are any French Canadians on A.Net feel free to kick my ass... If you're up to the challenge!

User currently offlineYukimizake From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
French, particulary Canadian French is a dying language/dialect.

That's an unusual observation, whenever I go to Quebec (frequently) Québécois seems to be thriving.

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 5):
On the other hand, the majority of young Quebecois do speak English very well.

This may be true for Montreal, Hull and the Eastern Townships, but it's not like that in much of Quebec.



'Opfer müssen gebracht werden (Sacrifices must be made)' - Otto Lilienthal
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4994 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

"This may be true for Montreal, Hull and the Eastern Townships, but it's not like that in much of Quebec."

-Considering that almost 5 million people live in the areas above mentionned, this is almost 70% of the population  Wink


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