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Are We Done With The Pope Yet?  
User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

I may be the only person on the plannet growing tired of the constant media attention surrounding the Pope's health condition. And if I am, sorry for the post. But seriously...are we done yet? All these "tributes", and "vigils" are getting a little bit old. The man has lived a very long, and successful life. But, can we let him die in peace? I don't quite understand why we need to draw so much damn attention to his death. It will be sad to see him die, and even though I am Jewish, my thoughts are with all those who are apart of the church. But, enough is enough. Stop glorifying a death.

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4877 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

We're almost done with this Pope, but the next one is in the wings.


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

You are certainly free to turn the TV off if you are sick of hearing about it.

Harry



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

You aren't the only one. And it's not just about the Pope. The media have started to Diana-fy everything. It's annoying.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13251 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
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The media have started to Diana-fy everything. It's annoying.


You have it backwards - the over-the-top coverage the Princess of Wales' death received should only have been given to someone the likes of Pope John Paul II.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 2):
You are certainly free to turn the TV off if you are sick of hearing about it.

What a naive statement. It dominates every channel, every hour, every day. I should be able to watch Comedy Central without hearing about the Pope's impending death. (It's an example...before you start flaming me...)


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5):
It dominates every channel, every hour, every day

That is because it is a huge news event. It is not very often that a pope dies or is severely ill, and there are millions of people here and throughout the world who care about what is going on at the Vatican right now. I guess you would rather see the news go back to the Michael Jackson trial or other celebrity gossip like that.

Harry



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5):
What a naive statement. It dominates every channel, every hour, every day. I

Funny, it hasn't interrupted Battlestar Galactica on SciFi at all this evening. I concur with Newark77 - change the channel.

We'renot talking about the likes of some two-bit hood, or a leader of a some rag tag organization. This is the Pope. I'm not Catholic, but this WILL have an impact on international relations and politics.

You can always pop in a DVD and watch re-runs of Green Acres or I Love Lucy or what ever else swipes your fancy.


User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3305 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2043 times:
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Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter):
I may be the only person on the plannet growing tired of the constant media attention surrounding the Pope's health condition. And if I am, sorry for the post. But seriously...are we done yet? All these "tributes", and "vigils" are getting a little bit old. The man has lived a very long, and successful life. But, can we let him die in peace? I don't quite understand why we need to draw so much damn attention to his death. It will be sad to see him die, and even though I am Jewish, my thoughts are with all those who are apart of the church. But, enough is enough. Stop glorifying a death.

I second all of this! except... I am Episcopalian... but not much of a church-goer... havent been in a few years.



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 4):
You have it backwards - the over-the-top coverage the Princess of Wales' death received should only have been given to someone the likes of Pope John Paul II.

Well, they did Diana-fy Diana's death and funeral. Then they started doing it with others. And now they're doing it with the Pope.

They just need to stop. And let people die in peace and dignity. This circus is anything but dignified; it's vulgar.

[Edited 2005-04-02 10:14:22]

User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

You're talking about a man who has influence over one-sixth of the world's population.

That's more followers than your US President (supposedly the 'world's most powerful man'   ) could ever dream to have.

We had wall-to-wall coverage of former President Reagan's death. Unlike the Pope he wasn't even in office at the time - hadn't been for years - and even his term of service was a small fraction of the Pope's 25 years.

Pope John Paul II is a man respected by a billion people worldwide. I'm not Catholic - not religious at all - and even I respect him.

The reason we have the coverage is because this is incredibly important to a vast number of people. It's one of the few events which actually merits this sort of media focus.

May I suggest that, instead of whining about the coverage, you watch some of it and understand why this man is being given so much attention. You might learn something.

[Edited 2005-04-02 10:14:59]

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

It's going to go on for many weeks. After he dies, the cardinals have to elect a new one. I remember when Pope Paul VI died. It took forever to elect John Paul I in 1978 and the media interrupted TV shows everytime there was a vote. It took a few days. Then John Paul I decided to die after 33 days; he couldn't hack it. Then the whole damned circus started all over again.

Mark


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2000 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter):
and even though I am Jewish, my thoughts are with all those who are apart of the church

There it goes, you're not catholic so you cannot imagine what he represents for us !



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User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1978 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1993 times:
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Quoting RootsAir (Reply 12):
There it goes, you're not catholic so you cannot imagine what he represents for us !

And you were Jamaican only this morning. Now you're Costa Rican? Enough of wearing your faith on your sleeve for all of us to see. Just let the man go in peace and move on. You've got one thead for tributes, another expressing righteos indignation etc... Enough already!



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User currently offlineBartiniMan From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1973 times:

PA110 just go back a few months on this forum and try and count the number of threads about the US election. An event that only the majority of Americans really cared about, yet as soon as Bush farted there was a thread posted about it by an American. Yet you have the audacity to tell people that 2 threads regarding the Pope is enough? There are 1 billion catholics in the world, a bit more than you Americans.

User currently offlineBCNGRO From Andorra, joined Oct 2004, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 9):
They just need to stop. And let people die in peace and dignity. This circus is anything but dignified; it's vulgar.

That's it. The media is making a show of his death. I know this is a very important moment to a large number of people, but, c'mon, there's just no need for the media to jump the gun every time his condition worsens because one of his organs has failed. Everybody knows he's going to die, let's just let him do it in peace.

Now, imagine he recovered and lived some more years, he would have a good laugh at all the media waiting for him to die!

[Edited 2005-04-02 13:39:45]


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7637 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you guys about the media making this a circus (as it usually does).

But I am also thinking of the millions of believers and followers that are glued to their TV's awaiting anyword, whether it be hopeful or sad. This is the only way they can be close to their spiritual leader in his final hours.

So, I think this time, I'm giving the media praise for their continuous coverage.



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User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5825 posts, RR: 41
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

hire a dvd or a video and that'll solve the problem! our news had bits and pieces but nothing to extensive, just enough to let us know the old guy is still on his death bed, but we already knew that! all were waiting to hear now is that he's dead, i'll probably miss it while i'm watching Napoleon Dynamite on video!  Smile


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Thread starter):
I may be the only person on the plannet growing tired of the constant media attention surrounding the Pope's health condition. And if I am, sorry for the post. But seriously...are we done yet? All these "tributes", and "vigils" are getting a little bit old. The man has lived a very long, and successful life. But, can we let him die in peace? I don't quite understand why we need to draw so much damn attention to his death. It will be sad to see him die, and even though I am Jewish, my thoughts are with all those who are apart of the church. But, enough is enough. Stop glorifying a death.

And how does it affect you?

I really don't care if you're Jew, Muslim or atheist. I'm also tired of breaking news about terrorist attacks in the Middle East, but because I want peace to that important part of the world.

If you don't like it, just look for something else to do. The "tributes" and "vigils" will continue as it happened with every single Pope in the past.

[Edited 2005-04-02 15:27:47]

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 11):
Then the whole damned circus started all over again.

A circus?


User currently offlineJake056 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

what would you prefer 24 hour NEWS stations cover? The world is awash in a never-ending news cycle and it ain't ending anytime soon. They have to cover SOMETHING, so this is what it is. BREAKING NEWS.

Looks like you won't be working in media anytime soon if you can't figure that one out!!!

Last time I checked we all still had free will, so turn of the TV, the radio, the internet and do something non-electronic.


User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 4):
the over-the-top coverage the Princess of Wales' death received should only have been given to someone the likes of Pope John Paul II.

I'd rather see footage and tributes for someone who was human, caring, and actually got off their ass to get out there and help the people.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 21):
I'd rather see footage and tributes for someone who was human, caring, and actually got off their ass to get out there and help the people.

Again, you may not have respect for him, but many millions of others do. Remember, you aren't the most important person in the world.  Yeah sure

Harry



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 4):
You have it backwards - the over-the-top coverage the Princess of Wales' death received should only have been given to someone the likes of Pope John Paul II.

Bingo. Hit a home run on that one.

And if said author of this thread is tired of it, turn off the boob tube, and go do something constructive, like help the poor, or something that would compare you favorably to this man you're sick of hearing about.

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 21):
I'd rather see footage and tributes for someone who was human, caring, and actually got off their ass to get out there and help the people.

If you're saying the Holy Father didn't, then tell me what he did visiting 120 nations in his tenure? He certainly did what Christ commanded of his disciples-go out and spread the word to all men. So your criticism rings a little hollow.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

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25 AJBUS300 : Dude, how can you honestly believe that the Pope death's will go without notice? That is absurd. You have to realize who he is and what he represents
26 Cumulonimbus : I am not a Christian or Cathiolic at all, but I can respect a great man whenever I see one. EA CO AS, I would have to agree with your statement. Terr
27 787 : Considering there are over 1 billion Catholics in the world you seem to be out numbered right now at the moment. Sorry for that. Perhaps you can spend
28 Flybyguy : The reason why the media is having a field-day with the Holy Father's impending demise is the grandeur and splendor of the Church itself. I don't know
29 NWAFA : Enough of the 24/7 coverage. Yes this is an event. There are millions of people that are NOT catholic. There must be some other news. I think it is ou
30 DL021 : Why don't you guys let the 1/4 of the worlds population that were this mans flock go through their grief process? The news is going to talk about the
31 ContnlEliteCMH : Hear, hear. More than the death of a respectable man, this is a very historic event. We are talking about the leader of the largest organized religio
32 NWAFA : 1/4 of the world is also Muslim, so when the next big person in the Muslim world dies then that should be on TV also. How about the Baptist..Mormons,
33 Qantas077 : considering there are 5 billion people that aren't catholics i think your well out numbered right now, and any time in the future too! Perhaps you ca
34 NWAFA : Ahhh I see truths hurt.
35 Aa757first : There are about two million Muslims in the United States. There are five and a half million Jews. There are seventy million Catholics, or thirty-five
36 NWAFA : They still should be allowed equal coverage if there is going to be 24/7 reporting.
37 AsstChiefMark : Media circus
38 727LOVER : Don't forget PORN....yes....PORN...lots of PORN!
39 Jetjack74 : Why the hell not? Well we have another 9 days of official mourning, then the selection process begins for a vote on a new Pope. So it's probably goin
40 NWAFA : Wonder if the news will report the full 9 days and the selection process 24/7?
41 Falcon84 : I hope so, if only to bug the crap out of you, NWAFA. I really do.
42 AJBUS300 : And go down south.....ie to HELL ......for watching PORN instead of the coverage on the death of the Holy Father........j/k
43 TACAA320 : That's simply great!
44 NWAFA : So anyone that does not have the same belief as you will go to hell. The reason why many people are over the coverage on TV.
45 787 : Thankfully we will never be done with the Pope the vicar of Christ. Perhaps that is what is so enraging to some.
46 AJBUS300 : Do you know what j/k stands for??????????? JUST KIDDING...........as in a joke. I dont know who is going to hell, for all I know....I may be on the l
47 TACAA320 : So you believe in hell. I think you said that you are atheist. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
48 Caribb : I Know the news sometimes goes nuts on some issues. A 24 Hr news netwok like CNN really presumes it's audience comes in and out and doesn't stay for h
49 Post contains images Springbok747 : And go down south.....ie to HELL ......for watching PORN instead of the coverage on the death of the Holy Father........j/k AJBUS300, don't tell me yo
50 AJBUS300 : Dude, of course I have and as a matter of fact I have plenty of movies I own and ones that I rent from an online rental...I can even recommend some i
51 Post contains images Springbok747 : and I was joking also.. Ah...no worries.
52 AJBUS300 : So you aren't interested in hearing any of the favorite titles? Fine dude, whatever.......your loss!...hehe
53 Post contains images Springbok747 : So you aren't interested in hearing any of the favorite titles? Um..not now. I have a huge assignment due on Wednesday, can't watch porn..lol
54 AJBUS300 : Drop me a line when you are......I'm telling you man, I have done my research and I have the best of the best.
55 Post contains images Newark777 : Pretty funny, this thread has gone all the way from the Pope to porn. Harry
56 AJBUS300 : I know, now that you mention it.......very bad bad bad bad.....hehe.. I'm sure I will hear from the moderators, specifically Jean Loue...whatever his
57 VHXLR8 : Ah c'mon mate, there's always time for porn!!
58 JGPH1A : And today's top story. A very old sick man died today. In a couple of weeks a bunch of old guys will get together to decide who among them gets to tak
59 Newark777 : What an ignorant view, "if it doesn't effect me, it doesn't deserve to be on TV". You need to grow up and realize you aren't the most important perso
60 JGPH1A : It's not just me. It's the 4.5 billion other people on the planet who will also be profoundly unaffected by the death of the Pope. Even the 1 billion
61 Post contains images Newark777 : Again, who are you to speak what everyone should watch? Since when did we judge news on how it effected you personally? Using that logic, we shouldn'
62 Yukimizake : To the people here bitching about the extent of the coverage of the Pope's death - you are wasting valuable time. Why aren't you out there getting pet
63 JpetekYXMD80 : What does most news on CNN or whatever have to do with peoples day to day lives?
64 787 : Some people, no matter what the message is just don't get it. That's too bad when you really look at the message of John Paul II. Oh well. That's why
65 JGPH1A : You're right. I don't get it. Seriously I don't. But I don't feel I'm missing out on much, to be honest. Your religion is your own business, and I wi
66 787 : Perhaps a closed mind can someday be open? I think the Pope's message extends beyond just religion as is sated by so many that have been interviewed i
67 ZKSUJ : May he rest in Peace. A very Good man. God Bless him
68 Petazulu : Yes, a great man. It is not every day you have the passing of such an important historical figure. There is broad consesus on this fact, reagrdless of
69 TACAA320 : Apparently your time is not valuable at all. So, interferences like yours are not welcome by the Catholics, even if you say "I don't care".[Edited 20
70 B741 : IT DON'T MATTER!!! if you were a bottom-feeder, top-feeder, pan-handler or zillion-aire, you were all EQUAL in his eyes.
71 Post contains images RootsAir : So what gkirk also changes flags from time to time. now he's got the Ethiopian one! The difference is I lived in Jamaica and I put it to show a frien
72 Yukimizake : You seem to be missing the point. Apparently you don't understand sarcasm, or English, or both.
73 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : Thanks to the £$%^&! bigotry we have in some circles in Eire, there were only Pope tributes being aired on Sunday morning. The Bahrain GP ? sorry ath
74 Yukimizake : No dedicated sports channels in Ireland? BTW, Alonso won, Schumi DNF.
75 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : That's called satellite or cable and that costs money I did manage to see the race after all as I have a coworker who has cable and tapes every GP (l
76 Post contains images Erikwilliam : NOOOOOOOOOOOO now that the pope died, here in Brasil, the worlds largest catholic country, all the TV´s are showing the pope this, that, them, those
77 TACAA320 : Anybody can understand your sarcasm. And you don't have to be an English teacher for that. By the way, I bet that my English is much, pretty much bet
78 Jaysit : Why is everyone complaining? At least we're spared the endless coverage of Terri Schiavo and her crazy family, Tom DeLay and his vile banter, and Mich
79 UTA_flyinghigh : And in the meantime, we have conflicts in Darfur, people starving on every continent, increasing AIDS problem in Africa, etc... Of course, these even
80 ANCFlyer : Can we let this man rest in peace gentlemen . . . . Do you think it's time? Your points may be valid, but not in this thread . . . . Regards
81 TACAA320 : I second that!
82 Texdravid : I find the coverage good and not over the top. I find the story of his life and times uplifting. I find the story of his last days and death sad and m
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