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Reel To Reel To Make A Comeback?  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Ok maybe reel to reel will never reach the level of CD's in terms of widespread use, but it cannot be denied that it is not the dead format that purveyors of digital audio would have us believe. No matter how good of a digital system you come up, it will ALWAYS have a few Achilles Heels that analog is immune from. To name just a few:

No "An error occurred. All files lost"
No viruses
No defragmenting

Besides, analog simply sounds better. I'm convinced that out of everyone who has embraced digital recording, it's for one of the following reasons:

1. They have never heard of reel to reel.
2. They can't afford or locate quality condition equipment (it isn't cheap)
3. Digital is "modern", "new", "hip", "today". Not a throwback to a "has-been" generation.
4. They are lazy.

And perhaps, maybe 10% of digital recording "artists" actually DO like the sound. But then again, that's simply because they haven't heard real pure sound. Remember.....even most Trance/Techno compilation CD's are mixed and mastered using *ahem* analog LP's first.

And if sales activities of reel to reel machines and tapes on sites such as Ebay and Yahoo are any indication, the format is alive and well and has the potential to grow-if only a manufacturer would let it.

Well for those in the know, Quantegy (the last maker of tape) ceased ops on 12/31/04. But a new company, tentatively named ATR Magnetics is in the process of setting up shop to introduce a new full line of high quality 7" and 10" tapes, ranging from standard quarter inch to full studio 2 inch, in lengths of 1200', 1800', 2400', and, of course, 3600' for us home users.

Now rumor has it that an as-yet un named company has designed a new reel to reel machine. I'm not talking about that cheesy Retro RCA unit with the built in CD player. Nor am I talking about the Otari MX-5050 and the Tascam 34 that are nice, but sell at a whopping $4000 a pop (add $500 for a quarter track headstack). From what I've heard, it will be something similar in design to the Revox B77 or Teac X-2000. It will be 10" capable, have half or quarter track heads, and have a selling price in the $1500 range-which will make it within affordability to most analog lovers. Wouldn't this be great?

I will update news as I get it.

Oh and by the way...
can anyone guess the song that's playing on the X-2000R in this clip?



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User currently offlineAa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

They will likely stay popular for true enthuist...but not a wide spread comeback. They still bring fairly good money on ebay. Some of the higher end ones bring over $1000.00 bucks. But overall the American public is too lazy to operate a machine like a reel to reel. They want convience...So as far as a wide spread comeback...Dont think so.

PS. I miss my reel to reel. I was storing it at my parents house, my mom thought I did not want it anymore so she gave it to the good will!


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Matt D:
And if sales activities of reel to reel machines and tapes on sites such as Ebay and Yahoo are any indication, the format is alive and well and has the potential to grow-if only a manufacturer would let it.


You can say that again!
Look at how much this Moody Blues quadraphonic reel tape went for!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I would have bid on it but once it surpassed $100.00, I said forget it.


Will this brand make a 4-channel recorder?
That will get me engaged.



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

On some level, you are probably true. The Mass Market IS lazy, which is at least part of the reason cassettes, CD's, and DVD's all got as popular as they did (I'm not saying it's the ONLY reason. I'm just saying that it's a factor).

There is no question that everyone who has a deck now, or wishes they had one will buy one of these new decks if/when it comes out. As for widespread popularity, my gut instinct agrees with you.

But I have been fooled before. If the general population had relative easy access to these machines (sold at the high end sections of Good Guys, Hollytron, and Circuit City), then you never know. Not even counting the converted that would already buy them, you would have a whole new generation of people exposed to them (the under 30 crowd who, when the last consumer reel to reel deck [the Teac X-2000R] rolled off the line in 1994, were only 20 or younger couldn't afford one). And considering that things "Retro" are in right now, you might see a lot of people look at them and say "Wow! That's pretty cool", and buy one, even if just for looks.


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

Superfly, I doubt it will be a 4-track. It will most likely only be available in stereo half and quarter track. But if it takes off, then who knows....maybe sometime down the road, a 4-channel variant will be offered.

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Matt D:
Quality of music has to improve too.
Why should anyone care about the sound quality of Creed, Toby Keith, 50 Cents or Beyonce Knowles?
Since modern pop music is crap at the source, I doubt people will spend top dollar to get the best possible sound quality. Resurrecting old catalogue just isn't going to cut it.

I agree that people are lazy. Back in the 60s & 70s, 8track tape sometimes cost more. It was a lot easier to use than an LP or reel tape.



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Why should anyone care about the sound quality of Creed, Toby Keith, 50 Cents or Beyonce Knowles?
Since modern pop music is crap at the source, I doubt people will spend top dollar to get the best possible sound quality.


Well I'm afraid I have to agree with you there. But you do raise an intriguing question:

If this stuff (regardless of format) really IS of such canned, mass-market, low quality (which I think just about 99% of everything released since 1989 is), then why DOES it get as popular as it does?

In other words, if Brittney Spears is the crystallization of shameless vapid mediocrity (which I think she is), then why DO her concerts sell out time after time?

Are we just a nation of conformity whores swallowing whatever MTV and VH1 shove down our throats, or are there an awful lot of "closet" fans?


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

As long as they still feature 'The Mad Stuntman' they should be good. Their masterpiece "I like to Move it Move it' was a seminal classic.

BF



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
Are we just a nation of conformity whores swallowing whatever MTV and VH1 shove down our throats,

Yep. The masses will eat up anything that is spoonfed to them by the large recording industry.


Any chance of Metal (type IV) cassette coming back?
We you able to click on that ebay link?



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

I saw the tape. That's a bit much. As for type IV metal, I wouldn't hold my breath. You'd be better off stocking up on all that you can find now.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

By the way....you didn't recognize the song being played?

User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2191 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

I have a Pioneer Rt 909 (wanted a Teac but they were quite $$$$), the analog tape has a kind of distortion and IM D that set it appart, Symphonic music and jazz are perfect for that kind of equipment.....
Ill be buried with my tapes...hehehhe



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2061 times:

Sorry Matt D.
All I got was a big Q in a white square.  Sad
It's the man f--king with my computer.



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User currently offlineDeskPilot From Australia, joined Apr 2004, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2056 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
(which I think just about 99% of everything released since 1989 is)

Every generation has their music. Just because you don't get/like it, doen't mean it's crap.  Smile

My experience with analogue tape based recording always had "hiss". Maybe it was quality of the equipment I used. Is this something that exists on a quality Reel to Reel, Matt D ?



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2050 times:

Congratulations Matt D, you are the newest member of the Airliners.net Grumpy Old Men Club
 old   old   old   old   old 



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Reel to reel isn't coming back, and when all you old fossils kick the bucket, it will be gone forever. Face it.

User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

The A.net luddites are alive and well I see.

Reel to Reel is nice, I have messed with it some but it is a dead format, accept it. I can't recall the last time I saw a NEW reel to reel tape for sale somewhere.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Matt D: Ok maybe reel to reel will never reach the level of CD's in terms of widespread use, but it cannot be denied that it is not the dead format that purveyors of digital audio would have us believe.

Well, it´s "not dead" the way horse carriages are "not dead" due to a tiny but steadfast group of hobby enthusiasts (and, of course, the Amish people ). But that´s it.


Matt D: No matter how good of a digital system you come up, it will ALWAYS have a few Achilles Heels that analog is immune from. To name just a few:

No "An error occurred. All files lost"


Has yet to occur to me. But maybe it´s because I don´t use Windows.  crazy 
Anyway, since digital recordings can be backed up without loss, this is easily prevented. On the other hand, all my old reel-to-reel tapes have by now become unplayable and would by now only offer degraded sound quality anyway even if they hadn´t.


Matt D: No viruses

Get a Macintosh.


Matt D: No defragmenting

The low data rates required by any audio format (even by uncompressed audio) are easily supported by modern harddisks, even if massively fragmented. (MacOS transparently defragments "small" files such as MP3s in the background, by the way - see above.)


Matt D: Besides, analog simply sounds better.

Uh, no, it doesn´t. Especially when you´ve got an interest in classical music (which generally pose the biggest challenge), digital recordings were a revelation when they finally arrived. Some screwed-up digital transfers of analog-tuned original masters notwithstanding, but a lot has changed since then.

You could always find a crappy MP3 encoding played back on a crappy MP3 player which will sound inferior to an excellent recording on a high-end analog deck. But that doesn´t say anything about the comparison between the actual base technologies.


Matt D: I'm convinced that out of everyone who has embraced digital recording, it's for one of the following reasons:

1. They have never heard of reel to reel.


That´s what I´ve started with. I can live without the hiss and the hassle, even if I´ve got a soft spot for that ancient technology for purely nostalgic reasons.


Matt D: 2. They can't afford or locate quality condition equipment (it isn't cheap)

You get farther in the digital domain for the same amount of money.


Matt D: 3. Digital is "modern", "new", "hip", "today". Not a throwback to a "has-been" generation.

Don´t confuse marketing and substance. Digital is much more than just that.


Matt D: 4. They are lazy.

Convenience is not a bad thing when coupled with excellent quality. And a free mix of several thousand titles, easily filtered and re-combined at a touch of a button can be a whole new experience with all the music you love.


With analog recordings, you have progressive quality degradation through wear and chemical decay without any hope of a perfect backup. Plus the usual analog quality limitations. The world is moving on.

But if you still like to stick to reel-to-reel I don´t have the slightest problem with that; Just please don´t do it for the wrong reasons. No shame in nostalgia!  bigthumbsup 


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

Klaus my friend, are you  stirthepot  ? Big grin

Digital superiority?
Macintosh?


You losing lots of points man!



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Superfly: Klaus my friend, are you  stirthepot  ?  

Hi, Fly! Big grin
Just responding to Matt´s declaration... You can do a lot of things, but you can´t get away with claims like that!

Superfly: Digital superiority?
Macintosh?
You losing lots of points man!


Too bad... and I still like you - even though you´re an analog-worshipping, Windows-afflicted gas-guzzling-pimp-mobile-driving american!  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineLemmy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 6):
If this stuff (regardless of format) really IS of such canned, mass-market, low quality (which I think just about 99% of everything released since 1989 is), then why DOES it get as popular as it does?

Nothing new here. Every generation has its alarmists who see cultural decline as a recent development. In fact, the verifiable badness of so much of mass culture is more or less constant. There's a lot of sucky stuff out there, but when has there not been? Remember the Bay City Rollers?

One big upside to digital recording technology is its ease of access. Not so good for the thousands of small to midsize recording studios that have gone out of business, but great for the tens of thousands of musicians who, with a Mac, Pro Tools, and a few good mics can do some really cool stuff. Maybe it doesn't sound like it was recorded at Abbey Road, but who cares? Some of my favorite albums were recorded on a 4-track in somebody's basement.

I certainly won't argue with Matt D about analog sound quality, though. But if bands like the Moody Blues were the only ones who could afford top-notch recording, then I'm frankly not interested.



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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5490 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

"If I Can't Have You," by Yvonne Elliman.


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5490 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

..and somehow, Superfly, wasn't it inevitable that either you, or I, would be the one to recognize that song?


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Klaus:
Funny, very funny! Big grin
Despite being pro-digital & Apple, you're still a cool dude and great asset to Airliners.net

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 20):
But if bands like the Moody Blues were the only ones who could afford top-notch recording, then I'm frankly not interested.

YIKES!
I love the Moody Blues. One of the best rock groups ever. They are top notch musicians, songwriters and arrangers.

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 20):
Nothing new here. Every generation has its alarmists who see cultural decline as a recent development. In fact, the verifiable badness of so much of mass culture is more or less constant. There's a lot of sucky stuff out there, but when has there not been? Remember the Bay City Rollers?

I am glad you used Bay City Rollers as an example of bad 1970s band. Guess what, they are STILL more talented than acts that are passing as good rock music! Bay City Rollers may have beeen the lowest hanging fruit on the tree of 1970s rock groups but they still are better than Green Day & Creed!
Can you think of any genre that is better today than 30 years ago?
I can see if it's just one style of music that is in decline but it's across the board. Rock, R&B, jazz, country, easy listening is absolute garbage compared to 25+ years ago.

Quoting Lemmy (Reply 20):
One big upside to digital recording technology is its ease of access. Not so good for the thousands of small to midsize recording studios that have gone out of business, but great for the tens of thousands of musicians who, with a Mac, Pro Tools, and a few good mics can do some really cool stuff.

That's a problem right there. It's not supposed to be easy. A talented musician will be willing to put in the hard work of recording music and putting together a finished and well polished piece of work. Now any simpleton can buy pro-tools and fart around and call it music.
The few bands out there on the club circut still like to go to the small recording studio and use 2" reel tape machines and cut vinyl as well.
There is a certain magic that only a musician can understand when being in a studio with a huge mixing consil with several dozen VU meters, cables, reel tapes spining, back cueing, bouncing tracks and of course, waiting for the tubs of the amplifier to warm up and having to replace fuses when needed.
To some it sounds like a pain in the ass but a true musician understands that it's part of the process.



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User currently offlineLemmy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
I love the Moody Blues. One of the best rock groups ever. They are top notch musicians, songwriters and arrangers.

I shouldn't have mentioned any particular band, since that just leads to arguments over a particular group's merits, and those arguments rarely go anywhere. There's just no productive way to say Band X is better than Band Y. We both have different criteria for judging.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
I can see if it's just one style of music that is in decline but it's across the board. Rock, R&B, jazz, country, easy listening is absolute garbage compared to 25+ years ago.

I was trying to think of a way to respond to this when I realized of course we think that music was better 10 to 20 years ago. Look at our age! Popular music has always been a youth culture, and the whole point of youth culture is that it's inaccessible to adults. With few exceptions, my parents didn't like my music, and I probably won't like my kid's music. Isn't there something kind of creepy about the middle-aged guy in a club full of 18 year olds?

Trying to think of some really great music that's less than 5 years old, I was shocked that most of my favorite albums are close to 15 years old. Crap! I'm old! Why can't any modern music live up to the standards set by Black Flag and the Bad Brains? Because music has moved on, and I've gotten old and out-of-touch.

Also, I truly believe that, while the genres you mentioned (rock, country, easy listening) might be in decline, the vitality in popular music is in the types of music nowadays that didn't exist 30 years ago: rap, techno, indie rock, black metal, hardcore, etc. Creed sucks because they're rehashing old rock cliches. Green Day sucks because they've been playing the same song since 1988. Some forms are just tired and worn out, but there are lots that aren't, and they're not the ones being played on MTV.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
That's a problem right there. It's not supposed to be easy. A talented musician will be willing to put in the hard work of recording music and putting together a finished and well polished piece of work.

I agree with you 100%. Absolutely true. But do you really need a multi-milion dollar studio that costs $500/hour, complete with a middle-aged guy in a Skynrd t-shirt to make your guitars sound "punchy but warm"? I'd argue that, while you're right that home-recording technology leads to a sea of crappy recordings (this is the real mark of the internet age ... but we manage nonetheless), there are also legions of talented musicians who spend their lives hammering out music in their bedrooms. What's more, these folks don't have to rush their recordings just because they don't have a major label paying for two weeks of studio time.

On the other side of the analog/digial argument, legendary punk-rock musician and producer Steve Albini is a rabid proponent of analog. His own band, Shellac, records analog and still presses LPs and, yes, they sound amazing. There's an interesting video of a talk he gives arguing for analog at http://www.mtsu.edu/~nadam/downloads/Stevealbiniweb.html



I am a patient boy ...
25 Post contains images Superfly : Lemmy: Well I am 31 years old (same as Matt D) and we like music our parents listen to. Hell I even like some music from my grandparent’s generation
26 Post contains images Klaus : Lemmy: On the other side of the analog/digial argument, legendary punk-rock musician and producer Steve Albini is a rabid proponent of analog. That fi
27 Post contains images Superfly : Lemmy: Also worth noting, many older artist did embrace newer styles of pop music in the past. Frank Sinatra wanted the rock group Chicago to compose
28 Post contains images Superfly : And also there were many tribute albums to the Beatles, Cledence Clearwater Revival, The Doors, Rolling Stones and Cream by older artist such as Burt
29 Post contains images PMN : Great. A thread where I can have a rant! Her concerts sell out because there are millions of people out there who like what she does. It may be utter
30 Post contains images Superfly : PMN: Great post! Do you use a Ampeg, VOX,...... ? I need a bass amp. I own a Rickenbacker 4001 bas but I no longer have an amp. I used to own a Peavy
31 Post contains images PMN : Cheers Superfly  Have to agree Ampeg are great! I don't really get on with the Ricky's although one of the nicest bass necks I've ever played was on
32 Post contains images Klaus : PMN: The technical limitations of analogue recording and playback don't necessarily mean your ear will hear them as sounding inferior to digital. The
33 Post contains images Superfly : PMN: That is one sweet rig you have! Fender Jazz 5 string? Those go very deep and have a beautiful warm sound. Klaus: Are you just saying this to feel
34 Post contains images PMN : Like I said, don't NECESSARILY mean! So a bit of phase shift, EQ and a few random crackles re-creates the sound of analogue? I have to say I'm somewh
35 Post contains links and images PMN : Thanks Superfly. Yeah Jazz Basses are one of my favourites. Mine started life as a fretted, but a friend de-fretted it for me (and did a great job). L
36 Post contains images Superfly : I have a few others but there on 35mm slides.
37 Post contains images Klaus : Superfly: Are you just saying this to feel like you have a connection with today's youth? Why would I want that? Young people have their own world and
38 CaptOveur : Wow, you really are stuck in the 70s... You don't by any chance post on A.net from an IBM 360 or something? Do you? Note: I am not knocking slides, b
39 Post contains images PMN : I'm sure the way it's approached is different. I'm not a studio engineer, I'm a live engineer. The approach of live engineers tends to be very differ
40 Post contains images Klaus : PMN: I'm sure the way it's approached is different. I'm not a studio engineer, I'm a live engineer. The approach of live engineers tends to be very di
41 Post contains images Superfly : CaptOveur: I do have a digital camera as well as a standard 35mm camera and tons of prints. I had bought some slide film just for the heck of it becau
42 PMN : You just summed up in one short sentence exactly what I have been trying to say. Couldn't agree more.
43 Post contains images Superfly : PMN: I'd like to have Klaus over so he can get a a true audio experience. You haven't heard fine audio until you've heard Quadraphonic reel to reel.
44 PMN : That's something I'd love to hear. My greatest audio experience so far has been listening to music on my boss's Quad ESL 63 electrostatics powered by
45 Superfly : PMN: Another great audio experience I've heard was a demo at an audio store. I heard the Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs Original Half-Speed pressing of Pi
46 Post contains images Klaus : Superfly: Another great audio experience I've heard was a demo at an audio store. I heard the Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs Original Half-Speed pressing
47 Post contains links NoUFO : Give Glockenklang ( http://www.glockenklang.de/en/products.htm ) a try!![Edited 2005-04-08 16:59:13][Edited 2005-04-08 16:59:48]
48 Superfly : Klaus: What on earth are you talking about? Are you talking about the sound effects? That's because the first compact disc issues were awful. Today's
49 Post contains images PMN : Klaus, I have a lot of respect for your knowledge of this subject. There's no doubt, on the technological side of things you know your stuff, although
50 Post contains images Klaus : PMN: I appreciate you're approaching this from the point of view of what is TECHNICALLY correct and superior, but you can not argue with people's ears
51 Post contains images PMN : I said I prefer the analogue sound, I never mentioned anything about analogue providing higher fidelity How is preferring analogue sound limiting you
52 Post contains images Klaus : PMN: I said I prefer the analogue sound, I never mentioned anything about analogue providing higher fidelity No, you didn´t. PMN: How is preferring a
53 Post contains images PMN : Klaus, ultimately my opinion is different to yours, and whatever you may think about how the technology producing the sounds we listen to is changing,
54 Post contains images Klaus : I think we should both be able to live with the consensus that personal preferences are a valid reason to go either way for oneself, don´t you think?
55 Post contains images PMN : Absolutely
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